[DML] Re: Jack Stands Versus Ramps

["content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I totally agree with David's advocacy of jack stands. They are a
tremendously stable platform under which to work. I have absolutely no
fear of beating and prying on a car so supported. Have done so for years.

One point David forgot to mention: Jack stands and a floor jack will
fit under the hood of your car. I usually travel with a 3 ton floor
jack and pair of jack stands under my mine. Have saved my backside
more times than I can count. For example, on the way home from SEDOC
last year, a coolant hose (I have hose sections running to the frame
pipes rather than pipe sections) tipped forward and the drive axle
rubbed a pinhole leak in it. I had the car in the air and the problem
diagnosed in less than 10 minutes. Louie Golden was kind enough to
give me a ride to the parts house, and I was back on the road shortly
thereafter. Was as easy as repairing it in my own driveway.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty@xxxx> wrote:
> I do not like ramps. For the most part they are made very cheaply.
> Even on a hard level surface many are so weak that you could push the
> car sidways and the ramps would just fall over. In many cases you
> would hit the underbody of the car if you where to try to drive up
> onto them. If you have to jack the car up anyway jackstands are MUCH 
> safer. Jackstands take up less room and allow you to remove the
> wheels, you can't do that with ramps. Most of the time when you need
> to get a car up off the ground you have to remove the wheels anyway.
> You can get a car a lot higher with jackstands than a ramp and for a
> Delorean it makes it nicer to work under if you can get it higher. I
> would never go under a car with a creeper that is on ramps. For some
> jobs like trans and clutch ramps are just too low. You can get a good
> set of 2 jackstands around 2-3 tons for $25 per pair. You can easily
> spend more than $50 dollars for 1 set of ramps. Of course you will
> have to spend for a floor jack but it is one of the more useful tools
> you can have for a car. NEVER EVEN THINK OF USING CINDER BLOCKS TO
> SUPPORT A CAR!!!!!! They can crumble without warning. Same goes for
> wire milk crates, plastic boxes and all the other things you can
> imagine. If you are doing work on the car for enjoyment and/or to save
> money it is worth your life to spend a little of your savings on some
> quality tools.
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757
> 
> 
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, tobyp@xxxx wrote:
> > Adam - Having the car on ramps is absolutely okay in terms of 
> > torqueing up the TAB's.  The only condition that is really "sub-




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