I too have my doubts about these guys. I have a good relationship with a laser cutting company, and wanted to get myself a new muffler heatshield. I knew about the "special" one they do made from (quote): All are made from an unusual alloy of stainless steel that was developed for use in high-tech industries including aviation and satellites. Similar in appearance and durability to common SS 304 like what DeLorean body panels are made, industry recognizes our heat shield alloy as V4A. Applications for this material are so unusual that there are only two manufactures on the planet that produce it. Well, I started looking for this stuff, and talked to my laser cutting place. They'd never heard of it (not surprising, I thought given how unusual it apparently is). So I did a search on Google for "V4A stainless" - I invite anyone to do the same. The result is that it appears to be just another name for 316 stainless, which is as common as 304 (harder and more brittle, I believe - cutlery is commonly made from it). I e-mailed them this query and never received a reply. I would really like to be proved wrong on this, but it looks a bit suspect to me. Martin PS Got my heatshied from DMCH in the end - a nice modern shield made in proper material for a reasonable price. Jack Singer wrote: >I ordered and paid to this company but never received the merchandise. >Then I had to fight to get my money back. > >Jack. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/