What's really wierd is that over here in Europe, there are "R12 drop-in replacements" like RS24, and R413 which are ozone-fiendly and designed to mix with R12, if still present in a system. R12 usage is so illegal that it carries a £3000 fine if you're found out. I believe the drop-ins are illegal in the US Martin James Espey wrote: >Not sure about back east where Harold lives (and California where everything >seems to be deemed environmentally unsafe), but here in Texas, R12 prices >have been stedily dropping back to early 1990 levels. The word that I have >received from our supplier is that as all the new cars are now running R134, >and so many people were frightened into, or otherwise convinced that they >needed to convert to R134, demand for R12 has dropped so much that prices >are now considered "normal" again. Of course, if you have a leak in your >system, it is against the law to refill it with R12. However, at least here >in Texas (and when I was in AZ) a properly functioning R12 system in a >DeLorean will outperform a DeLorean converted to run on R134. > >James > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/