Hold the door open with a strip of wood -2X4 or whatever you have as long as it can take the weight. I used a large hex key with a pipe over it for leverage to turn end of the bar-be VERY careful as if the key slips under the tension it is possible to break the rear window-This happened to me and I was lucky enough that it only took a small chip out of my window- from then on I use a piece of wood on the lip of the window to prevent any risk of damage. Dan Benedek #5003 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/