dmcnews-digest Friday, May 1 1998 Volume 03 : Number 359
In this issue:
Re: DML: DeLorean Shine
Re: DML: Re: Key for DeLorean and won't start
Re: DML: Lee's D gets no fuel (was: Good Battery!)
DML: Anyone want 3 Acres in VA?
Re: DML: Re: Problem with conversion
Re: DML: Re: Key for DeLorean
Re: DML: Good Battery!
DML: Parts Inventory.
DML: [admin] New 'zine posted
Re: DML: Re: Key for DeLorean and won't start
Re: DML: Re: Problem with conversion
DML: Fuel Pump not working
DML: Problem with conversion
DML: 'zine 2
Re: DML: Problem with conversion
Re: DML: 'zine 2
DML: Cross Drilled Rotors
DML: Autospecialty
Re: DML: Exhaust Manifold Gasket
Re: DML: Re: Key for DeLorean and won't start
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:23:40 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: DeLorean Shine
At 10:01 AM 4/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
>lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>>
>> Use very hard past wax applied in small "with the grain" patched from one
>> end of the panel to the other, followed by a very high luster car wax like
>> turtle. Do not use a circular buffing machine at any stage. You can getthe
>> stainless to shine enough to make people squint if the sun angle is just
>> right.
>>
>> Lee Seiler
>> 81DMC-12
>
>
>Lee, How do you get the paste wax out of the grain? I once tried using
>a wax like product and could not polish the residue out of the grain, I
>had to use solvent and buff the panels with the course "scotch brite" to
>remove the wax residue.
>
>Thanks
>Scott Mueller
reply:
Hi Scott,
I had the same problem when I started trying various waxes. First you
have
to have the stainless oil and grease free, dry bear super clean, and you
need to have worked the burnishing patterns so that the fine thin
scratches
in the surface of the stainless are as straight as possible.
You need to find a "very hard" Carnauba Paste wax for the base coat. (I
use "Eagle-1-One") When you apply this "under coat" of hard wax you must
use a very damp sponge or terry-cloth rag. When you apply the paste wax
use
as little as possible on the applicator, apply (for example) as follows.
Stand in front of the D, place the damp terry-cloth rag with very small
amount of paste wax on the hood at the front and push back until you get
to
the windshield in a single stroke, then pull back along the same path, the
stainless will take on a slight "blue" tint, repeat this same application
method a second time but move over the width of your application song or
rag. Now with a clean Terry-cloth (ruff side) buff out the wax you just
applied. Do not let the paste wax dry or form a haze. This is how you
prevent residue build up. Under no circumstances glob on the wax or apply
or polish in circular motion. Like polishing leather, you have to remove
most of what you put on. So to avoid the build up, you use as little hard
wax as possible and always rub with the grain.
The hard wax will polish to a very nice shine, but you can get even more
by next using a soft wax like Turtle plus. This is applied in the same way
using the same method, but when you are finished you can use a very soft
cloth like an old t-shirt to buff up the shine using circular motion, just
as long as you finish up by going with the grain.
So far I have found that even the heaviest down pour of rain leave beaded
water droplets that a wipe off with a towel will take care of, with out
any
water staining. You will still see finger marks, but just a quick rubbadub
dubb removes them, with no polish, or any cleaner.
I will admit that the wax approach takes all day and lots of elbow
grease.
Lee Seiler
81DMC-12
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:08:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Josh Price <pricej@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Key for DeLorean and won't start
> Michael Salzwedel said:
>
> > . . . With the car came only 1 key. On the key is written: National
> > key COLE Cleveland Ohio VL5. I wanted to make a replica of this
> > key but no dealer in Germany can help me.
> I thought someone once said that a certain Volvo key blank could be
> made into a DeLorean key. That information should be in the DML back
> issues. The regular DeLorean parts suppliers should also be able to help
> you.
>
> - Mike Substelny
>
I went to my local small-town locksmith and he made me keys from a volvo
blank, no problemo. If you want to know the exact reference number, email
me direct.
I have sort of the same problem that I have been reading about lately on
the DML. I just bought my D and have had quite the experience attempting
to get it operational. It used to idle but then die when the acclerator
was pressed, like somebody else wrote about. So I changed the plugs,
distributor, and injectors. Now the car won't even start, like another
wrote about. I checked all of the fuses and connections to the computer.
Gas is not making it to the distributor. The fuel pump won't work even
when voltage is applied directly from the battery. The fuel pump, lines,
filter, and tank are all new. What should I look at next? Does anybody
have the part number for the DMC do-it-yourself exorcism kit?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Josh Price
VIN#10242
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:24:32 -0700
From: cliff wallace <wlsms@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Lee's D gets no fuel (was: Good Battery!)
Mike Substelny wrote:
>
> Lee Seiler said:
>
> > My D has a brand new fuel pump from PJ Grady which runs like a
> > champ, but no power appears at the connector that the pump hooks
> > into? A bit of gas in the air intake would get a rumble out of the
> > engine but even never enough to get a solid start. [snip]
>
> > Looks like I have Bosh-K Jetronic home work to do! suggestions are
> > welcome.....I know a little about fuel accumulator and cold start
> > switches, I have the manuals to read.
Check under your left front fender. There is a bundle of wire that runs
to the fuel pump. Check to see if the insulation has cracked. If so,
you may have a loose or no connection.
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:52:44 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Anyone want 3 Acres in VA?
FYI.... Found on Dejanews:
> Subject: 3 Acres in Va for trade
> From: Liam Carty <jordancarty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 1998/04/28
> Message-ID: <6i54r5$qm1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Newsgroups: alt.barter
>
> I have 3 wooded acres on a 4 lane highway 45 miles from Bristol,VA that
> I will trade for any of the following:nice older cabin cruiser, 1-hour
> minilab,a really swank replicar or Delorean,Corvette,Jaguar,or Saab
> convertible,houseboat,or barge.
> Liam Carty
I guess property on the highway in VA is pretty cheap! Here in NJ 3
acres on a 4 lane highway would go for more than a DeLorean!
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:35:41 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Problem with conversion
At 04:39 PM 4/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> From: Ronald Pohala <rpohala@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: DML: Problem with conversion
>> Date: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 8:28 AM
>>
>> I had purchased a Volvo engine for my Delorean and have trouble with the
>> matching of the bell housing and oil pan. Can anyone offer advice as to
>> whether they are adaptor kits.
>>
>> I will be surveying the problem tomorrow it is at the shop and I can't
>> get there today Thanks Ron
>
>The DeLorean engine is not a Volvo engine exactly. The crankcase and oil
>pan are from the Renault Alpine and the Renault transaxle used in the
>DeLorean was never used in the Volvo so the bell housing won't fit. Even
>though the DeLorean oil pan might or might not fit the Volvo engine, I
>don't think the motor mount lugs from the Alpine crank case are cast in
>the
>same position on the crankcase as the Volvo lugs. In short I rather doubt
>the two are compatible.
>
>Bruce Benson
>
reply:
You are right Bruce, but...>wink
You can have the Volvo Aluminium oil pan cut and arc welded to fit the
frame. You would have to add two motor mounts and make an adaptor ring for
the alpine Trans......I don't see the advantage though, if I were going to
do an engine job I think I would look for mill with the highest BHP/lbs
ratio I could find that matched the total all up weight of the existing D
PWR engine.souping up the existing PV6 would be a better bet in my view.
In spite of a won't start problem I have at the moment, I must say that
so
far when it comes to curvy hill climbing and country roads, my D is the
equal to any 911 or vett, I can either take them or hug their tail pipe
with ease, about the only place I see any huge BHP advantage would be at
standing start deals, even some commute cars leave me standing until we
hit about 45, then the D's long gears really show their stuff.
Can any one tell me on a horse power basis what the need for doubling the
BHP does for the D?
Lee Seiler
81DMC-12
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 23:24:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: thomas reed <reedted@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Key for DeLorean
>
> Michael Salzwedel said:
>
> > . . . With the car came only 1 key. On the key is written: National
> > key COLE Cleveland Ohio VL5. I wanted to make a replica of this
> > key but no dealer in Germany can help me.
>
>
> I thought someone once said that a certain Volvo key blank could be
> made into a DeLorean key. That information should be in the DML back
> issues. The regular DeLorean parts suppliers should also be able to help
> you.
>
> - Mike Substelny
>
When I bought my D, it came with two keys- one door, one ignition. They
are
the factory originals, with the molded plastic top and place for a small
flashlight built in. I thought they were too large to carry day to day,
so I
found a locksmith who was able to me me a pair of dupes. The ignition
blank
is a Taylor X29 (intended for Volvo), and the door blank is an Ilco WB3
X169
(intended for I don't know what). Both of these are just ordinary blanks
that
the locksmith had laying around, but they were not listed in any manual-
he had
to compare my originals to his wall of blanks and pick out what looked
right.
Hope this helps....
Ed Reed
VIN 3117
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 07:58:57 EDT
From: DMCIMF <DMCIMF@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Good Battery!
Lee S.
I am having the same problem with my D.car #6905.
It will crank, but no spark to the plugs.
Let me know what you find out with yours.
Thanks
Bill Glover
DMCIMF
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:13:18 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Parts Inventory.
I recently called Straub Motors, in Keyport NJ to ask about their DMC
parts inventory.
I spoke with the parts manager, Bob Defransisco (732-264-4000).
TO be honest, he was not all that friendy, and seemed uninterested in
being bothered, but I was able to get a list of what he had in stock.
He is asking $12,000.00 for the entire inventory.
I have typed the inventory in, and gotten current prices from the
DMCHOUSTON web site (Awsome site at http://www.usadmc.com/).
The retail value of the the entire inventory is worth a little less than
12K based on the prices from DMCHOUSTON. With that, I dont think they
are all that serious about selling. I am guessing they already got
their tax deduction on the loss, and realy dont care.
Either way, I put the inventory up at
http://remus.rutgers.edu/~mxl/dmc/straubdmc.pdf so you can check it out
and see if you are interested. There does not seem to be any rare stuff
on the inventory, and I have already questioned them about other DMC
stuff, such as tools, signs, neckties, brochures, pamphlets.... All
gone. (This is what I really wanted anyway!)
Let me know if anyone does anything with it.
Marc
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 98 07:05:20 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: [admin] New 'zine posted
I have not had time to update the web pages to reflect the new 'zine
being available, but it can be downloaded at:
As always, you'll need an Adobe Acrobat Reader to view/print this file.
The Acrobat Reader is free from www.adobe.com and is available for Mac,
Windows, Unix, etc.
Thanks!
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com/
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:31:18 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Key for DeLorean and won't start
Josh Price wrote:
I checked all of the fuses and connections to the computer.
> Gas is not making it to the distributor. The fuel pump won't work even
> when voltage is applied directly from the battery. The fuel pump, lines,
> filter, and tank are all new. What should I look at next?
>
> Josh Price
> VIN#10242
Josh, My new fuel pump quit working on time. It would not run even when
I used my battery charger to power it directly.
I then switched the charger to the Start Mode, lots of amps available,
that did the trick. The pump must of had something in it causing a
jam. It has worked ever since (1+ years).
Hook a volt meter to the fuel pump leads and make sure you get power to
the pump. If there is no power, check the Inertia switch. You can jump
the switch temporarly.
Good luck, some of these problems defy the logic of mere mortals like
us.
Note:
Do you know why the British drink warm beer?
Because Lucas makes refrigerators.
Scott Mueller
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:38:38 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Problem with conversion
lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Can any one tell me on a horse power basis what the need for
doubling the
> BHP does for the D?
>
> Lee Seiler
> 81DMC-12
If you double the BHP, and use it, you probably will tear up the drive
train, maybe even spin the tires. I read that the max HP the 5 speed
can handle is 200BHP. Myself, I think that the car accelerates
adequately. I know that if it had any more power I probably would have
killed myself with this car a long time ago.
Just my $0.02
Scott Mueller
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 11:00:12 -0500
From: Jordan Gary <jordang@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Fuel Pump not working
If the fuel pump will not work when you apply 12 volts directly to the
pump
leads, then you have a bad pump. It takes 1-2 amps to run. The white is
the
positive, if I remember right. But the pump has the positive and negative
terminals marked. If it does not run, or if it does not pump 3/4 gallion
in a
minute, then it is bad. Jordan Gary vin. 0794
Josh Price wrote:
> >
> >
> I have sort of the same problem that I have been reading about lately on
> the DML. I just bought my D and have had quite the experience attempting
> The fuel pump won't work even
> when voltage is applied directly from the battery. The fuel pump, lines,
> filter, and tank are all new. What should I look at next? Does anybody
> have the part number for the DMC do-it-yourself exorcism kit?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Josh Price
> VIN#10242
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:03:54 -0400
From: "Ronald Pohala" <rpohala@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Problem with conversion
I surely appreciate the input with the problem, perhaps I can have the
company rebuild my engine if they will and just wait. With the altering
needed it might be faster than the needed changes. I will let you know
what
happens and appreciate anyones comments. Kind of discouraging after
spending the bucks. Will see if I can get a refund.
Keep any info at all coming.
Discouraged but love my Delorean and will get it road hopping again.
Ron
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 12:46:00 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: 'zine 2
Well James,
You did it again. Good job on the 'zine. I'm looking forward to the
next issue. Where do you get the energy to put together the 'zine and
mailing list?
Keep up the good work.
Scott
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:44:18 -0500
From: Jordan Gary <jordang@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Problem with conversion
If I had a known very good volvo engine I would take the pan and other
things off my DMC engine and put them on the Volvo engine to make it work.
However, for about another week of waiting on the machine shop you could
have a like new rebuilt engine. If you needed any parts to fix the DMC
engine, then you should be able to take them off the volvo engine. I have
found the machine show bill for rebuilding to be as low as $500 and as
much as $1500, plus the shop labor for the mechanic. However you, you
mechanic, and the machine shop can divide up the labor or removing,
dismantling and assembly, any number of ways. Mechanics often charge
$600-
$1200 to replace the engine and send it off to the machine shop. A
completely rebuilt engine that rebuilds both the bottom and the top of the
engine can vary widely in price. I hope this helps some.
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 98 12:31:28 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: 'zine 2
On 4/29/98 10:46 AM, Scott Mueller shared these unsolicited thoughts...
>You did it again. Good job on the 'zine. I'm looking forward to the
>next issue. Where do you get the energy to put together the 'zine and
>mailing list?
The 'zine is a lot of fun, but a lot of work, too. I hope to stay on a
slightly more regular schedule, but with the growth of the list and other
demands, that may not be possible.
Zine #2 is at:
Zine #1 is at:
Thoughts, comments, articles - all welcomed!
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com/
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Date: 29 Apr 1998 15:23:59 -0500
From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10)" <Nick.Kemp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Cross Drilled Rotors
A while back, someone indicated that a company called Specialty
Automotive
offered cross drilled rotors for the Delorean. I called the number that
1-800-555-1212 provided but they were not the correct company. To that
end:
1) What is the number for that company?
2) If you have tried them, what feedback can you provide (cost,
performance,
problems, the usual)?
Thanks,
Nick Kemp
#897
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Date: 29 Apr 1998 16:20:23 -0500
From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10)" <Nick.Kemp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Autospecialty
I may be answering some of my last listed question in that the correct
spelling is Autospecialty, the supplier of cross drilled rotors. But I
have
not been able to get a telephone number.
NK
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:34:25 -0700
From: Dan <DBerglund@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Exhaust Manifold Gasket
> >I've looked in the archieves and have not found any information about
> >Exhaust
> >Manifold removal and gasket replacement. I understand this is a major
> >task and
> >was looking for some insight from other owners who have attempted this
> >task.
> >
> >Dave
> >vin 2573
> >
> reply:
I may have just lucked out but It only took me abaout 15min. per
side. I
didn't soak any of the nuts. I just used a wrench and unscrewed 'em.
Looking
back on this I was pretty lucky that I didn't break off one of the
studs...
Dan Berglund
'81 #6623
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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:54:00 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Key for DeLorean and won't start
At 07:08 PM 4/28/98 -0700, you wrote:
>> Michael Salzwedel said:
>>
>> > . . . With the car came only 1 key. On the key is written: National
>> > key COLE Cleveland Ohio VL5. I wanted to make a replica of this
>> > key but no dealer in Germany can help me.
>
>> I thought someone once said that a certain Volvo key blank could be
>> made into a DeLorean key. That information should be in the DML back
>> issues. The regular DeLorean parts suppliers should also be able to help
>> you.
>>
>> - Mike Substelny
>>
>I went to my local small-town locksmith and he made me keys from a volvo
>blank, no problemo. If you want to know the exact reference number, email
>me direct.
>
>I have sort of the same problem that I have been reading about lately on
>the DML. I just bought my D and have had quite the experience attempting
>to get it operational. It used to idle but then die when the acclerator
>was pressed, like somebody else wrote about. So I changed the plugs,
>distributor, and injectors. Now the car won't even start, like another
>wrote about. I checked all of the fuses and connections to the computer.
>Gas is not making it to the distributor. The fuel pump won't work even
>when voltage is applied directly from the battery. The fuel pump, lines,
>filter, and tank are all new. What should I look at next? Does anybody
>have the part number for the DMC do-it-yourself exorcism kit?
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>
>Josh Price
>VIN#10242
>
reply:
Hi Josh,
If you have a new fuel pump, it should run if both terminals are hooked
up
to your battery, if you are just using one hot wire from the battery, you
won't get the fuel pump for several reasons, check back threw the advise
to
me, and do what we did. We started with the fuel pump pick up, then the
pickup hose, power, filter, inertia switch (we think this is the
problem).
If you want DMC logo tops on your keys send them to me and I will do them
ASAP.
Lee Seiler
81DMC-12
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:10:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [none]
> From: Daniel Findlay <Daniel.Findlay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'dmcnews'" <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:53:00 +1000
>
>
> People,
>
> I love the delorean time machine and was wanting to get some information
> such as how many of them are out there, who owns them, and how much they
> cost. All owners or lovers of the time machine please drop me a line.
>
> email- daniel.findlay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:34:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [none]
> From: "James DeBroeck" <y089@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: the -zillas
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:53:04 -0500
>
> I'm a rather recent subscriber to the list and soon to be DMC owner.
> Right
> now I'm using the list to do research on all the stuff that will
> probably
> have to be done to the car once I buy it. But lately, one thing has
> been
> bothering me. What are all these zilla things I hear about (i.e.
> Tankzilla,
> Lockzilla, Fanzilla). Is there any place I can go to look at them or
> see
> how much they cost?
>
> Thanks
> James DeBroeck
> soon to be owner
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:41:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [none]
> Subject: [admin] Guest Moderator...
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 98 07:30:03 -0700
> From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Longtime DML'er Knut Grimsrud has once again assumed the responsibilities
> as Guest Moderator while I take a few days off. I will be back in the hot
> seat again on Monday.
>
> James Espey
> Vacationing Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
> http://www.dmcnews.com/
>
>
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:51:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [none]
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:49:54 -0400 (EDT)
> From: J <sundiver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Repair shop near Newtown PA
>
>
> Hi.
>
> Does anyone have a recomendation for a good repair shop near Newtown PA
> (near Philadelphia and Trenton). I've got a leaking exhaust manifold, and
> since I don't have an engine hoist (or a garage for that matter), I'd
> rather not try to fix this myself. I can just see breaking off a stud and
> then not being able to get a drill on it without removing the engine.
>
> - J
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:57:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [none]
> From: "Richard Strecker" <dmc1219@xxxxxxx>
> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: "Zillas"
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:53:08 -0400
>
>
> You can find out about all the "Zillas" at the Cincinnati Show site
> http://idt.net/~dmc1219 Check the links page to P.J. Grady
>
> Richard
>
> See you in Cincinnati!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "James DeBroeck" <y089@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: the -zillas
> > > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:53:04 -0500
> > >
> > > I'm a rather recent subscriber to the list and soon to be DMC
> owner.
> But lately, one thing has
> > > been
> > > bothering me. What are all these zilla things I hear about (i.e.
> > > Tankzilla,
> > > Lockzilla, Fanzilla). Is there any place I can go to look at them
> or
> > > see
> > > how much they cost?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > James DeBroeck
> > > soon to be owner
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:40:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [none]
> From: "Jameel Ahed" <ahed@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: I need a hood and T top!
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:22:15 -0500
>
> Dear DML,
> I am looking for a completely straight (NO DENTS OR DINGS!!!) Hood
> with
> the lines and a fuel flap.
> Also I am looking for a straight T-Top. Please give me a call or
> write
> me directly on this matter. (217) 337-7609
> Jameel
>
> Jameel Ahed CEO of CyberTECH Industries
> Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions
> HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/
> VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com
> EMAIL: mailto:ahed@xxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:11:32 -0400 (EDT)
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> From: raddad@xxxxxxx
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:25:28 -0700
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: hood wanted
>
> Jameel
>
> You can have lines or you can have a hood gas flap, but you can't have
> both!
>
> Dick
> ----------------------------
> >> From: "Jameel Ahed" <ahed@xxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: I need a hood and T top!
> >> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:22:15 -0500
> >>
> >> Dear DML,
> >> I am looking for a completely straight (NO DENTS OR DINGS!!!)
> Hood
> >> with
> >> the lines and a fuel flap.
> >> Also I am looking for a straight T-Top. Please give me a call
> or
> >> write
> >> me directly on this matter. (217) 337-7609
> >> Jameel
> >>
> >> Jameel Ahed CEO of CyberTECH Industries
> >> Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions
> >> HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/
> >> VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com
> >> EMAIL: mailto:ahed@xxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:38:51 -0400 (EDT)
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> From: "greg nickel" <dmc82@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: parts
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 14:50:42 PDT
>
> CHECK DELOREAN MOTOR CENTER IN GARDEN GROVE CAL
> 13881 WEST STEET PHONE NO IS 7145540794 TELL THEM ADAM SENT YOU
> THEY DO HAVE SOME PARTS GREAT SERVICE
>
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 19:33:07 -0400 (EDT)
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> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:22:55 -0600
> From: "Aaron Barrus" <ASBARRUS@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: hood lines and gas flap
>
> Dick - I don't think that's true. The first deloreans hoods were stamped
> =
> with both the lines and the gas flap. Just to be sure, I checked DOA's =
> web page, they've got a nice little description of the various hoods found
> =
> on deloreans at http://www.delorean-owners.org/legend/diff.html
>
> Aaron
>
> > From: raddad@xxxxxxx=20
> > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:25:28 -0700
> > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > Subject: Re: hood wanted
> >=20
> > Jameel
> >=20
> > You can have lines or you can have a hood gas flap, but you can't have
> > both!
> >=20
> > Dick
>
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Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 09:59:13 -0400 (EDT)
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> From: "Dave Price" <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "DML" <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Custom side markers/Door lamps
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:32:52 -0700
>
> Howdy.. I just went down to my local custom plastics shop and checked
> out how much it would be to have them cut the door-light covers in a
> different color (I was going to get blue, but they had an array).
> They
> quoted me about $60 for 6 (there are only 6, right?) which I guess
> sounds pretty reasonable for such a small quantity. Anyway, I wanted
> to ask if anyone else was interested in changing the color of their
> door lights, as they may offer a quantity discount.
>
> Also- I wanted to get smoked side-markers, and that seemed to be
> a little more work than this place would do (at least for something
> reasonably priced) so I wanted to see if anyone knew if the side
> marker plastic was "barrowed" from another car? They look similar
> to some BMW side markers, and they make those in smoked,
> but they could be radically different for all I know...
>
> Thanks!
> Dave
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> From: "Dave Price" <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "DML" <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: delorean hood emblem..
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:49:37 -0700
>
> I have a hood with the "De Lorean" lettering on it... Does
> anyone know how the emblem is attatched? Is it just
> adhesive, or are there holes in the hood under it?
>
> Thanks!!
> Dave
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> From: Gullwing D <GullwingD@xxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 19:36:48 EDT
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: DeLorean time machine
>
> Hi, I know that 5 to 6 time machine DeLoreans were built for the
> film. All
> in which are stainless steel, but have different interior colors. I
> know a
> man who can build the perfect time machine replica on a DeLorean, but
> it will
> cost you almost about $80,000. i also sell the models and build and
> paint
> them. If you are interested e-mail me at GullwingD@xxxxxxx
>
>
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> From: AARON1@xxxxxxxxx (AARON MILLS)
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 20:05:38 -0400
> To: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: door locks
>
> After owning my D for 3 years I finally decided to get the auto door
> locks working. I bought the lockzilla from P.J. Grady and new lock
> solenoids, also I installed a keyless entry unit ( I installed the same
> unit in my Lebaron). Now for my problem, when the car is running or
> even if the key is in the run position the locks and keyless work
> wonderful. However when the key is off the auto locks and keyless don't
> work. I checked for power at the module (purple) and solenoid supply
> (red/pink)with key off and I have power! So why don't they work with the
> key off? I called P.J. Grady , but just my luck they told me nobody
> could help me until May 12! ( I guess the only person with brains went
> on vacation). Any ideas wouid be greatly appreciated.
>
> Aaron
> vin 11554
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Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 10:02:33 -0400 (EDT)
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> Subject: RE: Hood lines
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:08:11 -0800
> From: "tomcio" <tomcio@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Hi,
> Yes you can. I just went to look at a "D" for sale, it is vin 1014
> and it has both the lines and gas flap. BTW if someone is interested
> in buing that car it is at a local car dealer for $13900 with 30,657
> miles on it. Email me at tomcio@xxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> >> Jameel
> >>
> >> You can have lines or you can have a hood gas flap, but you can't
> have
> >> both!
> >>
> >> Dick
> >> ----------------------------
> >> >> From: "Jameel Ahed" <ahed@xxxxxxxx>
> >> >> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> Subject: I need a hood and T top!
> >> >> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:22:15 -0500
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear DML,
> >> >> I am looking for a completely straight (NO DENTS OR
> DINGS!!!)
> >> Hood
> >> >> with
> >> >> the lines and a fuel flap.
> >> >> Also I am looking for a straight T-Top. Please give me a
> call
> >> or
> >> >> write
> >> >> me directly on this matter. (217) 337-7609
> >> >> Jameel
> >> >>
> >> >> Jameel Ahed CEO of CyberTECH Industries
> >> >> Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions
> >> >> HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/
> >> >> VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com
> >> >> EMAIL: mailto:ahed@xxxxxxxx
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>
> ....
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Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 10:04:32 -0400 (EDT)
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> From: SoundKillr <SoundKillr@xxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 21:36:45 EDT
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: hood with lines
>
> Yes they made the hood with the lines AND the gas flap
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> From: SoundKillr <SoundKillr@xxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 21:36:45 EDT
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: hood with lines
>
> Yes they made the hood with the lines AND the gas flap
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Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 10:10:54 -0400 (EDT)
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> From: "Joe LoRe'" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: zilla's
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 22:07:17 -0400
>
> James,
> "Zilla" is the product name for specialty components designed
> specifically
> for the DeLorean. They replace electrical components that were of
> inferior
> design and operation or are no longer available. There is the
> "Lockzilla"
> for door locks, "Tankzilla" which is for the fuel gauge, and
> "Fanzilla"
> which controls the electric cooling fans. They are marketed by P.G.
> Grady
> Inc. 516 589-6224
> ----------
> > From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: dmcnews-outgoing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject:
> > Date: Thursday, April 30, 1998 10:34 AM
> >
> > > From: "James DeBroeck" <y089@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: the -zillas
> > > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:53:04 -0500
> > >
> > > I'm a rather recent subscriber to the list and soon to be DMC
> owner.
> > > Right
> > > now I'm using the list to do research on all the stuff that will
> > > probably
> > > have to be done to the car once I buy it. But lately, one thing
> has
> > > been
> > > bothering me. What are all these zilla things I hear about (i.e.
> > > Tankzilla,
> > > Lockzilla, Fanzilla). Is there any place I can go to look at them
> or
> > > see
> > > how much they cost?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > James DeBroeck
> > > soon to be owner
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Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 10:19:17 -0400 (EDT)
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> From: "Joe LoRe'" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: exhaust manifold
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 22:12:37 -0400
>
> The DeLorean exhaust manifolds are the same as all Volvo GLE series
> cars
> 1979 - 1987 that use that Volvo B-28F engine. Any competent Volvo
> repair
> facility should be able to do the job at reasonable cost.
> DeLorean Services
> ----------
> > From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: dmcnews-outgoing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject:
> > Date: Thursday, April 30, 1998 10:51 AM
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:49:54 -0400 (EDT)
> > > From: J <sundiver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Repair shop near Newtown PA
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a recomendation for a good repair shop near
> Newtown
> PA
> > > (near Philadelphia and Trenton). I've got a leaking exhaust
> manifold,
> and
> > > since I don't have an engine hoist (or a garage for that matter),
> I'd
> > > rather not try to fix this myself. I can just see breaking off a
> stud
> and
> > > then not being able to get a drill on it without removing the
> engine.
> > >
> > > - J
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Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 10:22:18 -0400 (EDT)
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> From: NJP548 <NJP548@xxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 22:43:28 EDT
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: hood lines
>
>
> << The first deloreans hoods were stamped
> > =
> > with both the lines and the gas flap. >>
> We all know that the first DeLoreans had the hood with the gas flap
> and the
> lines, but what Dick meant was that you can't find that kind of a hood
> anymore, believe me i need one and I am still looking for one. I do
> know of a
> person who has one but he wants $4500 for it.
>
> Nick
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Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 10:25:37 -0400 (EDT)
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> From: Duke <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: hood lines
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 22:44:27 -0500
>
> Dick,
>
>
> Actually my Aug. '81 has the lines and the gas flap. Anyone else????
>
> Thanks,
>
> Duke
> Vin # 2823
>
>
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>
> > From: raddad@xxxxxxx
> > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:25:28 -0700
> > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: hood wanted
> >
> > Jameel
> >
> > You can have lines or you can have a hood gas flap, but you can't have
> > both!
> >
> > Dick
> > ----------------------------
>
>
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