dmcnews-digest Friday, October 23 1998 Volume 03 : Number 432
In this issue:
Re: DML: Re: leaking fuel lines?
Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
Re: DML: New startup car company ... sorta
DML: Stuck Plugs
DML: Re: wiring nightmare
DML: Re: workshop manual question
DML: Re: Front end vibration
Re: DML: Re: speaker boxes
DML: Re: PRV V6 was a V8 / Thanks for the plug advice
DML: Re: What is a torsion bar? (was my t-bar tweaked)
DML: DMC & A&E
DML: Re: wiring nightmare
Re: DML: Re: Speaker Boxes
DML: Alternator??
Re: DML: New startup car company ... sorta
Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
Re: DML: Re: PRV V6 was a V8 / Thanks for the plug advice
DML: dmc atari
DML: Re: DeLorean prototype owned by Blackhawk
DML: Re: coil covers
Re:DML: dmc atari
DML: A missing De
DML: Re: My torsion bar spontaniously tweaked. Where is it?
Re: DML: New startup car company ... sorta
DML: accident
DML: Re: Alternator??
DML: Re: DMC & A&E
DML: Re: DirectHits follow-up
DML: Delorean Dealer
re DML: Delorean self bleeder (again)
DML: Thank you
DML: Brake fluid?
DML: steering column bushings
Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
Re: DML: Commercial postings (was: steering column bushings)
Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:47:45 -0400
From: tundra@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Re: leaking fuel lines?
> Tip from my airplane mechanic.
Take those copper washers used on the fuel system and place them on a
piece of heavy
wire (coat hanger), heat till red hot ( blow torch) and drop in water.
Like new.
Mike
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:30:11 -0700
From: Ben Krasnow <kraz@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
Is there currently a DeLorean at the Blackhawk Car Museum in Northern
California? I went there less than a year ago specifically looking for
one, but they mostly had older cars. If you know of one that is there
right now, I will probably be taking as trip shortly. Thanks
> on the last meeting of the Nor Cal DMC where we went to the Blackhawk
> Museum(as described by So Cal member Mr Breer, thx for the post) i met
> "RadDad" and looked at his turbo "D". WOW! well, he had a self bleeder
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:39:44 +0000
From: ausmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: New startup car company ... sorta
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:11:40 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Bill Wilson <fluffy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: DML: New startup car company ... sorta
> Reply-to: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 ausmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > Cobra, and with great success. JZD should have taken a lesson from
> > him and started small, but then our cars would cost much more and
> > most of us wouldn't be able to afford them.
>
> I don't think starting small was an option.
???????
I must disagree. Everyone associated with this car except JZD was
into small run production. Colin Chapman, Lotus, never produced
anything on a GM scale in his life. Giorgetto Giugiro did most of his
design work, at the time, for Ferrari. If DeLorean had followed
these examples and expanded as demand justified it, he might still be
in business.
Chris
#6301
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:26:38 EDT
From: WtrResQ@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Stuck Plugs
nk 897 wrote
snip>
dry ice shaped like a spark plug boot :-) and the damage it will do your
fingers is obvious. If you get desperate you may want to try liquid
nitrogen. It is readily available, can be poured on the plugs but make
sure
you use an insulated container to pour from and/or wear gloves.
snip>
plz dont put liquid nitrogen on your delorean. i worked in a lab for
over 3
yrs and worked w/ it. it freezes soooo cold that the frosen item will be
so
brittle it will shatter. very bad! plz, plz plz,....dont try this at
home.
i hope NK was joking.
james
10470
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:43:40 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: wiring nightmare
Brian,
The silver box your talking about is part of the fuel/emissions system far
as the rest of your wiring nightmares here is what I suggest. Remove any
and all wiring that is not original to the car, I know this is difficult
but unused extra wiring will make all future trouble shooting and
servicing
much more difficult. If you have any further questions on wiring email me
directly.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:17:47 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: workshop manual question
Doug,
Item # 1 RH door lights are the three lamp symbols at the lower right side
of the page.
Item # 2 are the three lamps at the lower left of the page.
Item # 3, 5, and 6, are the four diodes in the center of the picture. The
upper right is the interior light diode, the lower left is for the left
door switch the lower right one is for the right door switch.
Item # 4 are the lamp switches at the upper right of the page.
Item # 7 is the dash "lock doors" warning lamp it is at the left center of
the picture and is connected to fuse # 5.
Item # 8 is at the right center of the page.
Items # 9 and 10 are the switches located directly above the door lights,
left and right respectfully.
All the diodes in the car should be connected, this could be the cause of
your problem. The last time I order a connector/coil cover there were
readily available.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:32:46 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Front end vibration
Nick,
We have some times encountered persistent problems with balancing and in
all cases it was eventually remedied by our alignment shop. Some cars can
be aligned in 15 minutes, some may take 90 minutes. Not knowing how your
alignment shop handles such problems here is how our Guys do it. All four
tires are static balanced, machine balanced, and than checked for
"roundness'. The tires are re-mounted and two technicians proceed to do an
"on the car balance". One to spin the tires the other to feel the car for
vibration. When that is completed they take the car for a road test and
drive it at speed. They repeat this process until the car is vibration
free. Hope the is helpful information.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
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> From: Kemp, Nick (MN10) <nick.kemp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: 'Delorean Newsletter' <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: DML: Front end vibration
> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 12:14 PM
>
> I have front end vibration around 55 MPH, any ideas what is causing it?
>
> Background:
> - New AVS tires
> - When mounted they did an on car balance
> - Car is aligned to spec
> - Very noticeable front end vibration
> - A month goes by without any driving
> - Took it back and had them balanced again. This time off car since the
> on
> car balancing guy is missing (literally)
> - less vibration but still noticeable
> - Mechanic says everything up front is tight
>
> Do you think it is still the balance or do things like bearings come into
> suspicion?
>
> Thanks,
>
> NK
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:13:44 EDT
From: WtrResQ@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Re: speaker boxes
ok, im gonna have to say that i dont agree w/ Kayo(entirely) in his last
post.
my wife is a composer and sound designer. she has been in the music
business
for the past 23 yrs, as a profesional. i just installed a new sound
system in
my "D" and she says that it sounds "great".
i feel that the shape and design of most cars makes for a very good
listening
area, although once the car is turned on and then driven, one looses this
great listening room due to the outside noise.
i upgraded the indash and rear speakers w/ high end speakers able to
reproduce
nice highs and mids. these are run off an indash Bloupunkt(sp) deck w/
cd.
to take care of the bass issue, i installed an 8 in. bazooka tube which
has
its own crossover and gain control, and is powered by an onboard amp. i
chose
the 8 in. tube after listening to both the 6 and the 10. now the 6 was
tight,
but was not able to reproduce enough of the lows in modern R & B/ or
jazz.
the 10 was just way to much....it just vibrated too much. the 8 was, to
quote
a famous little bear, "was just right".
now Kayo was right in theory regarding the proper listening distance to be
from a speaker for the "best" bass, great bass can still be heard from the
distance found inside a car. not only is bass heard but it is felt by the
body and the little hairs inside the ear. i invite anyone to listen to my
system and tell me that it does not sound good.
just my 2 cents,
james
10470
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:19:28 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: PRV V6 was a V8 / Thanks for the plug advice
>length on the Swedishbrick mailing list years ago. Also it is explained
>why the V is at the angle of a V8 even if it's a V6, and Peugeot added the
>balancer on the 505 to make it work smoother. It's also mentioned in the
>Haynes Volvo 260 book.=20
I had read something about the balancer on a Peugeot mailing list.... Does
anyone have information on this little gem? If this would work on our
cars,
it seems like added "smoothness" would be a major advantage.. my engine
has
always seemed a tad on the rough side... Not like there was something
wrong,
just that it wasn't "right" ...
BTW: I wanted to thank everyone on the list for offering advice on my
spark
plug delimma. I warmed it up, cooled it down, drenched it in WD-40, and
used all sorts of "snapping" movements with my hand and my hammer.. all to
no avail. Then I just figured I'd brute force it, I got a $3.50 torque
wrench with a 2-foot handle, and after about 120 ft/lbs of torque, they
came
off. Even the "Nasty, behind the driver" plug didn't take me too long to
change. I'm still collecting data on the DirectHits that I installed, and
I'll let you all know the results in my D.
Thanks again!
- - Dave
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:40:35 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: What is a torsion bar? (was my t-bar tweaked)
>I just replaced the door lift/support struts on my D. this week. > I have
>seen several messages on the exchange about this "torsion bar". What is
>it?
>Where is it? And how do you inspect it? And do I need to do anything to
>it
>since I put the new door struts on?
>
The torsion bar is what actually opens the door. The struts just assist
the
t-bar. Without the struts the door would droop, but would still open
(somewhat) .. The t-bar is located at the top of the door opening. It is
inserted into the front door hinge, passes in front of the rear hinge,
through the body and into a bracket that you can see in the crack between
the roof and the rear louvers.
If you've replaced your struts and the door opens normally (i.e. not too
fast/springy, not too droopy) the t-bars can be left alone. There doesn't
seem to be any "maintenance" for them persay, however, make sure you don't
score or scuff them with a sharp object, as that will cause a fracture
that
will eventually lead to my little episode. I think that my bar was
rubbing
against the rear hinge.. it looked like it was pretty close to it.
Eventually your t-bars may need to be adjusted, which involves one person
holding the door and another person applying opposing torque on the t-bar
while bolting on the support bracket. I've heard this can be very
dangerous, and require some skill and special tools.. Of which I'll
probably have to get right quick.. No way I'm climbing over the console
to
get out of my car!
- -Dave
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:39:04 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DMC & A&E
To all DML members:
To any one interested in the encouragement of an A&E TV show featuring
the
DeLorean or it's history can propose such a show at any time.
If this is something you might like to do, there are three possible
programs to send you suggestions to.
1. American Justice
2. Biography
3. Investigative Reports
All the information from the A&E channel suggest that they have programs
booked so far into the future that sending in program ideas is pointless,
however don't believe this. The program directors are always vulnerable to
a good idea. The trick is not mass mailings, nor long detailed
manuscripts.
The best possible approach is a one page letter format with the key points
in addition to one well written paragraph that outlines why the subject
would make a good program. My guess is that if A&E gets any significant
number of well read suggestions, that they are more likely to do a program
than if they receive nothing.
For what it's worth I would not couch a letter being from a DeLorean fan
or perhaps even owner, I would imagine that A&E gets gobs of trite mail
from every nut group wanting to promote everything from speciality cars to
animal sacrifice.
Each of these shows are quite different so I would suggest that if you
choose to contact more than one you offer different approaches for each
program pointing your suggestion on the main theme of each program venue.
any one wanting to add to this thread Points that might be worth
mentioning in a possible program are certainly welcome by me.
Here are the address to use in sending in your program ideas.
AMERICAN JUSTICE should be sent to:
235 East 45th street
New York, NY 10017.
ATTN.: AMERICAN JUSTICE.
note: schedule is filled well into the foreseeable future.
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS should be sent to:
235 East 45th street
New York, NY 10017.
ATTN.: INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS.
note: schedule is filled well into the foreseeable future.
BIOGRAPHY should be submitted to Biography suggestions through
feedback
form - Please do not submit unsolicited manuscripts to A&E.BIOGRAPHY.
A&E.BIOGRAPHY is designed to showcase the most fascinating figures of
all time.
Just some thoughts!
Lee
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:48:20 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: wiring nightmare
>2. The module for the alarm is located in the "box" behind driver's seat.
>Dumb question: right next to it is a silver box that says "Jetronic." Is
>this box part of the car's electrical system or part of the alarm?
Sorry I can't help with your other questions (although I would suggest
getting those systems working, they sound cool) but the Jetronic box is
part
of the "Bosch K-Jetronic" fuel injection system that lets your car drink
the
mighty-mighty go-juice. If you take it out, it'll be much harder to
drive.
:)
Have fun with all your Cal Custom goodies!
- - Dave
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:45:52 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Speaker Boxes
Marc,
Your right, the TW10X2 is too long, that means the TW8X2 is the unit that
would fit comfortably on the shelf.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:12:08 -0400
From: "yugoman" <mdrig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Alternator??
OK, my D is having the dreaded electrical problems. Last couple times it's
been started, reqired a jump-off. When it's running the amp meter is still
on 0. And there's an awful burning smell, could the alternator be just
"burned up"? And if this is the problem, anybody have an alternator for
sale
to fit? Mine's #2423, August 81 build. Thanks.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:49:57 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: New startup car company ... sorta
Chris said:
> . . . Colin Chapman, Lotus, never produced anything on a GM
> scale in his life. Giorgetto Giugiro did most of his design work,
> at the time, for Ferrari. If DeLorean had followed these examples
> and expanded as demand justified it, he might still be in business.
I don't think DeLorean had the option of starting small. The British
government had contributed a lot of money and expected to get a lot of
jobs in return. The moment he decided to build the plant in Ireland,
DeLorean took on a whole new set of political constraints that had
nothing to do with building cars or conducting a business.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:09:30 -0700
From: "Ryan Bennett" <rpbennet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
>Is there currently a DeLorean at the Blackhawk Car Museum in Northern
>California? I went there less than a year ago specifically looking for
>one, but they mostly had older cars. If you know of one that is there
>right now, I will probably be taking as trip shortly. Thanks
>
It's my understanding that a prototype D was at the Blackhawk Museum, but
has recently been relocated.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:05:16 -0700
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Re: PRV V6 was a V8 / Thanks for the plug advice
>change. I'm still collecting data on the DirectHits that I installed, and
>I'll let you all know the results in my D.
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Dave
Yes, please do keep us informed of your experiences. There are so many
wonderfully sounding aftermarket products, but few seem to live up to
their
manufacturers' claims. Some people won't even tell the truth if they've
been burned for fear of looking like fools. Since many people think we D
owners are foolish anyway, we aren't bothered by that. Your impartial
opinion will be valuable.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:57:36 EDT
From: ATMorgan1@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: dmc atari
I have searched for the dmc atari on the search engine but did not find
any
description of pictures. Could somebody please describe this to me or
tell me
where to see a picture of it.
Thanks
ATM
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 13:06:52 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: DeLorean prototype owned by Blackhawk
On 10/22/98 7:10 PM, Ryan Bennett shared these fine thoughts...
>It's my understanding that a prototype D was at the Blackhawk Museum, but
>has recently been relocated.
>
This is the same car that was at the barrett-Jackson auction here in
Arizona this past January. Photos of this car are at the DMC-News website.
Stricylt speaking, it was not a "prototype", but actually a
pre-production car. Most people consider the "prototypes"to be the cars
built and engineered by Bill Collins (anyone know his whereabouts now?)
This pre-production car has sliding windows, a slightly different
interior and a few other minor differences. Most noticeably, the fascias
and other pieces of the car were fiberglass (very heavy!).
James
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:08:11 -0400
From: Mike Griese <magriese@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: coil covers
Doug - I think DeLorean One is remanufacturing the coil covers.
Michael A. Griese
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN 55901
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 14:03:33 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re:DML: dmc atari
>I have searched for the dmc atari on the search engine but did not find any
>description of pictures. Could somebody please describe this to me or
>tell me where to see a picture of it.
I don't believe any pictures were ever made available.
While I do not know *for sure*, I believe this product was a scam by the
seller "paraversal@xxxxxxx". There was some discusion on this in
"rec.games.video.classic", You can see the discussion for yourself at
dejanews...
http://x9.dejanews.com/dnquery.xp?search=next&DBS=1&LNG=ALL&IS=delorean%20A
ND%20atari&svcclass=dnold&ST=QS&offsets=&svcclass=dnold&CONTEXT=909089181.1
397948458
Or, if the thought of copying and pasting that URL is intimidating, you
can search for yourself. Search for "past" messages under the terms
"atari AND delorean".
The seller had them advertised on the list once and then on eBay. I would
love to hear from someone who actually bought one of these and what you
ended yup getting for your money.
James
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:12:44 EDT
From: Elgocho@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: A missing De
I've only seen two Deloreans in real life. Those two have been the BTTF
De at
Universal Studios, FL and one that was parked in gasoline station near my
house. I guessed that the owner of the station/garage owned the car. Any
time
I passed by the gas station, whether it was in a car or on the bus, I ran
toward the window closest to the station and hoped I saw this great car
again.
I would go by the station every so often, but this year my bus passes by
the
station every day, unfortunately the De isn't there any more. I was
wondering
if anybody knew what happened to it? Did the owner sell it, and if he
did, did
any of you buy it?
The station is on the corner of University Drive and Southgate Blvd. in
Tamarac (but very near to Coral Springs) Florida.
Thank you.
BOSCH<=====
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:19:47 -0400
From: Mike Griese <magriese@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: My torsion bar spontaniously tweaked. Where is it?
There is a torsion bar for each door. It's that grey round bar
at the top of the door. The bar provides the torque required to
start opening the door. The gas struts provide the rest of the
force required to lift the door.
The torsion bars are pretty high-tech. They were manufactured
by Grumman and are cryogenically "set" torsion springs.
As others have mentioned, don't scratch the bar. The scratch
affects the torsional rigidity of the bar and they have been
known to shatter.
Michael A. Griese
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN 55901
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:19:16 -0500
From: Bill Marcussen <billmarcussen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: New startup car company ... sorta
Mike Substelny wrote:
>
> I don't think DeLorean had the option of starting small. The British
> government had contributed a lot of money and expected to get a lot of
> jobs in return.
JZD was a big thinker and approached the whole concept very
expansively. He sold his project as a big one, thus created big
expectations from the British government, among others. I believe the
project could have started on a small scale and then grown into a big
success, but JZD couldn't have done it. He thinks on too large a scale!
My .02 worth!
Bill
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:21:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: brian metz <metz.50@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: accident
For the poor guy whose car was hit. Not to say that what anyone else
posted
may be incorrect (because I do not know where they are e-mailing from),
but
be aware that insurance laws vary from state to state. There are no
federal
guidelines, it is purely a matter of state law. I am in Ohio. Here, as
with most states, insurance is mandatory and there are set minimums on the
amount of liability one must carry. Unfortunately, that minimum is very
low, and the amount of coverage can easily be eaten up in repairing the
car
or medical bills alone. This leaves you out in the cold as far as
shipping
the car or paying for a rental. Don't get me wrong, the guy that hit you
may have great coverage, but not a sure fact. Many times the best thing
to
do (If they give you any hassles about anything) is to contact your
insurance company and let them handle it. I don't mean let them pay for
it,
I mean they know the laws, how the coverages work, have the attorneys on
staff, and want to make sure that it doesn't end up as a claim that they
have to pay. Besides, that's what you have been paying them money for all
of this time.
Brian #16584
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:35:23 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Alternator??
Yugoman,
Sounds like, I mean smells like your alternator is dead, you have probably
burnt up the diodes. Replacement alternators are available from all of the
major DeLorean parts suppliers.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:23:16 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: DMC & A&E
Lee,
TV programs are produced not by viewer demand but by sponsorship support.
Cable networks like A&E, Discovery, TNN, etc. are only carriers of
programs
that fit their target audience. The only way to influence the creation and
production of a television program is to convince an advertiser why it
would be beneficial for them to support the program you have in mind. Your
best bet is to find a program that is similar to the type of show your
looking to create, a classic auto show would be a good candidate, than
check out who the advertisers are. Who ever the show "is bought to you by"
is the best candidate. Remember, they are the ones that put up the mega
bucks to produce the show. If they think your idea has merit they will
produce a pilot and in turn show the pilot to the TV or cable network. If
the network thinks the show fits their format and would pull a lot of
viewers they would than contract the producer to do a series.
Your heart is certainly in the right place but as much as you, I, and all
of our friends love DeLoreans it is not "series" materiel. A one hour
special might fit the bill.
In the early days of TV viewer demand could influence program choices,
that
is; no more! It all boils down to the "mighty dollar". The sponsor is your
target not the carrier.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:42:48 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: DirectHits follow-up
>Yes, please do keep us informed of your experiences. There are so many
>wonderfully sounding aftermarket products, but few seem to live up to
>their
>manufacturers' claims. Some people won't even tell the truth if they've
>been burned for fear of looking like fools. Since many people think we D
>owners are foolish anyway, we aren't bothered by that. Your impartial
>opinion will be valuable.
Well, I don't keep you all in suspense about these little beauties, so
I'll tell you what I've found thus far..
They claim to offer:
* Improved starting...
I experienced no change, it always takes me a couple tries.
* Smooth engine operation...
This was immediately noticable, idles smoother, accelerates smoother,
and much quieter. I had to catch myself yelling at the passenger a
couple times, because I was used to much more engine noise.
* Reduced emissions...
Ok, you're all going to think I'm crazy, but I hollowed out my CAT,
and
afterwards, the exhaust burned my lungs.. After the DirectHits were in
there, it's back to tollerable. (Not that I'm sucking on my exhaust
pipes
or anything.) <g>
* Reduced carbon build up...
?? Who knows.
* Improved throttle response / horsepower...
Well, I don't know much about horsepower, but I did notice that I no
longer get a "lag" followed by a "surge" when accelerating, it's a
more
constant, smooth power curve. And I do seem to have more "pep".
(I'm diriving an Automatic)
* Improved fuel economy (up to 30%)
I haven't gone through a tank of gas yet, so I'll post the MPG
improvement (if any) as soon as I fix my door and burn up some gas.
This was my main reason for the purchase, so I'm anxious to see the
results...
Overall, I'm very pleased with this product. Total cost was $88 which
included 6 DirectHits, 6 non-resistor Bosch plugs, and shipping. They
arrived via priority mail in a couple days. They guy that runs Cumbustive
Tech. is very friendly, and very helpful.
I had to hack up the ends of my spark plug wires because of the way
DirectHits are installed. They screw on to the top of your spark plug,
and
that adds some extra height. I wanted to keep the well sealed, so I cut a
hole out of the rubber grommet on the wire ends (big enough to fit around
the DirectHits) pushed it on to seal the well, and used the "grommetless"
rubber boot as a regular wire end.
For more info on these guys, go to www.directhits.com
I'll give you the skinny on my MPG as soon as I can!
- - Dave
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:14:30 -0400
From: Joe Palatinus <jpalatinus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Delorean Dealer
I just got my Beautiful 1981 Delorean ( vin 006808) and I was wondering
if
any one knows of a place in east Tennessee where I could get it repaired.
Thanks
Joe P.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 98 20:17:06 -0000
From: David Swingle <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: re DML: Delorean self bleeder (again)
On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:34:18 EDT
WtrResQ@xxxxxxx Wrote:
>Subject: DML: Delorean self bleeder
> WOW! well, he had a self bleeder
>attached to the bleeder valve that tapped into the upper/return hose on
>the rear of the coolant bottle. my first question to the list is...i have not
>been able to find a water hose to attach to the bleeder valve that has a
>inner diameter of 1/4 inch. i have found lots of fuel line of this size,
which
>would take higher pressure than a water line, but ive heard that fuel
>line can not be used w/ coolant. ive heard that the rubber will
>breakdown......anyone?
I sure wouldn't use fuel line on a heater hose. It's not rated for the
temperature. Actually I thought the hose was the easy part, I used NAPA
M08282 5/16" (8 mm) hose. You'll need a 5/16 (8mm) brass tee for the
upper end. To me the hard part was the fitting that screws into the water
pump housing, it is a 1.0 metric thread, and it's about impossible to
find in a hose barb without traveling to Europe. It looks a lot like 1/4
NPT thread BUT IT ISN'T. The trick is to get a metric brake bleeder
fitting of the proper size, and drill out the end. You can also get a
metric brake line fitting, and a flare-to-hosebarb adapter. You'll have
to visit and industrial hose place for that one. If you just put the hose
on the existing bleeder, it will leak around the threads, and the hose
will probably fall off anyway.
Difficulty in finding the parts is why it's worth buying the kit from
Arnie for 17 bucks.
Dave Swingle
81 VIN 5429
DOA, DMC, DMC(Midwest)
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:39:37 EDT
From: eurojet@xxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Thank you
I just wanted to thank all of you who have responded to my various
questions on the DML. I currently have an appointment with Don at the
DeLorean Motor Center for a 62 point check up. That should aleviate all
of my new owner concerns. I also enjoyed the light hearted answers to my
question about the D in a parade! If any of you are ever in the San Diego
area on vacation or work related business and need a DeLorean fix, please
let me know and I'll share mine with you. I'd love to show it off to
another appreciative owner.
On a side note, last weekend there was a Concours de Elegance held here
in La Jolla. I only went as far as driving my DeLorean around the outside
of the venue to admire all of the publics vehicles. Lots of new BMWs,
Porsches, Mercedes, Ferraris, etc. but not one D in sight! These really
are rare automobiles. Christie's also held an auction and a 1955 Mercedes
Gullwing Coupe sold for $272,000!!! Perhaps our cars are headed in that
direction. By then I'll need the money for a rest home... Fil.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:10:56 -0400
From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Brake fluid?
A member of this list told me about a certain type of brake fluid that I =
should use in my D, but somehow that info got deleted. I remember they =
said to use a Castrol product b/c it doesn't react with the rubber seals =
in the calipers. Whoever sent that to me, would you please resend that =
info? Thank you.
---Dan # 5493
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:28:13 +0000
From: "darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: steering column bushings
RE: "steering wheel creep" - I manufacture and sell replacement column
bushings machined from Delrin (sp?) plastic for $9.95 plus postage.
Darryl
@ Specialty Automotive 360-495-4640 or darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
James - can I say that? Or is that being "commercial"? Just trying to
help.
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:51:07 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
At 12:09 PM 10/22/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>Is there currently a DeLorean at the Blackhawk Car Museum in Northern
>>California? I went there less than a year ago specifically looking for
>>one, but they mostly had older cars. If you know of one that is there
>>right now, I will probably be taking as trip shortly. Thanks
>>
>
>It's my understanding that a prototype D was at the Blackhawk Museum, but
>has recently been relocated.
>
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reply:
For clarification, the Prototype is part of a collection that was loaned
out 3 days before we got there, and will be back after the loan is over.
Lee Seiler - Charter member NCDMC
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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:27:58 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Commercial postings (was: steering column bushings)
On 10/22/98 10:28 PM, darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx shared these fine thoughts...
>RE: "steering wheel creep" - I manufacture and sell replacement column
>bushings machined from Delrin (sp?) plastic for $9.95 plus postage.
>Darryl
>@ Specialty Automotive 360-495-4640 or darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>James - can I say that? Or is that being "commercial"? Just trying to
>help.
Commercial postings have not necessarily been a problem on the DML. I did
have a problem with a certain international DeLorean club that wanted to
post their products for sale, but wouldn't let me advertise the DML in
their publication. They are a good-sized organization with a large
budget, why should I let them advertise for free when they won't even let
me PAY to advertise the DML?
Darryl has contributed several articles to the 'zine, two of which I have
published and the rest will appear in future issues. Joe at DeLorean
Services is a welcome contributor to the DML and I would not have a
problem if he ever wanted to advertise his services every so often.
DeLorean Motor Company (Houston) and PJ Grady are assisting in the
distribution of "DeLorean Owners Directory" registration forms (inserting
one in outgoing parts orders), so I would not have a problem if they ever
wanted to use the DML - you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.
However, I won't let the DML turn into a huge commercial - rest assured.
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:06:12 EDT
From: CBL302@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Delorean at Blackhawk?
I was just wondering,does anybody know the VIN number of the
pre-production
prototype that was at the Blackhawk Museum,and build date?
Claude
Vin#00570
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