dmcnews-digest Wednesday, August 26 1998 Volume 03 : Number 406
In this issue:
DML: When having the front end aligned ...
DML: Fwd: Fwd: DeLorean needed for advertisement in Spain
Re: DML: DML Luggage Rack Installation
DML: Zine in mid-September....
DML: Re: clutch problems?
RE: DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??
Re: DML: keys
DML: DeLorean Car Show
Re: DML: Frame welding and cleaning stainless
Re: DML: keys
Re: DML: Re: courtesy fuse blowing
DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
Re: DML: Re: DML Never believe a photo!
DML: KPH speedo
Re: DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??
DML: Re: Radio inline fuse
Re: DML: Re: courtesy fuse blowing
DML: Re: Re: clutch problems?
Re: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
Re: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
DML: anlge drive and warm engine
Re: DML: keys
Re: DML: Re: DML Never believe a photo!
DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
DML: wheels and tires
Re: DML: Re: Radio inline fuse
DML: Yokohama tires
Re: DML: angle drive and warm engine
DML: New engine
Air scoops (was Re: DML: Keys)
DML: Re: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
DML: DeLorean club in Miami
Re: DML: angle drive and warm engine
Re: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
Re: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
Re: DML: Re: DML Never believe a photo!
Re: DML: Re: DML Never believe a photo!
Re: DML: wheels and tires
Re: DML: wheels and tires
Re: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
Re: Air scoops (was Re: DML: Keys)
DML: DeLorean Expo '98!
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:26:28 -0500
From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10)" <nick.kemp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: When having the front end aligned ...
If you have the front end toe-in adjusted, make sure they reposition the
boots. I recently had the front end realigned since I had fully
disassembled it. They adjusted the toe-in, even though it was within
spec,
but they did not reposition the tie-rod boot and it tore when I made a
turn.
The replacement boot appears to be rather expensive. Another thing to
remember when you are having your car serviced.
Nick Kemp
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 98 10:39:28 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Fwd: Fwd: DeLorean needed for advertisement in Spain
Anyone in the south of Spain own a DeLorean? Email
"frccollectioncars@xxxxxxxxxxx" directly...
- ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ----------------
Date: 08/25 4:19 AM
Received: 08/25 10:34 AM
From: FRC, ferrer_b@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: James Espey, espey@xxxxxxxxxxx
First of all, congratulations for your web page.
We are a company who rent specials cars in movies and also in a publicity
advertisements, and we need for this sunday and also next monday one De
Lorean in the south of Spain. If you could help us, please contact as
soon as possible.
Our e-mail is: frccollectioncars@xxxxxxxxxxx and our phone number is
00-34-909308555 (24h.) or 00-34-93-4172060.
Thank you for everything.
Hector Ribas
- ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 98 10:50:49 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: DML Luggage Rack Installation
On 8/25/98 4:46 AM, Ken Montgomery shared these fine thoughts...
> I finally got the nerve to take a drill to my car and install the
> luggage rack I bought when I was back at the Cincinnati show. I think
> the instructions that came with the rack are junk. Now I have an 82
The next edition of the 'zine (due out in mid-September) has an article
about the luggage rack installation...
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 98 11:26:48 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Zine in mid-September....
On 8/25/98 10:50 AM, James Espey shared these fine thoughts...
>The next edition of the 'zine (due out in mid-September) has an article
>about the luggage rack installation...
To all the wise guys who so thoughtfully took the time to respond - YES,
I mean mid-September 1998! ;)
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:25:57 -0400
From: Mike Griese <magriese@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: clutch problems?
Claude
Mike is on the right path, but you might want to start simply.
Check to make sure you have fluid in the clutch reservoir. It's
located under the front bonnet. If your fluid level is low, you may
also need to bleed the clutch at the slave cylinder. Actually,
you might want to do this anyway.
The plastic clutch line problem is more noticeable when
the car is hot. The plastic softens a bit with temperature and
balloons when you try to actuate the clutch. This prevents the
clutch from operating fully, causing the grinding while you shift.
The braided stainless steel line is more rigid and tends to
reflect heat.
Other possibilities are the clutch slave and master cylinders.
Suspect the master cylinder first, slaves hardly ever fail.
Michael A. Griese
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN 55901
Internet: magriese@xxxxxxxxxx
voice: (507)253-1853
fax: (507)253-2880
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:26:56 -0400
From: Cirillo Ronald A NUWCDIVNPT <CirilloRA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??
Joe,
Just a quick comment. I have a Ducellier Alternator and have
not had a problem since I modified it years ago. I am still looking for
my notes but I can tell you what I did. One of the weak links in the
Ducellier is the internal Diode bridge. Mine went out within six months
of owning my D. Since I was used to working on LUCAS type electrical
problems, I decided to find out how to improve the design and
performance and have everything look the same. I took the diode bridge
down to my local autoparts store and asked if they had anything close.
Sure enough I got a bridge from either a Ford or GM (I do have the part
# somewhere) that required a small modification. I cut the edges of the
heat sink on a bandsaw so that it would fit inside the alternator. At
the same time I replaced the internal regulator( I believe with a
JEMCO). I put a diode in the sense line to the regulator to fool the
alternator into putting out more current. It essentially puts out 0.7
Volts higher than it normally would with a proportional amount of
current increase (about 7-8%). Have not had a problem since. Total
cost for the diode bridge and diode at the time were under $10. I do
not remember what the regulator cost.
Ron
> ----------
> From: Joe[SMTP:dmcjoe@xxxxxxx]
> Reply To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 3:17 AM
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??
>
> Claude.
> Yes, the GM Delco 100 amp # 7295-12 (Cadallic late 80's) will fit with the
> addition of a longer adjusting arm or universal type. No wiring
> modification is required just cut off the existing Ducillier connector and
> only use the brown/yellow wire to B+, cut the brown wire back and cap or
> tape it. Neither the Delco nor the Motorola use the brown wire.
> Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:39:15 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: keys
At 03:28 PM 8/24/98 EDT, you wrote:
>Mr. Seiler,
>
>These are key blanks not of DMC manufacturer. They are after market to
>fit
>Volvo and other vehicles. They work great, with no modifications. They
>are
>less then $3.00 ($2.75???) for the flat one, about $3.50 for the black
>handle
>one? In either way it is a bargain for me -- just for the availability
>and
>cut too.
>
>In this great city of NY they should have everything. I have searched and
>searched for a key blank for the DeLorean and I could not find one. I
>just
>happen to walk into a community hardware store near Chinatown where I
>park my
>cars (I wanted to harass them for fun of it, foolish that I am), guess
>what?
>They had it, and more. More you may ask??? They also got me key blanks
>for
>my Bentley (or Rolls Royce), which is non existing. They are only
>available
>from the RROC or the manufacturers-distributors at a "cheap" price of an
>arm
>and a half of a leg -- key blanks $15.00. >From this local distributor?
>$2.75
>plus a little "handy" scoring to make the relief bigger on the blank to
>fit RR
>standard cylinders as designed by the Yale lock company (they had to be
>different to get their prices).
>
>Now I humble myself one more time. Don't under estimate the "little"
>stores.
>I should know better, that is how I use to build up my other businesses.
>Store the unusual items and go out of the way to get the customers what
>they
>needed as long it is available from a supply source.
>
>Anyway, If I can be of help, please let me know.
>
>Kayo
reply:
Hi Kayo,
Thanks for the information. James forwarded you other Key message. I
think
you may have some miss understanding about the DMC Logo Keys. There are
several key blade Blanks that will fit the cylinder pattern of the locks
used in the Delorean. All when "cut" by a competent key mach operator will
work in any DeLorean door/Ign system.
The Key blanks and "Pre-Cut" keys that I make are a work of LOVE not
intended to be a business or living income. It is an interest and a
service
I provide because I like taking part in my DeLorean family. I charge just
enough to pay for the materials and postage and stay a step ahead on
making
the dies I use to create the blanks. For this reason I use Key blanks that
come from the original Key Blank supplier in England, and I use a an
almost
indestructible Epoxy material for the Logo top.
Each set of Keys are hand made one Set at a time and takes about six (6)
hours from start to finish. The Logo tops are exact duplicates of the
original DeLorean Keys, made from a pressing of the Original.
I suspect that you could make a business out of making DeLorean keys, but
you must understand that I am not competing with any one in either price
or
type of key. Any one who would like to replace or add a Newly made almost
indestructible DeLorean Logo Key can get them from me for my going price.
You might be interested to know I have made about 375 sets of keys so far
for owners world wide, I make a few sets each month, Generally taking one
or two days a month when I make the Keys.
I hope this clears up what appears to be a miss understanding.
Lee
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:09:00 EDT
From: KKoncelik@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: DeLorean Car Show
Sean
I have your plaque but I need an address to send it to. The phone number
I
have is no good
Please e-mail me back directly at kkoncelik@xxxxxxx
thanks
Ken
Sorry to bother the rest of you
Thanks James
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:27:54 EDT
From: KayoOng@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Frame welding and cleaning stainless
All stainless steel, will spot and pit some degree. The more nickle
content
it has, the more resistance to pitting and duller "gray" the surface will
look. The more chrome content it has the shinnier "silver" the surface
will
be.
The 304 stainless steel which the DeLorean is made from will pitt and
spot if
you get "adverse" chemicals on it. Depending on the strength and the
type of
the chemical, the quicker this effect will set in. In due time it will
spot
up leaving discoloration and pitting. It is not totally immune to
spotting or
to pitting. It is still easier to take care of the stainle steel surface
than
a painted surface.
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic. 9D NY
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 19:14:48 EDT
From: KayoOng@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: keys
Mr. Seiler,
I did not intend that you are involved in profiteering. I was trying to
offer
help to either lowering the cost on your purchasing end or offering
another
supplier of the blanks.
The cost of blanks can be cheaper in price if you buy in bulk or direct
from
the manufactures. At times some suppliers or manufacturers may run out of
blanks too, so another source may be good to know.
I do know of your intentions with all the projects that you are involved
with.
Do keep up the good work! I have check your website.
Like Mr. Espey, he would generates moneys from the sales of his "goods" to
keep the operations of the DMCNEWS alive for all of us. That is great
and I
do support his cause by purchasing items that I can use from him.
I though you were generating money using the same principles of
operations to
help your projects and cause. No harm intend.
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic 9D NY
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:19:39 -0600
From: Brock Williams <brock@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: courtesy fuse blowing
Joe,
At first I was using 10A like it said it the manual, but after about 3 I
tried a 15 which blew also.
Brock
On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, you wrote:
>Brock,
>What size fuse are you using.
>Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:30:44 -0700
From: Luke Soasey <lsoasey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
Hello,
I have been a "closet-reader" of the DeLorean Mailing List for about
a year now. The information I have gathered from the messages has
been useful in more than one occasion. Thanks for all the help. I'm
going to ask one of my own questions today...
I've owned #4955 for a bit more that a year now and have decided
that engine could use some improvement. My particular interest is to
add a turbo to the stock engine. I have looked through most of the
relevant back issues on the mailing list to see what others have done
with turbos. Most inquires concerning turbos are directed towards the
twin turbo kit that is available from Turbo Manifold Company. This
looks to me like a good package with many good reports from those that
have installed it. Due to the relatively high price for this kit, I
have decided to look into single turbo options for the DeLorean. A
few times in the back issues I found single turbos suggested as an
alternative to the twin setup, but never were any details included on
how to pursue such an installation. I recall reading that many
DeLorean owners have installed single Garrett, Rayjay, or BAE turbos.
(I have heard that there was once a single BAE turbo kit made for the
DeLorean. Unfortunately they are now unavailable.)
Can anyone give me any information and/or details on how to install
a single turbo? Here some examples of the kind of things I am looking
for:
- Copies of the diagrams for the now unavailable BAE kit.
- An uninstalled BAE kit sitting in someone's garage. (Yeah right!)
- Information/diagrams for proven custom designs.
- Pictures of installations.
- Is there a Volvo turbo made for the PRV-6?
- Sources for manifold interconnect.
- How to deal with the cat and muffler.
- Intercooler or none.
I would appreciate any leads or information. Please contact me on
or off line as appropriate.
Thanks,
Luke Soasey
VIN:4955
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:11:41 PDT
From: "John Dore" <dmcjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: DML Never believe a photo!
Hi John!
I agree, the guy who wrote that article about the DeLorean is an
asshole! His name is Quentin Wilson and he works for a British TV
program called "Top Gear", which is about cars. While the other
presenter talks about interesting cars like Porsche's or Ferrari's,
Quentin talks about the latest family sedan that can do 60miles per
gallon...
He doesn't know anything about sports cars but yet wrote a book about
them! I think the DML should send him a lot of e-mails! I'll
try and get his address of the top gear homepage.
The car that was photographed belongs to Dave Howarth in England and he
also has a web page on the net which is new and pretty good. I doubt
he'd have let the car be photographed if he knew what Quentin was going
to say about it!
John Dore
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:03:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: illyana delorean <illyanadmc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: KPH speedo
WARNING: not *too* Delorean-related
hey! i was searchin' through the archives for the 4speed thread that i
had supposedly started with my post (and missed ;<), and i saw some
stuff that i had missed about the 140 MPH speedometer. im assuming
that the normal Delorean speedo was not a 140 MPH, but that the 140
MPH was a rarity. anyway, i was lookin' at a website earlier today
that sported a picture of a canadian Delorean with a KPH speedo.
anyway, i know that canadians arent the only ones that use KPH, thats
just where the car was from, but i was wondering if those of us in the
states could order KPH speedometers for our cars. not just Deloreans,
but ANY car.
i understand that its not for the list, so could someone write to me
personally and tell me if i could order a KPH speedo for my car
(Honda) and how much it might be? i just think thatd be cool.
<-illyana->
_________________________________________________________
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:53:37 -0400
From: "DMCJoe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??
Claude,
I want to make a correction to my last reply to you. I had mentioned
connecting the brown wire to B+, I should have said D+.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:53:47 -0400
From: "DMCJoe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Radio inline fuse
Sean,
Here's the route of your radio memory fuse wire. Fuse # 17, pink wire to
the cigar lighter, pink wire from cigar lighter to digital clock, pink
wire
from clock to fuse holder and than on to your radio. In some cars the wire
changes color between the clock and fuse holder. If you still can't find
this wire let me know and I'll dig into my archives for the wire color for
your VIN#.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:47:05 EDT
From: Phillip124@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Re: courtesy fuse blowing
Joe,
At first I was using 10A like it said it the manual, but after about 3 I
tried a 15 which blew also.
Brock
On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, you wrote:
>Brock,
>What size fuse are you using.
>Joe/DeLorean Services
I had the same problem and it would even blow 30Amp fuses. The worse
thing
about blowing fuses was when the engine compartment light was on. When
the
doors are open it blows fuses pretty fast, after 5 minutes or so.
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:09:20 -0400
From: "DMCJoe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Re: clutch problems?
Mike,
Noticed your post and wanted to tell you that you were correct in all
aspects of the clutch problem except slave and master cylinder failures.
Our experience has shown a 4 to 1 failure rate of slave to master
cylinders.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:58:01 -0500
From: Thomas Bohmier <Bohmier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
Luke:
May I offer an alternative that I keep hearing about. A machine shop can
remove both of the heads, modify the cams, enlarge the valves and probably
a few more items. All of this will set you back a few thousand and
increase the horse power from 130 to about 200 without the stress that
turbos have been known to add.
Happy Racing!
Thomas Bohmier
Luke Soasey wrote:
> Hello,
(SNIP)
>
> I would appreciate any leads or information. Please contact me on
> or off line as appropriate.
>
> Thanks,
> Luke Soasey
> VIN:4955
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:42:37 -0600 (MDT)
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
Re the following:
>May I offer an alternative that I keep hearing about. A machine shop can
>remove both of the heads, modify the cams, enlarge the valves and probably
>a few more items. All of this will set you back a few thousand and
>increase the horse power from 130 to about 200 without the stress that
>turbos have been known to add.
- -------------------------------------------------
I have heard some hp figures tossed around rather loosely, but I know of
no
one who has done this sort of tweaking and gained 70 PROVEN HP. If anyone
has, I would really like to see an article on what was done.
Most of the turbo's are not producing 200 HP. If you hold the boost to
less than 7 Lbs., the engine appears to not suffer any adverse reactions.
The ACTUAL HP gain in such circunstances will produce somewhat less than
200 HP.
Unless one is going for major HP gains, the engine will suffer more from
how one drives and maintains the car than from the HP gain.
My $.02
Dick Ryan
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 01:45:48 EDT
From: WtrResQ@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: anlge drive and warm engine
ok, help from anyone online wood be great. these are my 2 problems.
1) my angle drive "support"?, it looks like a thick piece of coat hanger,
just
broke off and now my anle drive is making a "creeek, creeek" noise. is
there
no cure for the angle drive problems? i hope that i am talkin bout the
right
thing. its gold in color and is located on the inside of the left front
wheel, attached to the center of the wheel???
2)ok, the other problem im having is my car starts up fine when cold, and
fine
when hot, but when my car is warm(say i go in to a place for lunch and
return
to the car) the car is hard to start. fuel accumulator?? uh, feul
leak? i
have a newer style fuel pump...
ok....thx again, anyone.
james
10470 CA/ "STAINLS"
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 23:24:32 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: keys
At 07:14 PM 8/25/98 EDT, you wrote:
>Mr. Seiler,
>
>I did not intend that you are involved in profiteering....<
I like the sound of that! "Lee the profiteer"
Not enough profiteers around these days if you ask me!
BTW I was not offended in any way by your first post.
I am working on just two DeLorean related projects these days, the keys
and
the
limited edition DMC Kits. Please let me assure you that I am very aware of
the basics of business and bulk price breaks.
Thanks for your thoughts and support.
Lee
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 23:34:03 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: DML Never believe a photo!
At 06:11 PM 8/25/98 PDT, you wrote:
>Hi John!
>I agree, the guy who wrote that article about the DeLorean is an
>asshole! His name is Quentin Wilson and he works for a British TV
>program called "Top Gear", which is about cars. While the other
>presenter talks about interesting cars like Porsche's or Ferrari's,
>Quentin talks about the latest family sedan that can do 60miles per
>gallon...
>He doesn't know anything about sports cars but yet wrote a book about
>them! I think the DML should send him a lot of e-mails! I'll
>try and get his address of the top gear homepage.
>
>The car that was photographed belongs to Dave Howarth in England and he
>also has a web page on the net which is new and pretty good. I doubt
>he'd have let the car be photographed if he knew what Quentin was going
>to say about it!
>
>John Dore
>
comment:
After reading the article thread it is quite clear that the author Quentin
Wilson Knows little or nothing about the DeLorean, My suggestion would be
to contact the publisher, (as many DML members as might wish this) and
send
letters pointing out both the errors in the article and suggesting a
publishers correction. A positive approach is much more likely to get
printed than a negative one.
How about the publishers address as well?
Lee
BTW
I don't have a problem with opinions that are negative in so far as the
DeLorean are concerned, but I just hate it when they are based on
incorrect
information.
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:23:42 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
At 10:42 PM 8/25/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Re the following:
>I have heard some hp figures tossed around rather loosely, but I know
of
>no
>one who has done this sort of tweaking and gained 70 PROVEN HP. If anyone
>has, I would really like to see an article on what was done.
>
>Most of the turbo's are not producing 200 HP. If you hold the boost to
>less than 7 Lbs., the engine appears to not suffer any adverse reactions.
>The ACTUAL HP gain in such circunstances will produce somewhat less than
>200 HP.
>
>Unless one is going for major HP gains, the engine will suffer more from
>how one drives and maintains the car than from the HP gain.
>
>My $.02
>
>Dick Ryan
>
reply:
Hi DR,
I tend to agree as a general rule, but I think it is worth mentioning this
as well.
Houston has racks of complete engines, and if maxing out on reliable HP is
a goal, and assuming that the DMC owner were willing to invest in such a
project. There is a lot that can be done to reach the magic 200HP level.
Many years ago I used to be interested in Airboats to the point of
building
one using the corvair engine. Here in California ( Freemont to be exact)
was a place called the speed shop. There was no aspect of internal engine
functions that could not be improved. A first step was blue-printing the
engine, then the modification of parts and systems until every last drop
of
power was achieved. There are always trade offs, the more power for a
given
engine the less reliable it can become.
So for the delorean "Original engine" I suspect that given the basic
design
adding or more accurately getting 70HP is not the problem so much as what
it takes to accomplish the task.
I won't go into all the "souping up vernacular", my opinion is that 200HP
is available it's just a matter of approach and cost.
Lee
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 04:39:23 EDT
From: WtrResQ@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: wheels and tires
hello all,
anyone out there know who ones the "D" that ive seen on someones page in
the
"D" link pages, that has after market rims and tires? i dont realy want
to
change the wheels although larger wheels w/ shorter wall tires probly
would
handle better. my local tire shops have expressed a difficulty in
obtaining
"V" rated tires for the car. mu understanding is that the hard tires to
find
in a "v" rating are the smaller front tires....
anyone else out there who has found the same problem and advise on a tire
choice , or selection/advise on aftermaket rims and tires would be great.
james,
10470
"STAINLS"
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 04:44:24 EDT
From: WtrResQ@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Radio inline fuse
ive seen several emails about mentioning the "clock " and now u describe
the power going to the clock them the radio...isnt the clock in the
radio??
and if so, it keeps a seperate power line?? just a question, cause im
interested in replacinf my stock radio.
thx,
james
10470
"STAINLS"
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 06:27:45 -0400
From: "Mike Thomas" <comptrol@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Yokohama tires
Just a note - I bought Yoko AVS intermediates for my D a couple of =
months ago from Tire Shack. The first person I talked to said the =
fronts were in stock but the rears were backordered big time. I called =
back and got someone else who had to do a little more searching but they =
had 'em. Incidentally they perform really well so far. I'll let you =
guys know how they fare in snow, which will probably only be a couple of =
months here in Massachusetts.
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 03:58:03 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: angle drive and warm engine
At 01:45 AM 8/26/98 EDT, you wrote:
>ok, help from anyone online wood be great. these are my 2 problems.
>
>1) my angle drive "support"?, it looks like a thick piece of coat hanger,
>just
>broke off and now my anle drive is making a "creeek, creeek" noise. is
>there
>no cure for the angle drive problems? i hope that i am talkin bout the
>right
>thing. its gold in color and is located on the inside of the left front
>wheel, attached to the center of the wheel???
Reply: Yes you are talking about the right thing. You will need to replace
that bracket ASAP, in the mean time it would be a good Idea to disconnect
the lower speedo cable. When you get the part, be sure to lubricate the
angle drive and the drive cup that is under the wheel hub. The lubrication
goes on just the small square hole only! If you do not get some
lubrication
inside the angle drive it will fail very quickly.
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:33:30 -0400
From: "Ronald Pohala" <rpohala@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: New engine
I have just had a rebuilt engine put in my car. Overheating destroyed the
last one. Big mistake.
Does anyone know a site I can go to with the listing of all the updates
that would help to get car in tip top shape aNd not ruin another engine.
Thanks Ron
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 98 05:13:06 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Air scoops (was Re: DML: Keys)
Lee the Profiteer wrote:
>I am working on just two DeLorean related projects these days, the keys and
>the limited edition DMC Kits. Please let me assure you that I am very aware of
>the basics of business and bulk price breaks.
Does this mean the turbo-style sccops are dead, or just on hold?
James=
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:20:45 -0700
From: "Tito A. Lugtu" <TALugtu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
Greetings to everyone!
I have a D (#004546) with a single turbo charger on it (by BAE from
DeLorean
Motor Center) ... the HP increase kicks-in at 2500 - 3000 rpm ... don't
know
how many horses are added ... but at 5th gear while approaching 2500 rpm
...
I feel the jump like going to lightspeed <:-) ...
In HIS Peace.
tito
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:08:53 +0000
From: Albert Siegel <siegel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean club in Miami
Hello everyone!!! This Saturday is the next meeting of the South
Florida DeLorean Group. It will take place at 7:00pm. If you own a
DeLorean (even if you dont) and wish to go, i will need you to contact
me before 9:00pm Friday. It will take place in the Miami Kendall area.
Hope to see you there!!
Albert Siegel
305-378-2197
siegel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 07:39:03 +0000
From: ausmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: angle drive and warm engine
Hi,
> Reply: Yes you are talking about the right thing. You will need to replace
> that bracket ASAP, in the mean time it would be a good Idea to disconnect
> the lower speedo cable.
This is more of a "don't Panic" than anything else. The bracket
mentioned broke off on my first "D" at around 15K and was never
replaced. When I sold the car at 67K it had not been replaced, the
lower cable had, and I had never had a problem with the angle drive.
This was long before the "DML" existed.
Chris
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:02:34 -0600 (MDT)
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
Further to this thread:
Please don't misunderstand me. Getting the 70 Hp, OR MORE, is not
impossible nor even particularly difficult. But the comment here was to
maintain a reliable engine PRESUMABLY so that the car could be driven in a
somewhat normal fashion. Given that, I stand by my comments; i.e., a mild
cam change, "porting and relieving", headers and the like don't typically
produce a 50% increase in HP. Sure, if you want to go with a very
aggressive cam, change bore and stroke, add a high flow fuel pump with
appropriate injectors, etc, it is possible. However, you won't have a car
you will want to drive on the street and the engine will probably be a
heck
of a lot more tempermental that one with the addition of a turbocharger
$.02 more
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 03:22:56 +0100
From: "Martin Gutkowski (UK)" <martin.is@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
The Renault Alpine GT-Turbo used the 2.5litre version of the PRV-6 and I
know of a car with an alpine turbo in it. The part should ba available
through a European dealer, I could find out if you'd like,
Martin
Luke Soasey wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have been a "closet-reader" of the DeLorean Mailing List for about
> a year now. The information I have gathered from the messages has
> been useful in more than one occasion. Thanks for all the help. I'm
> going to ask one of my own questions today...
(SNIP)
> Can anyone give me any information and/or details on how to install
> a single turbo? Here some examples of the kind of things I am looking
> for:
>
> - Copies of the diagrams for the now unavailable BAE kit.
> - An uninstalled BAE kit sitting in someone's garage. (Yeah right!)
> - Information/diagrams for proven custom designs.
> - Pictures of installations.
> - Is there a Volvo turbo made for the PRV-6?
> - Sources for manifold interconnect.
> - How to deal with the cat and muffler.
> - Intercooler or none.
>
> I would appreciate any leads or information. Please contact me on
> or off line as appropriate.
>
> Thanks,
> Luke Soasey
> VIN:4955
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 03:36:33 +0100
From: "Martin Gutkowski (UK)" <martin.is@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: DML Never believe a photo!
Can people please give me details of this article - I admit I haven't been
following the thread too closely. I have a mate who works at the BBC and
might
be able to "find" me the right contact to complain to. Top Gear may be
interested in re-dressing the balance by doing a feature on the D. When
all's
said and done, it is THE show to watch about cars over here...
I vaguely recall a conversation with Dave about someone from a magazine
taking
a D for a test run, and was simply scared of putting his toe down. The
car he
was driving had headers fitted and it flew. It still got a bad write-up
:-(
With the web page now up and looking pretty, and the owners club is
prospering, I've been wondering for a while about contacting the "beeb".
I'll
be sure to mention the sheer volume of support for the car worldwide (not
least through the DML).
Best Wishes all,
Martin
PS The DOC UK site is maintained by me as my way of getting involved
without
actually having a DeLorean.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:27:14 EDT
From: ROBLAMROCK@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Re: DML Never believe a photo!
In a message dated 8/26/98 12:08:03 PM GMT, you write:
<< After reading the article thread it is quite clear that the author
Quentin
Wilson Knows little or nothing about the DeLorean, My suggestion would be
to contact the publisher, (as many DML members as might wish this) and
send letters pointing out both the errors in the article and suggesting a
publishers correction. A positive approach is much more likely to get
printed than a negative one. How about the publishers address as well?
>>
"The Ultimate Classic Car Book" by Quentin Willson with David Selby is
published by Dorling Kindersley, 9 Henrietta Street, Covent Garden, London
WC2E 8PS.
Tel. 0171 836 5411 Fax. 0171 836 7570
Dave Howarth did indeed lend the publishers his car for the photographs
and
got a free copy of the book for his trouble. I can tell you he was pretty
angry when he read the text! He had supplied two pages of correct
information
which they didn't use.
My guess is that Willson was paid to put his name to the book, he didn't
write
it, some other idiot did!
Robert Lamrock
Belfast
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:33:42 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: Re: DML: wheels and tires
WtrResQ@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> hello all,
>
> anyone out there know who ones the "D" that ive seen on someones page in
> the
> "D" link pages, that has after market rims and tires? i dont realy want
> to
> change the wheels although larger wheels w/ shorter wall tires probly
> would
> handle better. my local tire shops have expressed a difficulty in
> obtaining
> "V" rated tires for the car. mu understanding is that the hard tires to
> find
> in a "v" rating are the smaller front tires....
>
> anyone else out there who has found the same problem and advise on a tire
> choice , or selection/advise on aftermaket rims and tires would be great.
>
> james,
> 10470
> "STAINLS"
Rob Grady @ PJ Gradys has put larger diameter wheels with lower profile
tires on his Green DeLorean. I really liked the look of his car.
Contact Rob to find out what he did.
Scott
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:36:28 EDT
From: KayoOng@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: wheels and tires
James,
As it stands date August 26.1998. The only tires that are "V" rated for
the
fronts and rears in the "correct sizes" are Yokohomas and Pirellis that is
available off the shelf (correct me if I am wrong). All other brands
that I
know of are either front or rear "V" rated, not both. "H" is 130 MPH
rated.
It is common and available in brands.
Besides, our DeLoreans do not operate above 130 MPH, or does it? I would
like
to see or find one that can beside the #502 "The Legend." Then these 130
MPH
DeLoreans will put an end to the fact that the DeLorean is a slow or a low
"top end" performer. This has always been the talk or the topic of this
marque as a sports car (who cares, I still love it).
The point is: "V" rated is 149 MPH, do we really need "V" rated tires?
Or "H"
tires will do for it is availability and for its general road performance?
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic 9D NY
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:37:51 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: Re: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> At 10:42 PM 8/25/98 -0600, you wrote:
> >Re the following:
> >I have heard some hp figures tossed around rather loosely, but I know
> of
> >no
> >one who has done this sort of tweaking and gained 70 PROVEN HP. If anyone
> >has, I would really like to see an article on what was done.
> >
> >Most of the turbo's are not producing 200 HP. If you hold the boost to
> >less than 7 Lbs., the engine appears to not suffer any adverse reactions.
> >The ACTUAL HP gain in such circunstances will produce somewhat less than
> >200 HP.
> >
> >Unless one is going for major HP gains, the engine will suffer more from
> >how one drives and maintains the car than from the HP gain.
> >
> >My $.02
> >
> >Dick Ryan
> >
Steve Wynne at DMC Houston has souped up Bill Swilleys stock engine.
They port matched the heads, changed the cams and get 170 to 180 hp.
The K & N Filter setup that others on the list have spoke about will
give you free HP. My car in stock form goes fast enough to get me
tickets if I'm not carefull. I think that if I had more HP, not only
would the car go faster, but my insurance rates would go UP faster too.
Scott
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:50:54 -0700
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Air scoops (was Re: DML: Keys)
Lee
I, too, hope that the scoops are not dead. You see, I have this great
winter project .......
Dick Ryan
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:18:07 PDT
From: "John Dore" <dmcjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean Expo '98!
Hi DeLorean Fans!
I'm going to the DeLorean Expo '98 in September and if there is someone
in the San Francisco area who would also like to go, within 20 miles or
so, I'll pick you up and bring you down. No, I don't have a DeLorean
yet!...It would be cool to go with someone who is as interested in the
car as I am!
Or, if you have a DeLorean and are travelling down alone, and live
within 100 miles of San Francisco could I drive to your home and travel
down with you? I'll pay for all the fuel!
Mail me back at: dmcjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx or reply to the mailing list if you
think you can help me out!
Thanks
John Dore
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