dmcnews-digest Thursday, July 23 1998 Volume 03 : Number 391
In this issue:
Re: DML: On the road!
DML: Bleeding Cooling System
Re: DML: Epoxy Rustproofing of Frame
Re: DML: Apparent cracked exhaust manifold....
DML: More pictures from Cinn.
Re: DML: Hot weather
DML: Re: On the road!
Re: DML: easier windshield washer pump solution
DML: DELOREAN OWNERS
Re: DML: DOC Website
DML: fiberglass repair
Re: DML: fiberglass repair
DML: Cinci Pictures
DML: bushing
Re: DML: Hot weather DeLorean driving (was: Parts cross
DML: Re: Bleeding Cooling System
DML: DeLorean Expo '98 - Los Angeles
DML: New URL
DML: Dashboard and black trim (was: Hot weather DeLorean driving)
Re: DML: DOC Website
DML: Shipping Costs
Re: DML: DeLorean Expo '98 - Los Angeles
Re: DML: Hot weather DeLorean driving (was: Parts cross
DML: Central New Jersey Events
Re: DML: DOC Website
DML: DeLorean on tv, catch it
DML: Coolant Pressure tester
DML: Biloxi, MS meeting
Re: DML: DeLorean Expo '98 - Los Angeles
Re: DML: Coolant Pressure tester
DML: DOC Website
DML: DeLorean Trading Card
Re: DML: Coolant Pressure tester
DML: New horns are working finally!
DML: Catalytic Converter
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:18:00 EDT
From: JSteuben@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: On the road!
Hi,
I use a product that 'Mother's' makes called "Back to Black". Aside from
the
smell (cherry soda?) and the fact that it doesn't last very long, it looks
great on all of the black paint and black chrome on the car. I get it at
Pep
Boys, but it must be available a most auto-chain stores.
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:47:04 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Bleeding Cooling System
Yesterday, my friend Duke drove his DeLorean over to my house. On the
way over, it over heated. It was typical Mobile Alabama weather, 95F+
and high humidity. His gauge hit 220 and the fans came on at 185. We
connected a hose from the bleed screw and put the other end in the
header bottle. We had air bleeding for about 30 minutes. We did notice
that the heater bleed hose did not have water flowing into the header
bottle. The heater valve is suppose to be open at all times except when
the AC is in the max position. Unfortunatly, the heater valve is
located below the distributor, so we can not see it. Has anyone had
problems with there heater valve or had to replace it? Did you have to
pull the intake manifold? I think that there may be some air still
traped because of the closed valve, or perhapes the heater bleed line is
plugged.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Scott Mueller
vin 2981
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:59:33 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Epoxy Rustproofing of Frame
Just inspect the frame (or have it inspected) on a regular basis. Patch
it as needed.
I think I would have to be pretty desperate before I purchase the
PermaFrame simply because it has not been crash tested. From what I
understand, Not to may of those frames have been sold as of yet. I
guess this is due to the price.
I wonder what their liability is on something like that? If Pearce
Design is serious about selling those things, I'd like to see some crash
test results. On the other hand, you would have to wreck a dozen or so
Deloreans to do that..... That would really suck!
The trick may be to re-coat your entire frame before you have a
problem.. Someone on the list used Rhino Lining to do this?? How'd
that car come out?
Mike Substelny wrote:
> I predict that in 10-20 years we are all going to be considering buying
> those stainless "PermaFrame" frames from Pearce Design.
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:28:04 -0500
From: Duke <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Apparent cracked exhaust manifold....
If its EXTREMELY loud, check to make sure that the Lamda probe is firmly
attached. (located on the exhaust pipe just before the cat) When I had
my cat
gutted, they left this off completely (by accident) and it was LOUD!
Hope this helps,
Duke
> At 03:34 PM 7/18/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >OK, how much does this cost? What do I have to do to rectify this and not
> >embarrass myself in front of prospective buyers? Here's the deal...car
> >runs
> >real loud (sounds like a VW) and you can feel the exhaust by holding your
> >hand to the forward left side of the engine bay (by the firewall).
> >Prospective buyer identifies it as a cracked header.
> >
> >HELP!
> >Please reply not only to the list but also to me personally...
> >Tim Hansen
> >thansen@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >#4761
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:57:04 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: More pictures from Cinn.
http://remus.rutgers.edu/~mxl/dmc/cinn/cin.html
If your not sick of them yet.....
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:28:00 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Hot weather
Save yourself a lot of cursing and remove the anti sway bar brackets which
will allow the sway bar to drop allowing a lot more room to remove your
radiator assembly. Also, be cautious with the soft brass refrigerant hose
connections at the condenser.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:52:38 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: On the road!
Your idle surges and rough running is more likely a CO mixture adjustment.
If you would like to attempt this adjustment yourself give me a call and
I'll walk you through it. I can also help you complete your FanZilla
install. To bring your sunshade, license plate trim, and air louvers to
factory new use Krylon Semi-Flat Black.
Joe/DeLorean Services 770 631-4800
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:38:56 -0500
From: Duke <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: easier windshield washer pump solution
I may have somewhat of an easier fix for this problem. My washer pump
went
out years ago but I just decided to fix it this past weekend. (thanks to
Scott Muller who got me on 'fix everything on the car' kick!!) I bought
a
universal washer pump from AutoZone for around $11.00. I removed the
container to gain acces to the washer bottle and motor. I removed the
water
line from the stock washer motor and connected this line to the 'out' of
the
universal washer motor. I then connected one end of a hose (that came
with
the kit) to the 'in' of the universal washer motor and then connected the
other in to the nipple of the stock washer motor. This sucks the water
from
the bottle and feeds it through the new universal motor and it works
GREAT!!!!!
Hope this helps,
Duke
CarlIanNew@xxxxxxx wrote:
> I have implemented the following windshield washer pump solution for
> those who do not need an original replacement.
>
(SNIP)
> Good luck & use caution.
> Email if more details are needed.
>
> thanks,
> carl
>
> DOA #5138
> VIN 1704
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:25:37 EDT
From: FerrisBuh@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: DELOREAN OWNERS
Hello everyone,
I brought my Delorean to Delorean Motor Center in May. It was about time
for
piece of mind, so I had about $7000 worth of preventive work done. I use
my
car as an everyday driver, and can't afford to be without it. Included in
my
long line of upgrades and replacements was an array of hoses, and a water
pump. Also, I had Don Steiger repaint the trim. Well, I went back to DMC a
week later, to have some touch-up work done on the paint, and when I
picked up
my car the next week, on my way home, was waved over by half of the
traffic on
interstate 91 in California. I stepped out of the car to the immediate
smell
of coolant (fresh coolant too). I looked closer, and sadly, it was the new
water pump, and could only be a bad bearing. Beyond my realm of freeway
fixing.
It was late at night, and I was in corona, Ca with a homeless man
helping
me to diagnose the problem (?). After a long search trying to find the
right 7
digits, I called Don who was kind enough to ask me to spend the night at
his
house. I had the car towed there, and watched some movies with Don,
peanuts
and beer served to me. Then, In the morning, Don's daughter woke me up,
and on
that note, we loaded the car with coolant, drove to the shop, and Don
fixed
her. Better, he fixed #5252 on a Saturday,replaced the water pump with a
new
one at no charge, fixed my o-rings for free,and even cooked me breakfast
(perahps the one benefit I should have turned down). I cannot say how
impressed I was. Don went out of his way without doubt, to help me during
a
difficult time. I cannot express my gratitude enough.
Dave Buhler
owner of #5252
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 15:52:00 +0100
From: Pete.J.Smith@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: DOC Website
Nice Site.. If you haven't had a look already, i recomend you do.
Its nice to see something like this in the Uk, maybe I'll buy a D
now
and ship it back with me..! Anybody know what the cost of shipping
is
from the US to UK??
Pete
______________________________ Reply Separator
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Subject: DML: DOC Website
Author: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%ussmtp at ccx400uk
Date: 19/07/98 03:19
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,
I hereby have great pleasure in unveiling the all new DeLorean Owners
Club UK website
http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk
(SNIP)
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:32:01 PDT
From: "Darrin Nieves" <d_nieves@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: fiberglass repair
Is there any way to fix cracks/rips in the plastic part of the DMC's
nose (around the headlights)? Is there such a polymer/expoxy that can
permanently fix it if I apply from behind the bumper or is it a lost
cause?
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:04:29 -0400
From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: fiberglass repair
Darrin,
First, the facia around the headlights is not fiberglass.
Second, yes there is a very good patch material. As
recommended in the DeLorean service notes, 3M 8101
Construction Adhesive works great. The only drawback is
that it sets within about a minute of mixing so you have to
work real fast. Once you've patched & sanded & repainted
you'll never see the difference. I just refinished the
front facia on mine & used this stuff to patch the rips.
Richard
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:45:35 -0400
From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Cinci Pictures
To anyone who has been trying to send piuctures to the
Cincinnati Car Show WEB site
I had the mail to address screwed up, I appologize for the
inconvenience. If you would please resubmit your URL I
promise to get it right this time.
Richard
dmc1219@xxxxxxx
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:57:04 EDT
From: RSRodgers@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: bushing
My bushing gave out about a year ago.
Get a replacement from PJ Grady (about $25 for a nylon replacement) and
you
will have to pull the steering column. If you don't have the Factory
Parts
book, get it or look at the PDF files from the DMC newslist page.
It will take about half a day to pull the column and replace the bushing.
Bob
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:46:11 EDT
From: KayoOng@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Hot weather DeLorean driving (was: Parts cross
Joe,
Thanks for the reply. I had PJ Grady at different times bleed the air
from
the cooling system several times. Replacing all hoses -- first. Changing
thermostat -- second. Changing the reservoir plastic to stainless steel
third. Last time bleeding when the radiator was changed -- the fourth. I
don't think air was my problem. I think the larger metal brass radiator
has
resolved the overheating. I will find out in the next few days to follow.
The weather is promised to be hot all this week in NYC area, this should
be
interesting. This will put the metal brass radiator to test again.
The alternator that I have is the Motorola unit.
I just had a new Optima battery installed 4 weeks ago. This Optima
Battery
replaced a Delco Freedom Maintenance Free 60 Months Battery that is 30
months
old. I must admitted, a big difference between the two batteries in
performance and behavior. The characteristics of the alternator is still
there. It is still weak and slow in charging the new Optima battery too.
The
new battery is better not because it is new, it is just that much better
as
new technology is concern. Its performance show the battery's ability.
It
lasts twice as long in "crawling" traffic, the alternator recharges it in
1/4
of time it took to charge the Delco battery.
I do know the Delco battery line in behavior and characteristics for I
have
used and SOLD the GM Delco Batteries line for over 10 years when use to
retail
and wholesale automotive parts. Anyway, again a big difference, the
Optima is
well worth the investment.
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic. 9D NY
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 20:15:51 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Bleeding Cooling System
Scott,
You have incorrectly bleed the system, you must have pressure in the
coolant lines in order to push out the excess air. Your air bleed hose
must
go to a separate container at ground level and the system sealed i.e.:
header tank cap on and sealed with positive pressure in the system. This
is
accomplished by using a coolant pressure tester or running the engine
until
the temperature gauge just reaches the second white line on your
temperature gauge. The air bleed hose connected to your header tank is
actually connected to the top of your radiator and not to the hot water
valve. The hot water valves
have a zero failure rate, therefore I don't think you need to consider a
replacement. If you look in the engine compartment just behind the left
valve cover you should be able to see it. Be sure that a thin plastic
vacuum line is connected to it.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:16:32 -0500
From: Linda Porter <president@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean Expo '98 - Los Angeles
I would like to invite all readers of the DeLorean Mailing List to attend
the DeLorean Owners Association Expo '98 in Los Angeles, CA. Dates are
Sept.3-6, 1998.
Many exciting events are planned; Technical Seminar sponsored by P.J.
Grady, tour and dinner at the Petersen Automotive Museum sponsored by De
Lorean Motor Company, and Concours DeLorean One. Other choices offered
include L.A. city tour, tour of movie star's homes, brunch at the L.A.
County Arboretum, gala Saturday Banquet, and a Mexican Fiesta Buffet.
Another special tour planned for Friday morning is a visit to the new
Getty
Center. This has been the hottest ticket in L.A. since the Center opened
last December. Reservations must be made months in advance, and we are
lucky to have been able to arrange this time and date to coincide with
Expo
'98.
Headquarters for Expo '98 is the Universal City Hilton and Towers Hotel.
Just a short walk to Universal Studios, Universal Amphitheater, and
Universal City Walk, you will find the location centrally located for
touring many famous Los Angeles places. Group rate for a Standard room is
$128.00 per night. Reservation deadline for the Hotel is August 3.
Reservations after that date will be accepted based on availability at the
prevailing rack rates, so don't wait to reserve your room if you plan to
attend.
You can read more about Expo at our web site:
<http://www.delorean-owners.org>
Click on the Events button at:
<http://www.delorean-owners.org/events/index.html>
and then Click the Expo button in the left frame, or go directly to:
<http://www.delorean-owners.org/events/la.html>
There you will find a registration form that can be mailed or e-mailed to
the Association. Final deadline to sign up for events is August 17th.
Looking forward to seeing many of you in L.A. this Sept. 3-6.
Linda Porter
President-Activities Director
DeLorean Owners Association
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:23:16 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: New URL
Hello All,
The DMC limited edition Model BBS is up and running for it's
first week end. Thanks for the messages and the feed back. The few
problems that appeared are fixed and access is now even faster. If you
would like to stop by with out bothering with the graphics try this-cut
and paste the following into your favorite browser-
http://www.totalimmersion.com/dmcboard/
The BBS is intended to support the Model kits once they are
released and to provide a forum between now and then for feed back on the
assembly instructions and the basic kit preparation. Photos and
illustrations of the kits will begin to appear in the DMC site.
The two areas most may find the most fun are the cartoons/T-shirts and
the National Geographic special Delorean issue. See The DMC in some very
interesting places around the world. More pages from this issue will be
posted from week to week.
I would like to take this opportunity to than ken Montgomery for sending
me the VHS tape of the DMC show! It was just great. I can tell right now
by the tape that my DMC is not in close to show condition. I thought I
was a clean car owner, but after seeing the "D"s at the show, well I will
just stick to driving around. I really was impressed by the painted "D"s
and the custom jobs. I loved the BTTF project, really nice work, the
night shots were exceptional, just a bit of mist coming from the green
lights was all it needed. The show work shops, and the warehouse really
filled out the tape. I love the cutaway "D"! "I wanna Browse the
warehouse"!!!! Seeing so many "D"s out on the road must have shocked many
a driver, Well although I was unable to be there I think I can honestly
say that every one who worked on the show and all the "D" owners that
showed up puts the reason why we own and drive these cars in proper
perspective.
To Ken and every one at the show, many thanks!
Lee
81DMC-12
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 03:24:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: dlwrence@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Dashboard and black trim (was: Hot weather DeLorean driving)
James-the best product to use on the dash is Lexol Vinylex. You can use
it
on plastic, rubber, and vinyl, but NOT leather. Lexol makes an excellent
Leather Cleaner and Conditioner for this purpose. Avoid Armor All (and
any
products that contain silicon) like the plague. Not only will it
eventually
turn the dash brown, it leaves a shiny, greasy finish that I do not care
for. In addition, if you ever stop using it, your dash will dry out and
crack soon after. The Vinylex has UV protectants to prevent dash
cracking
and discoloration.
Yugoman-as above, no silicon! I am not familiar with the product that
you
mentioned, but in my experience, the best black trim product to use is
Black
Again. It gives the rubber a jet-black look, contains UV protectants,
and
is also "activated" by the sunlight. The only problem with it is that it
doesn't last as long as it probably should, so I top coat it with
Meguiars
#42 rubber protectant. This stuff is one of the longest lasting black
trim
products out there.
The above products (and many more) can be purchased at Car Care
Specialties
Inc.
Take some time and read about all the products, tips, and techniques they
offer. I found out about these guys almost by accident, and afterwards
"got
religion" fast. Please let me stress that I am in no way affiliated with
this company nor anyone who works there, I am just a satisfied customer.
If
anyone has anymore questions about car care, please email me and I will
be
more that happy to lend my assistance (I am a detailer).
Peace!
Mike Lawrence
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:41:04 -0400
From: John Hanley <106165.1407@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: DOC Website
Message text written by INTERNET:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Nice Site.. If you haven't had a look already, i recomend you do.
>Its nice to see something like this in the Uk, maybe I'll buy a D now =
>and ship it back with me..! Anybody know what the cost of shipping is =
>from the US to UK??
> =
>
> Pete
Pete from what i can gather British Customs and Excise regard the Value of
a Delorean as =A313,000
so you will be required to pay VAT and customs duty equivilant to 32.5% of
that figure including the shipping.
I understand that shipping is a further $1000 approx.
There are some rules if you are shifting your place of residence from the
US to UK where by you are allowed to import your vehicle however i believe
that you have to prove that the veichle has been in your ownership for
some
time.. ( you cant ship a brand new car at least without penalties). There
is one guy from the UK who has shipped a car from the US he runs the DOA
of
the UK. Martin on the following email address will put you in contact
with this
guy.... msg101@xxxxxxxxxx
Good luck either way...
Im just leaving mine in Arizona the atmosphere is dry there and well i
guess it being so far away it helps keep the mileage down..
Regards
John Hanley # 16369
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:06:50 +0100
From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Shipping Costs
How'ya Peter,
I am looking into shipping costs myself at present. Will take my '81
DeLorean back to N.Ireland via England in October, 1998. Have contacted
a roll-on, roll-off car transportation company called 'RoRo'
<roro@xxxxxxxx> who sail out of a number of East coast ports including
NewYork, Baltimore, Charleston, Brunswick ... They quote US$550 for a
car up to 400cft (DMC 370cft?). They will take my toy to Liverpool but
also sail into Southampton. Have heard bad reports about these non
containerised shippers though ..... any comments, experiences from the
rest?
Cheers, IAN (Hong Kong)
Pete.J.Smith@xxxxxx wrote:
>
> Nice Site.. If you haven't had a look already, i recomend you do.
> Its nice to see something like this in the Uk, maybe I'll buy a D
> now and ship it back with me..! Anybody know what the cost of shipping
> is from the US to UK??
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:10:27 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: DeLorean Expo '98 - Los Angeles
Yeesh!! Looking at
http://www.delorean-owners.org/market/catalog/expo_store.cgi?product=Expo98
We can really appreciate what Ken had done with the show in Cincinnati!
$30 registration fee.. Register for what? For the privilege to pay for
all the other stuff?!
$44.50 each for dinner... Not terrible, but a bit high.
$14.50 each for tech seminar by PJ Grady. I hope most of this money is
going to Rob! I don't think Rob should be doing any charity work for
the DOA. Why should they profit from him?!
$4.00 for the privilege to purchase Delorean products at the Product
fair? This has got to take the cake!! I am sure the DOA will also be
charging the vendors. Making money on both ends, eh??
$20.00 for a tee-shirt?! Cummon! Isn't ANYTHING included in the $30
registration fee?
It would cost about $800 (not including travel expenses) for a companion
and I to attend the DOA expo and get basically the same "stuff" we got
in Cincinnati for about $300. This does not include any of the tourist
attractions that are optional such as universal studios, ect.
This again goes to show me that the DOA is in business to make money. I
would expect this kind of price list from a commercial operation, not a
organization by owners for owners. The URL should be
http://www.delorean-owners.COM
To the DOA board members that may be reading this: If you are sitting
there saying "We don't need him, Who cares what he thinks" Well, That is
what I would expect. If the DOA was really trying to do all the things
a car club is supposed to do, this would not be the case. You are
entitled to run your organization as you wish, but please do not try to
present yourself as a "Association", "Organization", or "Club". You are
a Business for profit!
The situation is just so frustrating! Thanks to people like James and
Ken, we can participate in affordable and reasonable Delorean
activities.
I had a great time in Cincinnati. Looks like I am going to have to wait
until June 2000!
Linda Porter wrote:
>
> I would like to invite all readers of the DeLorean Mailing List to attend
> the DeLorean Owners Association Expo '98 in Los Angeles, CA. Dates are
> Sept.3-6, 1998.
<SNIP>
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:39:11 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Hot weather DeLorean driving (was: Parts cross
Kayo,
Order yourself a cooling system pressure tester available at some auto
parts dealers or JC Whitney for around $100. It will enable you to quickly
bleed air out of your system without even starting your engine and can
also
detect any leaks. Considering the unique trapped air problem with the
DeLorean cooling system this item should have been included with the jack.
Tell me more about the Optima battery i.e.: who is the manufacturer and
where are they available, sounds like a winner!
Joe/DeLorean Services
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> From: KayoOng@xxxxxxx
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: DML: Hot weather DeLorean driving (was: Parts cross
> Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 11:46 PM
>
> Joe,
>
> Thanks for the reply. I had PJ Grady at different times bleed the air from
> the cooling system several times. Replacing all hoses -- first. Changing
> thermostat -- second. Changing the reservoir plastic to stainless steel
> third. Last time bleeding when the radiator was changed -- the fourth. I
> don't think air was my problem. I think the larger metal brass radiator
(SNIP)
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:01:45 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Central New Jersey Events
Sunday July 26 (This sunday) is the Monmouth County Fair classic car
show. The fair is held at East Freehold Park Directions to the park are
at:
http://www.monmouthcounty.com/parks/eastfreeholddir.htm
E-mail me directly if you plan to go. I am considering spending the $10
($7 if you pre-register by friday) to show my DMC, and would love to
have a few others there to attract some attention (and watch eachothers
cars while the others eat!)
And, as usual, the last Thursday of the month will be cruise night in
downtown Freehold. Anyone up for 7/30? again, e-mail me directly.
Thanks,
Marc
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 03:35:00 +0100
From: "Martin Gutkowski (UK)" <martin.is@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: DOC Website
Ring Dave Howarth - I imagine he'll not only give you answers to all your
questions (and more that you didn't even know you asked:-), but also
convince you that having one in the UK is a great idea...
Anyway, please feel free to call him - he's a top chap and ready and
waiting
for people to call him (please mention the website as he's not online and
hasn't seen it)
Cheerio
Martin
Pete.J.Smith@xxxxxx wrote:
> Nice Site.. If you haven't had a look already, i recomend you do.
> Its nice to see something like this in the Uk, maybe I'll buy a D now
> and ship it back with me..! Anybody know what the cost of shipping
> is from the US to UK??
>
> Pete
> (SNIP)
- --
Best Wishes,
Martin
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:06:08 -0400
From: Sean Jones <shain@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean on tv, catch it
Hello,
I was watching autoweek today, and one of their reporters was at a
antique car show.
And behold was a DeLorean and a Bricklin.
Sean
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:50:56 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Coolant Pressure tester
A bit off topic, but has anyone purchased this from JC Whitney? They
have a reputation for selling garbage, but this is a tool that I have
not been able to find anywhere else! Seems the only other way to get it
is to flag down a Snap-on truck!
Joe wrote:
> Order yourself a cooling system pressure tester available at some auto
> parts dealers or JC Whitney for around $100. It will enable you to quickly
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 21:40:33 -0500
From: steve r <stephenr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Biloxi, MS meeting
Some friends and I will be teaming up Aug. 9th, 1998. If anyone
else would like to attend please let me know by email or you can contact
me at (504) 386-3816.
Three owners from Alabama have already stated that they would like
to drive out to Biloxi and I have contacted one Louisiana owner who
wants to attend. There is also an enthusiast who lives in Biloxi that
would like to join in on the fun. I am still trying to get a few more
people to join us.
Just trying to keep everyone posted. If you need more details
please give me a call and I will see what we can figure out. Stay tuned
to the DML as we get closer to the event.
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:22:07 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: DeLorean Expo '98 - Los Angeles
Marc Levy said:
> We can really appreciate what Ken had done with the show in
> Cincinnati!
This is one part of Marc's post with which I readily agree. I have seen
Ken Koncelik at work negotiating for the Cleveland 2000 Car Show, and I
can tell you Ken is *merciless* at squeezing low prices out of his sites!
Convention facilities (like a room to hold a Products Fair or tech
seminar)
cost hundreds or thousands of dollars, and it is not unusual for a
convention to charge admission to cover the cost of the room and
incidentals. The professional engineering conventions I have attended
have charged similar $5 - $20 fees for each technical seminar, vendor's
room, Tshirt, etc..
I wouldn't be so quick to demonize the DOA, which is just charging
prices that are typical for conventions at this type of facility.
Instead I
would be praising Ken for his extraordinary efforts in shopping around
and negotiating deals to keep the price I pay as low as possible.
Also, some people prefer a more luxurious hotel at a more exotic
location. My wife still raves about the Opryland Hotel in Nashville, and
she can't wait to get to the Hilton in Los Angeles.
We'll see you there!
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:10:47 +0000
From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Coolant Pressure tester
Marc A Levy wrote:
> A bit off topic, but has anyone purchased this from JC Whitney? They
> have a reputation for selling garbage, but this is a tool that I have
> not been able to find anywhere else!
>
Over the past 30 years I have ordered many things from JC Whitney and
have been
satisfied with almost everything that I've received. The catalogue does
have a
lot of junk, but unless you order a magnetic fuel ionizer, or a cold
fusion
atomizer, or other "county fair" products, you won't be disappointed.
They are
one of the few sources for a lot of hard to find items. Their tools are
not
Snap-On quality, nor is the price. The odd angle wrenches are K-Mart
quality
but they are adequate for once a month use.
Jim #6884
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:26 +0000
From: "Martin Gutkowski" <mgutkowski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DOC Website
As many of you will know, I have just brought the all-new DeLorean
Owners' Club UK website online. As of last night, my server went down,
but it should be back up (they SAID) by 5:30 tonight (BST). Please feel
free to visit it after then if you have failed to in the last 24 hours.
http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk
BTW, this is my work e-mail address for those who care...
Best Wishes,
Martin
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:50:13 -0400
From: Nathan Gess <72chargerse@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean Trading Card
DML,
Today I posted the only DeLorean Trading Card I've ever seen on my
page. I've never seen one before, and have never heard of one being
discussed. I won't bother to go into details, as they are already on my
page. If your curious, go to
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/7770/ and follow the link.
Hope to hear a response to whether or not this is new to everyone, or
just old news.
Nathan Gess
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/7770/
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:46:55 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Coolant Pressure tester
Marc Levy said (about coolant pressure testers):
> A bit off topic, but has anyone purchased this from JC Whitney?
> They have a reputation for selling garbage, but this is a tool that I
> have not been able to find anywhere else!
This is surprising. I got my pressure tester from my neighborhood
Murray's Autoparts store for about $79.00. It was right off the shelf in
aisle one. I believe the manufacturer is Stant.
It comes with adaptors for various vehicles, but you do not need any of
them for the DeLorean. It is not the sturdiest unit in the world, but it
is
quite adequate for home use. Not only do I use it to bleed & check my the
cooling systems in all my cars, I also use it to pressure check the
radiator
caps on all my cars.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:06:41 -0500
From: Duke <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: New horns are working finally!
In my quest to fix every freakin' thing on this car (once again, thanks
Scott!) I just finished with my horn problem. For those of you
interested, my horns would not work, so I went to my local AutoZone and
bought some replacement horns. (Something with a little more pep)
These were also 12 volt horns. However, a strange problem arose. (a
strange problem on a DeLorean....imagine that!) When I have only one of
the horns hooked up, it would work; when I have both horns hooked up,
all I would get is a 'clicking' noise from them. With a little help
from my arch nemesis yet mentor Scott Muller, we came to the conclusion
that there wasn't enough voltage getting to the horns. Yesterday I set
out to fix this little problem and succeeded. (??) I found the wire
that runs from the horn switch on the steering column to the horns
themselves. I cut the wire and ran a line from the positive terminal
of the battery and touched them together; both horns worked fine!??!! I
then found the wire that was supplying the power to the horn switch and
cut it. I connected the wire from the positive terminal to it and then
hit the switch and they worked fine. Somehow I wasn't getting enough
power from the 'stock' source. Here's another strange thing, no matter
what constant wire I used, (other than the battery itself) all I would
get is the 'clicking' sound. I've decided to run a wire from the
positive terminal and, using a inline fuse, connect this to the wire for
the horn switch.
Thanks for listening,
Duke
(probably soon to be fire victim!)
www.geocities.com/motorcity/8952/delorean.html
(will be updated tomorrow)
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 23:09:50 -0500
From: "C. Longwisch" <CL1954@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Catalytic Converter
Several months ago I posed an inquiry if the DeLorean would possibly pass
an emissions test without the cat converter. The replies I received back
were not from actual tests so I recently took my car with the hollow
(without catalyst) converter to get tested. It failed. I put a new cat on
it and it passed with almost no hydrocarbons or carbonmonoxide. The
following are the results with the without / with and (state standards).
Hydrocarbons ppm 926 / 8 (220)Carbonmonoxide % 0.35 / 0.02 (1.20) ,
Carbonmonoxide+Carbondioxide 10.25 / 13.14 (>6.00 higher better in this
case) .
In summary the car does need the cat to pass Illinois tailpipe test
however
I can tell you after driving the car without the cat it does run better
without the backpressure Butttttttt a reduction in emissions of this
magnitude is impressive and important to the environment! No other changes
were made between tests. The CO was low on the first test because I
"leaned" the mixture but kept it the same setting for the second test.
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