I think many of the early cars were like this.. "DUSTY" has a odd looking texture on the rear pontoons. -----Original Message----- From: Bob & Vicky Miller [mailto:delo1@xxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:21 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [DML] Re: "Black" DeLoreans hello all in reference to the black deloreans/ i have just acquired #686. this car has several thing that make it different from the later ones. the frame# is 265. the coating on the rear pontons is also a different type. if any one has any extra information on this car please let me know .thanx bob miller several vin #s