dmcnews-digest Tuesday, February 2 1999 Volume 03 : Number 476
In this issue:
Re: DML: DMC- Convertible
DML: Re: seat belt warning buzzer
DML: Automatic to 5 Speed
DML: To all Tri-State DeLorean owners and non-owners
DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
Re: DML: DMC- Convertible
DML: Re: Automatic to 5 Speed
DML: Auto Alert
DML: Car Covers
DML: Emissions
Re: DML: Idle thoughts
Re: DML: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
DML: Cold Air with Heater On
DML: Re: Cold Air with Heater On
DML: yellow delorean
DML: RE: DMC convertible
DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
DML: Re: Rear wheel adapter plate
DML: Limited Edition Kits
DML: Re: DMC Convertible
DML: Starting a DeLorean (was Idle Thoughts)
DML: Re: Automatic to 5-Speed
Re: DML: yellow delorean
DML: Re: yellow delorean
DML: Re: Starting a DeLorean (was Idle Thoughts)
DML: Re: yellow DeLorean
DML: Re: Idle thoughts
Re: DML: Re: Idle thoughts
DML: Re: Idle thoughts
DML: Columbus, OH
DML: FYI: DeLorean Mentioning
DML: waterpumps and stuff...
Re: DML: Re: Idle thoughts
DML: JL 8 cards?
Re: DML: RE: DMC convertible
DML: wing span
DML: tire rotation
DML: Rough running....
DML: Looking for a D
Re: DML: wing span
DML: Renting my D
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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:56:21 -0500
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: DMC- Convertible
Joe,
Do you know if he did the sketch for DMC, or was it just a study that
he
did on his own? That may be interesting to know.
Thanks,
Josh
VIN# 5102
DMC Joe wrote:
> Josh,
> The artist is Theodore C. Alexander Jr, an automotive illustrator.
>
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:41:07 -0700
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Re: seat belt warning buzzer
First off, I understand completly how irritating this problem is, but
there
is no reason that you have to HOLLER ; )
The seat belt buzzer is incorporated in the logic box which is mounted on
the steering column under the dash. The logic box has some circuitry in
it
that makes the dash light stay on for approx. 5 seconds when you try to
start the car. If the belt is not connected the buzzer is supposed to
sound
while the light is on. If the belt is connected when you start the car,
the
buzzer will not sound but the light will still come on for the five second
period. Also the buzzer will sound if the keys are in the ignition and
the
door is open.
Check to see if the two door switches are working and the wiring is
connected properly. Also, check to see if all of the connections at the
logic box are clean and tight (You have to stand on your head to work on
this) Straighten the pins in the connector.
I ended up replacing the logic box and straightening the pins in the
connector to get all of the functions working correctly. It took many
phone calls to Steve Wynne (DMC Houston) to trouble shoot my problems.
Steve was very hesitant to sell me a logic box because so few of them have
gone bad.
PS When I installed the new logic box, I placed a piece of masking tape
over the "speaker" so the noise emitted was not so obnoxious.
Scott Mueller
Mobile, AL
1981/002981 DOA-5031 DMCNEWS
Contact me about the "Deep South DeLorean Owners Club"
www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/aaanothe.htm
Remember April 3, 1999 - Camillia Classic Car Show in Mobile Alabama
May 1, 1999 - Blount British Car Show, Townsend TN
- -----Original Message-----
From: Brad Fudge
Subject: DML: seat belt warning buzzer
>MY SEAT BELT WARNING SIGNAL IS INTERMITTENT. AT TIMES, EVEN THOUGH MY =
>SEAT BELT IS BUCKLED THE WARNING BUZZER (SIGNAL) WILL CONTINUE TO SOUND. =
> THE SOUND IS OBNOXIOUS! I HAVE CONSIDERED DISCONNECTING THE WARNING =
>BUZZER. DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW? I WOULD MUCH RATHER REPLACE THE FAULTY =
>PART (SENDING UNIT) DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE
Snip
I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY HELP.
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:00:46 +0100
From: Mats Karlsson <ford.prefect@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Automatic to 5 Speed
Hi all.
I just have a question...
I have always been a lover of manual transmissions, and now it seems
that I might be able to get a really good deal on a 1981 Automatic D.
Has anyone ever tried an Automatic to manual conversion? And if so, is
it difficult? Are the parts available?
Please excuse me if this question is silly, but I'm not exactly a
mechanic...
Thanks,
Matt
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:27:55 -0500
From: "DOUG T VENNER" <DMC12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: To all Tri-State DeLorean owners and non-owners
This is way in advance but I would like to spark interest before the show
season begins. My British car club (Positive Earth Drivers Club) is
hosting
our second annual car show July 25, 1999. It is held in Lavallette NJ, on
the bay-front. We had 70 cars attend our club's first ever show last
year. I
would love to have some DeLorean's attend. I will be there with mine.
E-mail
me for any further info. Also, I would love to get together with other D
owners. I have met some of you guys over the years, but would love it if
we
could all get together maybe once a month, once a season, or whatever.
E-mail me with any interest.
Thanx
Doug Venner NJ
83 DeLorean #16880
71 MG BGT
78 MG Midget
85 Fiero GT
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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 15:35:37 -0700
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
During the late 70's and early 80's, the Federal Government in an effort
to
get us to slow down and conserve fuel, mandated that cars could only have
speedo's that showed a maximum speed of 85 mph.
Makes a lot of since, doesn't it.
The speedo is magneticaly coupled, it will not be damaged at higher
speeds.
As for maximum speed, it depends on how the engine is tuned. Some claim
that 140+ is possible.
Scott Mueller
Mobile, AL
1981/002981 DOA-5031 DMCNEWS
Contact me about the "Deep South DeLorean Owners Club"
www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/aaanothe.htm
Remember April 3, 1999 - Camillia Classic Car Show in Mobile Alabama
May 2, 1999 - Blount British Car Show, Townsend TN
- -----Original Message-----
From: Tris Harvey-Rice
Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 10:11 AM
Subject: DML: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
The Delorean's 2.8L engine must =
>be able to well above 85 - does anyone know why the dial had such a low =
>maximum? Has anyone gone beyond 85 in a DeLorean with an original =
>speedo? Did the needle go past 85 or get stuck??
>
>I worry about these things!
>
>Tris
>No VIN. *waaaa *
>------------------
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:44:53 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
Tris,
During the late 70's, during the oil embargo, the US government
implemented
many rules and regulations in order to reduce fuel consumption. Government
buildings turned off all unnecessary lighting to reduce power consumption,
speed limits were limited to 55 MPH, and auto manufacturers were ordered
to
limit speedometers to 85 MPH. I'm sure most DeLorean drivers have driven
their cars in excess of 85 MPH, when they do the speedo will just peg at
85. The DeLorean is capable of 125 plus, many owners have exchanged their
speedo's to the 140 and 160 upgrades.
Hope we have answered all of your questions.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:48:31 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: DMC- Convertible
Josh,
He drew the pictures because of a personal interest in the car and not for
DMC.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:16:38 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Automatic to 5 Speed
Matt,
A trans conversion requires frame, gear shift linkage, and electrical
modifications. Very labor intensive and very expensive.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:46:16 -0500
From: Joe Palatinus <jpalatinus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Auto Alert
I was reading on of my De Gull Wings from 1987, and I found a very
interesting piece of equitment. It is called The auto alert voice warning
system. It conects to all of your gauges and tells you that you gas in
low, or the engine temp is too high. I was just curious if anyone had one
of these devices, or if anyone knows where you could get one of these
devices today.
Thanks
Joe P.
VIN 6808
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:05:42 EST
From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Car Covers
Hey everyone,
My two cents worth on Car Covers! Go to your friendly local Wal-Mart, and
back in the Auto Center, you will find a cover by a company called BUDGE.
On
the back of any box you will actually see the DeLorean listed. I believe
the
correct size is #2, and is UNDER $20.00. I bought one last year, and you
might think that it was a custom cover, the fit is so good.
Jeff Cox
VIN# 5705
IN2TIME
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:07:05 EST
From: Mike03062@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Emissions
The solution to your emission problems is to move to New Hampshire, where
we
no longer have emission testing. Actually one does not need a title for
any
vehicle over 10 years old here. In fact I have helped out a few Old Car
Enthusiasts with title problems (only people I know to be honest, of
course)
BTW has anyone checked out the "D" Parts car in January Hemmings? It's
in
Texas.
Mike03062@xxxxxxx
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:14:13 -0800
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Idle thoughts
At 05:39 PM 1/29/99 EST, you wrote:
>>>You should feel very lucky that you car contains the Bosch K-Jetronic Fuel
>System. This is by far the simplest and one of the most reliable fuel
>injection system ever developed. <<
>
>Simple? Then why does it take up 45 pages in the Manual?!
>( You're kiddin' me, right?)
>
>Anyway, I didn't hear any viable suggestions from anyone here as to how
> to diagnose or fix a "simple" high idle problem, so I really have to
> question how easy and simple this system is.
>
reply:
It's not hard at all,
On top of the manifold are 3 adjusting screws.
The throttle body on the PRV V-6 engine contains an air adjusting screw
and
two air balancing screws. To adjust the idle start the engine and run it
until it has reached normal working temperature ( when cooling thermostat
opens. Check that the engine is 775 +/- 50RPM and runs smoothly. Check
ignition timing at 13 Degrees +/- at 775 and adjust if necessary. Rev the
engine to 2000RPM and check that t5he timing is about 40 degrees B.T.D.C.
Using idle speed screw common to both banks, adjust the idle speed to 950
RPM.Check Dwell operation for duty cycle is 50% +/- 3.0 degrees. The re
adjust idle speed screw to 825 to 900 RPM.
Full fuel, emission and exhaust system operation and adjustment can be
found starting at D:01:01to D:10:01 in your manual.
Lee
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:16:26 -0500
From: Dan <dan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
On Sat, Jan 30, 1999 at 08:45:33PM -0000, Tris Harvey-Rice wrote:
> The Delorean's 2.8L engine must =
> be able to well above 85 - does anyone know why the dial had such a low =
> maximum?
There was a law in the USA at the time that mandated that all speedometers
had to stop at 85 and have a clearly defined marking at 55. (55 was the
national speed limit from 1973 to 1995.) An 85mph speedo was required
from 79 to 86 or so. My friend had a Buick with a digital speedometer,
when you passed 85 it just flashed 85 at you.
Dan
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:47:04 -0700 (MST)
From: brock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Cold Air with Heater On
Whenever I turn my heater on, I start to get a large cold air draft from
the passenger side footwell. So far I haven't been able to tell where it
is coming from. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any ideas?
Thanks,
Brock Williams
#02680
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:15:49 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Cold Air with Heater On
Brock,
This is a common problem and is easy to fix. The only special tool
required
is a long slender (human) arm. Working from the drivers foot well reach
into the opening just to the right of the accelerator pedal towards the
open space between the firewall and air plenum. With the heater on you
should feel cold air coming from that area. The source of the cold air is
an opening that should be sealed by a piece of foam rubber attached to the
air plenum. This foam seal is partially detached because the adhesive
applied at the factory has dried out.
To correct this problem do whatever is necessary to block this opening.
Because of the limited working space in this area you will probably find
that a piece of duct tape placed over the foam should correct the problem.
Another easy solution is to stuff a piece of packing foam between the
firewall and the seal.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:55:51 +0000
From: Albert Siegel <siegel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: yellow delorean
Does anyone have any good photos of a yellow and/or black DeLorean they
can send me? Maybe a web site.... Thank you.
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:23:18 +0000
From: "darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: DMC convertible
For what its worth there is a guy in the Seattle area who has purchased
several junk DeLoreans and is supposedly in the process of making one
into a
convert. A few years ago I sold him the remains of a twin turbo setup
that
had gone through a fire, and at that time he said he had already purchased
the top, off of a Camaro of unknown vintage. I believe the plan was to
have
non-opening doors, cut down low along the armrest kind of like a Kaiser
Darrin. I've since lost track of him, but maybe he is lurking out there,
or
someone else may know more about it.
Darryl Tinnerstet
Specialty Automotive
4 LaBelle Lane
McCleary, WA 98557
PH: 360-495-4640
FAX: 360-495-4680
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 01:28:03 -0800
From: "Dave Price" <davep2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
>it!) and it's speedo goes up to 100mph. The Delorean's 2.8L engine must =
>be able to well above 85 - does anyone know why the dial had such a low =
>maximum? Has anyone gone beyond 85 in a DeLorean with an original =
>speedo? Did the needle go past 85 or get stuck??
The 85MPH speedo was due to federal regulations at the time. Corvettes
mocked this law by numbering their speedos to 85, but the range was much
greater - just blank on the last half of the face... As far as what
happens
when you reach the top speed? It just stays slightly past the 85 until
you
drop back down to 85mph.. Some folks claim that this causes their angle
drive to freeze, or is possible that the angle drive simply doesn't like
going that fast?
Take care!
- - Dave
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:57:24 -0600
From: magriese@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
Tris wrote
>
The Delorean's 2.8L engine must =
be able to well above 85 - does anyone know why the dial had such a low =
maximum? Has anyone gone beyond 85 in a DeLorean with an original =
speedo? Did the needle go past 85 or get stuck??
<
Very short answer - Federal regulations. In an effort to keep
people from speeding, it was mandated that speedometers
top out at 85mph. I have an '84 Lincoln Mk VII (the return of
the hotrod Lincoln!) that has a digital dash that also stops
at 85mph. After an aggressive pass you coast forever before
the speedometer starts to change again.
By the way, the needle on the DeLorean does not get stuck
above 85.
Michael A. Griese
Storage Software Development Manager
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN 55901
Internet: magriese@xxxxxxxxxx
voice: (507)253-1853
fax: (507)253-2880
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:01:42 -0600
From: magriese@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Re: Rear wheel adapter plate
Sean wrote
>
Does anyone know why this "adapter plate" is used as opposed to making =
that portion of the rotor thicker by the same amount as the adapter =
plate thickness?
<
Probably because the rotors were "borrowed" from another higher
volume car. Specialty makes do this all the time to keep costs down.
>
Also, just for curiosity, I mounted the wheel without the adapter plate =
(with the car on jack stands) and rotated it and found no interference =
issues, so is it really needed?
<
Without the plate you are changing the rear track, which will have
some effect on handling.
Michael A. Griese
Storage Software Development Manager
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN 55901
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:04:54 -0600
From: magriese@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Limited Edition Kits
A number of people have contacted me about obtaining
one of the left-over kits. I'm just the hired help - you really
need to contact Lee directly. His e-mail ID is
lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Michael A. Griese
Storage Software Development Manager
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN 55901
Internet: magriese@xxxxxxxxxx
voice: (507)253-1853
fax: (507)253-2880
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 08:29:10 -0500
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: DMC Convertible
Bruce said:
>Back in the early days of the 'Federal Saftey Czars' convertivbles were
>considered a potential liability in Detroit and production of them stopped
>for a period of years.
Bruce brings up a good point. The DeLorean was designed and built
during the climax of the anti-convertible mentality in the US. Many
manufacturers were convinced that all convertibles would be permanently
banned by Federal law. Chances are that DMC assumed that no one would
ever convert a DeLorean to a ragtop, so they did nothing make that
operation easy.
The torsional stiffness of the DeLorean is already very, very low. If
you weaken the roof further you are begging for your windshield and back
window to crack, along with other body twist related headaches.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 08:34:53 -0500
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Starting a DeLorean (was Idle Thoughts)
Lisa said:
>. . .Then I started it, and for the first time since I've owned it it started
>like a car ought to! No more VAAAARRROOOMM!!! and no more
>high idle. However, the engine was warm at the time so I wasn't
>quite ready to call it a victory. This morning when I started it it required
>a slight depression of the gas pedal . . .
This is not so bad. The owner's manual actually says the you are
*supposed* to depress the gas pedal slightly when you start a DeLorean.
This is unlike most other fuel injected cars.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 08:40:35 -0500
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Automatic to 5-Speed
Matt asked:
> Has anyone ever tried an Automatic to manual conversion?
> And if so, is it difficult? Are the parts available?
DMC Joe answered:
> A trans conversion requires frame, gear shift linkage, and
> electrical modifications. Very labor intensive and very expensive.
Because the frame itself is different for Automatic vs 5-Speed DeLoreans
I think the tranny exchange is not worth the trouble. Is this automatic
DeLorean really such a good deal? If so my advice is to buy it and
resell it or trade it in on a good, factory 5-Speed car.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:32:40 -0700
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: yellow delorean
>Does anyone have any good photos of a yellow and/or black DeLorean they
>can send me? Maybe a web site.... Thank you.
- -----------------------------
I followed JZD's venture for years in the auto mags but had never seen a
DeLorean "in the flesh" until I was driving through Pomona,CA in late '81
and saw a DeLorean in the showroom of Tate Cadillac. It was,IMHO, the
ugliest color of yellow I haad ever seen. In fact, it was the color that
caused me to stop and go inside so I could ask them just what they were
thinking of when they decided to paint a DeLorean that color. Well, it
worked - for them, that is - for I ultimately bought my brand new -
unpainted - DeLorean from Tate Cadillac. Sorry, no pictures, but I had to
share the story.
As to a black DeLorean, contact delorean@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - I think he has a
bunch of pictures of a black DeLorean he is getting ready to put on his
web
site.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 17:41:38 -0700
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Re: yellow delorean
If you go to the German web site, you will see a photo of a yellow
DeLorean
with an american flag in the back ground. I took that shot at the Pacific
Coast Dream Machines show in Half Moon Bay near San Francisco.
When I get a chance, I will add it to my web page.
Currently, I am busier than a one legged man in a rear end kicking
contest.
Scott Mueller
Mobile, AL
1981/002981 DOA-5031 DMCNEWS
Contact me about the "Deep South DeLorean Owners Club"
www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/aaanothe.htm
Remember April 3, 1999 - Camillia Classic Car Show in Mobile Alabama
May 2, 1999 - Blount British Car Show, Townsend TN
- -----Original Message-----
From: Albert Siegel <siegel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 5:51 AM
Subject: DML: yellow delorean
>Does anyone have any good photos of a yellow and/or black DeLorean they
>can send me? Maybe a web site.... Thank you.
>
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:12:22 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Starting a DeLorean (was Idle Thoughts)
Mike,
FYI, although the owners manual says to depress the accelerator pedal when
starting the engine, it is not necessary to do so. A properly maintained
DeLorean will start within the first few seconds of starting and continue
to idle without touching the gas pedal even in sub freezing temperatures.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:00:32 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: yellow DeLorean
Albert,
If you can get your hands on the book "DeLorean Stainless Steel Illusion"
go to page 120, there you will find a yellow, midnight blue, and red
DeLorean. This book is rare but can be found in some libraries.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:13:09 EST
From: Msstrygrl@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Re: Idle thoughts
As to how I resolved my idle problem:
Everything was checked (several times over) -- the throttle,
the microswitch, the idle adjustments screws,
the throttle lever screws, and all electrical connections.
The Idle Speed Regulator was removed and cleaned, and wired
up outside the car to check for proper rotor functions - and all of the
above are in *perfect* operating condition.
So, this leaves the ECU module as the likely source of the malfunction.
I think it's possible that an ECU could degrade over 18 years. Anyone
out there had to replace their ECU module?
In any case, having removed the Idle Speed Regulator, and having firmly
plugged off both air hoses it had connected with, then setting the
throttle
plates open a little via the throttle lever screw, my car is idling
perfectly
and starting fine even on a cold morning. Starting cold it does require
about a minute of warming before you drive off, otherwise you may have
to give it a little gas at the first stop sign to insure it doesn't
kill. But after a couple of minutes it's perfect.
Lisa
VIN 1353
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:13:45 EST
From: Msstrygrl@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Idle thoughts
>> The repair procedure you described is a good temporary alternative to your
high idle problem but will interfere with your emissions operation and may
cause hard starting. <<
Thanks for your response Joe. And thanks for mentioning that the '78
Volvo 260
had a carb. I'll save that piece of info for when the D becomes exempt in
CA
from
smog testing. In CA especially they're likely to flunk you if they figure
out
you've
altered your emissions system. Even if your emissions haven't actually
increased!
(isn't that sick?) So I guess the carb idea will have to go on hold for
awhile.
Fortunately, my problems seemed to be ironed out for now.
I do have a question though: How would disabling my idle regulator, as I
have,
interfere with my emissions operation?
Thanks again,
Lisa
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:11:15 EST
From: Msstrygrl@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Re: Idle thoughts
Regarding the difficulty of correcting a high idle Lee wrote:
>It's not hard at all,
>On top of the manifold are 3 adjusting screws.
>The throttle body on the PRV V-6 engine contains an air
> adjusting screw and two air balancing screws....
Lee, have you actually performed your recommended procedure on
your own car? I'm curious, because on my car these 3 adjustment
screws are irrelevant.
>Full fuel, emission and exhaust system operation and
> adjustment can be found starting at D:01:01to D:10:01
> in your manual.
I'm wondering if perhaps there are different issues of the D manual,
because at the bottom of page D:01:13 of mine it states the following:
"The throttle body on the PRV V-6 engine contains an air adjusting
screw and two air balancing screws. These adjustment screws
are not used on the De Lorean since an electronic idle speed control
system is used. The air adjusting screw should be fully seated to
eliminate any air bypass at the throttle plates."
I would have no reason to unseat this screw in order to lower
my idle, as it would not do so, so I'm a bit baffled by your post.
Perhaps you can clarify.
Lisa
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 01:32:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Sandro John Di Giacomo <sandro@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Columbus, OH
Greetings,
This year during my spring break a few friends and I will be heading out
to Columbus to visit one of our friends at OSU, and one day we are
planning to head up to Cleveland to see the auto museum and maybe check
out the KAPAC/Consolidated/DMC Houston Warehouse...is there anyone in that
area who might know of some other places of interest to visit (either
DeLorean or non-DeLorean related)?
Thanks!
Sandro J. Di Giacomo
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:41:48 -0600
From: "Daniel McGauley" <hawkeye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: FYI: DeLorean Mentioning
Recently the DeLorean and/or JZD has been mentioned on three t.v. shows:
1) Win Ben Stein's Money: two questions were asked about him
2) VH1: Pop-up video: Talking Heads - Road to Nowhere :(
3) The Superbowl.
- -Daniel
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 06:29:10 -0000
From: Dennis Mansfield <dman@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: waterpumps and stuff...
A while back there was some talk about waterpumps and last nite I ran
across this at the delorean motor company website:
http://www.usadmc.com/feature.html
Check it out!
D-man
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 08:47:04 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Idle thoughts
Try cleaning the connections on the ECU?
Maybe someone in the area would be willing to lend you one to test...
Msstrygrl@xxxxxxx wrote:
> So, this leaves the ECU module as the likely source of the malfunction.
> I think it's possible that an ECU could degrade over 18 years. Anyone
> out there had to replace their ECU module?
>
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 06:21:55 PST
From: brian_roy@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: JL 8 cards?
Looking through my newly acquired Johnny Lightning cars I noticed two
things.
The first was that I have a full set. (YEAH!)
The second is that there are at least nine different cards to collect. I
know the package says eight but I have nine.
Anyone else run into this?
I will work on getting pictures to prove my point.
Thanks
Brian
#4150
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 07:46:49 -0800
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: RE: DMC convertible
At 08:23 PM 1/31/99 +0000, you wrote:
>For what its worth there is a guy in the Seattle area who has purchased
>several junk DeLoreans and is supposedly in the process of making one
>into a convert.
Snip....................
Hi all and thanks for the DMC Convertible thread. It was a great help in
finding information not other wise available. Once again we all can thank
James for such a great resource.
I have drawn a conclusion that there has been interest in, but no actual
creation of a Delorean convertible.
For any interested I intend to create a Delorean convertible model with
drawings to post later this month or the beginning of next month. The
illustrations will be first the model some time thereafter. All this
effort
is subject to completing the limited edition. BTW I am on a leave of
absence so I can get the kits out ASAP.
It will feature Gull winged doors when the top is up and standard swing
open doors when the top is down. It will not have a role bar, which I
think
spoils the lines. It will also feature full retractable wing windows when
the top is down. It will also feature two BIG flush aircraft air scoops
and
a monster V8.
Excepting the V8 the actual creation of such a DMC in full size would not
be that difficult. I suppose the model approach is the seed of converting
my own DMC to a Convertible???
I wonder?????is he mad? they all thought looking at one another.
Lee wonderfinger
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 12:30:42 EST
From: Zack D Stewart <shaggydog4@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: wing span
Is the " Wing Span" of the doors on a D about the same as on a
car with regular doors.
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:50:57 -0500 (EST)
From: brian metz <metz.50@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: tire rotation
I've noticed the posts referring to replacement tires and was wondering
what
do we do about rotating our tires? Since front to back rotation is out
and
I don't want to have to break the tire down to rotate it, do you just not
rotate tires on the D? (You could rotate tires from side to side without
breaking them down, but this means that the tires would be changing
direction. You should never do this with radial tires.)
Also, I read a mention of a "headlight upgrade" on the D. What is this?
Just changing of the bulbs or something more intense?
Finally,
Brad: (and others with same problem) on the seat belt buzzer. I thought I
had a similar problem (that my seat belt buzzer was intermittent coming on
and going off. It turned out that it was the warning for the key in the
ignition with the door open. The door wasn't open (obviously), but the
switch that controls this was out of adjustment.
Brian
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:51:32 -0600
From: Greg Guillot <gguillot@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Rough running....
Here's a question that I can't seem to find an answer to in the back
issues:
I am restoring my D (#3926) and have just recently begun working on the
engine. It had sat up for many years, so as part of the restoration, I
have
replaced the fuel pump, examined the pick up assembly, replaced the fuel
filter, spark plugs, distributor cap, rotor, and air filter and all
fluids.
When I turn the ignition key, the car usually starts right up. It will
run rough,
but will usually smooth out after a few seconds. I get a lot of white
smoke
out of the tailpipes. However, it will not idle, and will eventually
begin to run
rough again and kill if I don't keep my foot on the pedal and coax it
along.
The worst part is, if I run it this way for a few minutes and then kill
the
engine, it will not restart. Now I thought this might be the accumulator,
but
since I only run it for a minute or two at the most, I don't see how the
engine
could be getting hot enough for vapor lock yet.
Anybody have any ideas where to start checking first?
Thanks,
Greg Guillot
VIN 2926
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:07:28 PST
From: "Jim Plamondon" <saab82@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Looking for a D
Hi, this is Jim.
I'm looking for a near perfect Twin Turbo DeLorean that is a early 81',
w/ gas flap, 5-sp, and black int.
Thanks,
Jim Plamondon
1746
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:09:18 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Wilson <fluffy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: wing span
On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Zack D Stewart wrote:
> Is the " Wing Span" of the doors on a D about the same as on a
> car with regular doors.
Even though they look like they will take up a lot of space, the hinge is
close enough to the center of the top that they actually only require
about 14 inches to open. The general rule is that if you can't get the
doors open, you probably can't get out of the car.
When open, I think the doors extend just a little over 6 feet into the
air.
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:27:17 -0500
From: "Jack Stiefel" <Stiefel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Renting my D
I know this topic has been covered a little bit in the past, but I am =
curious as to one point. How much should I be renting My D out for on =
special occasions?
I am finding great interest in my car locally since there are only a few =
of them, and it made me ponder the thought of renting it out for ="">
conventions and the like ( not to be rented out to drive or anything =
like that, just for show). There are several resorts near my summer =
home and they all seem excited about having the opportunity to use it.
My mother is a lawyer and is going to draw up any papers that are =
necessary, but the cost still eludes me.
Help!!!
Jack Stiefel
President Blade Runner Tackle Corporation
President Leslie Leasing Corporation
Visit us at: http://www.bladerunnertackle.com
or my DeLorean page at: =
http://www.geocities.com/rodeodrive/8601/delorean.html
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