dmcnews-digest Monday, February 8 1999 Volume 03 : Number 479
In this issue:
DML: Re: leak :-(
DML: YELLOW DELOREAN
Re: DML: leak :-(
DML: Fuel Accumulator And Speedo Cable
DML: Re: leak :-(
Water leak Service Bulletin (was: Re: DML: Re: leak :-()
DML: Dash-Mat Opinions
DML: Re: Doors on Johnny Lightning DeLorean
DML: [admin] Unacceptable postings to the DeLorean Mailing List
DML: just a question
DML: Willing to sale to Good Home - 1981 DeLorean #01529
Re: DML: Re: Doors on Johnny Lightning DeLorean
DML: Can anyone identify this D?
Re: DML: leak :-(
DML: DMC/Aerovette
DML: Dealership Sign
Re: DML: My next project (was Auto Trans Computer Rebuild
DML: RE: Researching Upgrades
DML: Japanese attempt to build a Gullingwing car
DML: Future Car Shows
DML: Re: Can anyone identify this D?
DML: AC vacuum hose to engine ?
DML: Gullwing Aerovette Link
DML: camaro lights- delorean lights-other
DML: RE: Can anyone identify this D?
DML: web sites
DML: RE: DMC/Aerovette
Re: DML: Can anyone identify this D?
Re: DML: DMC/Aerovette
DML: Torque Converters
Re: DML: Cams..(kinda long)
Re: DML: Can anyone identify this D?
Re: DML: DMC/Aerovette
DML: Commercial aspects of the DML (was RE: Researching Upgrades)
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:51:09 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: leak :-(
D.J.,
There are several possible sources of water leaks, I would suggest you
purchase a copy of the Water Leaks Bulletin from PJ Grady. If he doesn't
have this information get back to us and we will get you a copy. This
publication shows diagrams and explanations on how to correct all water
leaks. This
will save you a lot of time trying a hit & miss system through the list.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
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> From: D.J. LaForge <dj@xxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: leak :-(
> Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 7:15 PM
>
> Hello all...
>
> I did try searching the archives for this but there were so many matches
I
> couldn't find one that seemd appropriate to my problem.
>
> I have a leak at the top of my passenger side door. The water comes in
at
> the far right side just in front of the sun visor. I thought I could fix
> this by replacing the door seals (with new ones from P.J. Grady) but no
> such luck. Any suggestions on how to track down and fix this problem?
> Thanks!
>
>
> -D.J. LaForge
>
> VIN 07135
> San Jose, CA
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 04:43:30 -0700
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: YELLOW DELOREAN
In a previous post, someone ask for a photo of a Yellow DeLorean.
Follow this link to a yellow DeLorean.
http://www.delorean.de/titel.htm
This photo was taken at Pacific Coast Dream Machines in Half Moon Bay =
California.
When I get my PC straightened out, I will add more photos from that =
show.
SCOTT MUELLER
1981/002981
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/aaanothe.htm
COMING EVENTS
APRIL 3, 1999 CAMELLIA CLASSIC CAR SHOW, MOBILE ALABAMA
MAY 2, 1999 11TH ANNUAL BRITISH CAR GATHERING- TOWNSEND TN =
http://www.warelogic.com/bbcltd/events.html
MAY 21, 1999 DELOREAN MIDATLANTIC-EASTERN REGIONAL RUN 9 =
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/midatlan.htm
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:14:45 EST
From: Ad8302@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: leak :-(
It could be leaking from under the windshield header....this is a very
common
problem. The solution is to take the black metal piece at the top of the
windshield off (a couple of screws) and reseal were the factory put the
windshield in. There was a small bead from the factory and mine was
deteriorated and dried allowing water to seap in just at the visor and
leak.
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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 10:13:14 -0600
From: Jayson Tobias <tobias@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Fuel Accumulator And Speedo Cable
In the process of rebuilding the car, we have removed the frame from
the body. Is there any way to check to see if the fuel accumulator is
good?
Also, when the speedo cable was removed from the right angle drive
(twisted off the right angle drive cable out to the hub), the cable was
seized in the housing. Upon removing the lower housing from the service
counter, the lower cable turned freely. I removed the upper speedometer
cable housing from the service counter and it also turned freely. I
discovered the upper speedo cable is a 1/16" too long. After pulling
the upper cable out, I ground off a little bit of the upper end (flat
end) on a bench grinder, cleaned and lubed it up, and then reinstalled
everything. Everything from the right angle drive to the speedometer
turns freely now. Those of you having problems with your right angle
drive might check this as a source of wear.
Curtis Tobias
tobias@xxxxxxxxxx
#01071
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:27:13 -0500
From: "Vernon Brannon" <vernbrannon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: leak :-(
I had that problem on my 83. It turns out the fiberglass liner above the
visor had had small pin holes in it. I filled the holes and it stopped
the
leak.
Vernon F Brannon
vernbrannon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: D.J. LaForge <dj@xxxxxxx>
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 8:02 PM
Subject: DML: leak :-(
>Hello all...
>
>I did try searching the archives for this but there were so many matches I
>couldn't find one that seemd appropriate to my problem.
>
>I have a leak at the top of my passenger side door. The water comes in at
>the far right side just in front of the sun visor. I thought I could fix
>this by replacing the door seals (with new ones from P.J. Grady) but no
>such luck. Any suggestions on how to track down and fix this problem?
>Thanks!
>
>
>-D.J. LaForge
>
>VIN 07135
>San Jose, CA
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 99 11:19:14 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Water leak Service Bulletin (was: Re: DML: Re: leak :-()
On 2/7/99 3:50 PM, DMC Joe shared these fine thoughts...
>There are several possible sources of water leaks, I would suggest you
>purchase a copy of the Water Leaks Bulletin from PJ Grady. If he doesn't
>have this information get back to us and we will get you a copy. This
>publication shows diagrams and explanations on how to correct all water
>leaks.
Or, if you don't want to buy one from grady, or wait for Joe to send you
a copy, do what over 1500 other people have done since the inception of
the DeLorean Mailing List and download a PDF version of the factory
service (ST33-12/81) bulletin dealing with water leaks at:
ftp://dmcnews.com/pub/ST33.pdf
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:50:09 -0500
From: "Watkins Family watbmv@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <watbmv@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Dash-Mat Opinions
I had offered a black dash cover for sale for $20.00. This was not a
Dash-Mat product but the more expensive ones offered by some DMC service
places. I bought a new Gray Dash-Mat product for about $30.00. The gray
one is O.K. but, in my opinion, the gray color is a bit too light and
doesn't match the gray dash well. It also feels to be made from a lighter
material than the other cover on the market. The Dash-mat version doesn't
fully cover and protect the dash pad on the passenger side below the glove
compartment. In addition the glove box opening on the Dash-mat product is
really big and not a small opening as on the more expensive cover. It
does fit well however.
At $30.00 Dash-mat makes a good cover and it's nice to see a company that
makes them for our cars. But, I think the more expensive cover is nicer.
It just depends on how much you want to spend. With my first Delorean I
had purchased the more expensive Gray cover and like it alot. My Second
Delorean came with the same more expensive cover only in black. I didn't
like the black-on-gray look so I opted to sell it, which someone has
already done. If you want a good cover at a good price, the Dash-mat
product will suffice, just know that if you are ordering the gray one you
may feel, as I do, that the color isn't quite right.
Tom
#5732
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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 12:16:26 -0600
From: "time@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <time@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Doors on Johnny Lightning DeLorean
>Just one question, on some Johnny Lightning cars the hood opens, do the=20
>doors, or hood open on the Johnny Lighting BTTF DeLorean?
>Thanks, Chad
Unfortunately, no, but the car is unbelievably detailed otherwise,
including
the interior. Definitely the best die-cast DeLorean time machine on the=
market!
To Be Continued...
Stephen M. Clark, Fan Club Representative
Back to the Future=99...The Fan Club
P.O. Box 880
Athens, AL 35612-0880 U.S.A.
Phone/Fax: (256) 757-7979
E-mail: time@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Web Site: http://www.bttf.com/
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"FutureFest" -- Hill Valley's first BTTF Convention is coming!
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 99 12:07:10 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: [admin] Unacceptable postings to the DeLorean Mailing List
To clarify, the following types of messages are not okay:
* Spam, chain mail, or virus warnings (posting these is grounds
for removal)
* Press releases, commercial notices, attachments, etc.
* Questions asking if the DML has covered a topic previously (use
our Web search engine)
* Questions relating to a DML subscription (send email to
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* Me-too postings after a topic has been addressed sufficiently
* Anything not related to the DeLorean automobile, company and man.
* Obviously personal replies (should be done via private email)
* Postings from people wanting to buy a "cheap" DeLorean in great
condition
* Quoting entire messages/threads and then only adding a few lines of new
content
* Anything else I feel is inappropriate (Iron Hand Espey)
I hope to keep the volume of postings moderate to avoid overwhelming
subscribers. Also, I'm more likely to post messages that are
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message rejection personally; it will be done in the interests of making
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:18:29 -0500 (EST)
From: Justin Rogerson <rogerson@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: just a question
dmlers,
This may sound like a stupid question but recently i've spotted a
D parked outside someone's house about thirty miles from where i live. I
know that the body is stainless and that DMC was going to offer a 25 year
warranty on the body but is this kind of constant exposure bad for the
rest of the car? The car is in Marland so it's not as if it's being
exposed to subfreeezing cold or extreme heat. I'm interested in
approaching the owner and seeing if he or she is willing to sell it but i
don't believe that they drive it.Thanks in advance for any help!
- Justin R.
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:35:41 EST
From: DeLorean2C@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Willing to sale to Good Home - 1981 DeLorean #01529
After almost three and a half years of ownership I have decided to
consider selling my 1981 DeLorean DMC-12. It is an early production model
(May 1981 build, VIN #01529) with black leather interior and a 5-speed
manual transmission. I used the car as a daily driver for about 2 1/2
years until purchasing a new car the first week of November. Now it sits
in the garage except for a monthly drive to keep the fluids from
destabilizing.
When I purchased the car it had about 12,100 miles showing on the
odometer. Approximately 50 miles from completing my 2,100 mile "coming
home" trip from Oregon to Missouri, the angle drive failed. I have never
fixed it, but can make a decent guess that I have driven it between
20,000 and 25,000 miles since then. This DeLorean does have the grooves
ont eh hood, fuel flap door and locking gas cap, but the windshield with
the radio antenna was replaced two years ago after a rock cracked it. The
car is not a concours original in any way - it was painted red by a
previous owner, and I have installed an alarm, Alpine CD stereo and 140
amp "police" alternator.
The car has proved itself to me to be a fairly solid everyday driver as
long as it is maintained prooperly. I had planned to garage it for two
years and do a complete frame-off restoration that would include
stripping the paint and rebrushing the car. However, the demands on my
time and my career goals have forced me to rethink devoting this much
time to what is now a "weekend car." If the car was restored the way I
wanted I can safely say it would be worth $24,000.
I did not buy the car as an investment and am looking at finding a good
home for it rather than making a mint on it. At present, I would be
willing to part with it for $12,000. Perhaps less for the perfect loving
buyer, but don't expect me to consider any offer below $10,000. I would
prefer the car go to a DMLer and will not consider listing it elsewhere
for at least a couple of weeks.
If interested contact me via email (DeLorean2C@xxxxxxx) with your
questions and I will provide further info and history on the car. You can
call me at home (573-886-7695) if you so desire, but I may be working
until at least 6 p.m. central time several nights this week.
Thank you!
Chase Clark
Columbia, Missouri
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:24:02 -0500
From: Joe Capasso <capasso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Doors on Johnny Lightning DeLorean
What is the green thing on the back? I picked one up at Kay Bee Toys
the
other day. The real BTTF car doesn't have a green thing....
Joe
time@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >Just one question, on some Johnny Lightning cars the hood opens, do the=20
> >doors, or hood open on the Johnny Lighting BTTF DeLorean?
> >Thanks, Chad
>
> Unfortunately, no, but the car is unbelievably detailed otherwise,
> including
> the interior. Definitely the best die-cast DeLorean time machine on the=
> market!
>
> To Be Continued...
>
> Stephen M. Clark, Fan Club Representative
> Back to the Future=99...The Fan Club
> P.O. Box 880
> Athens, AL 35612-0880 U.S.A.
> Phone/Fax: (256) 757-7979
> E-mail: time@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Web Site: http://www.bttf.com/
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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 13:56:08 MST
From: "Adam Michael" <amichael10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Can anyone identify this D?
I was recently looking through a book I recieved for Christmas titled
"The World Encyclopedia of Cars" when I stumbled across an article on
the DeLorean. One of the pictures in the article really baffled me. It
shows the rear of a DeLorean, only the tail lights are split into 3
vertical sections (kind of like a Mustang) and the antenna is mounted in
the center of the roof. I uploaded the picture so you guys could help me
identify where this car came from and what it is. Is it a prototype that
I've never seen before or what? Well, the picture is at this address:
http://members.tripod.com/~DeLoreanDMC/weirddmc.jpg I would really like
to know anything about this car and where it is located now. Thanks in
advance!
Adam Michael
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:26:42 EST
From: KayoOng@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: leak :-(
D.J. LaForge,
Try changing the seal at the top of the windshield where it meets the
door's
edge. This seal also travels down the side of the windshield on the left
and
right side of the car. That is where the water will likely to get into
the
car. The other door seal you change only helps to keep air and some rain
and
water out.
If you want to, you can try removing the old seal and repositioning them a
little higher at the top of the windshield. You can "regluing" them into
the
new position. This may help save you some money.
You should also check the new rubbers seal you installed for they may not
be
position right. Make sure the doors do not crease the new rubber edges
when
closed and create gaps which will allow air and water leaks.
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic. 9D NY
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 18:01:05 -0500
From: "Watkins Family watbmv@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <watbmv@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DMC/Aerovette
My son just bought me a model kit of a 70's Chevy Corvette concept car
called an "Aerovette". The car had "bi-fold gull-wing doors" , a mid
engine and the prototype at one point had a Wankel engine in it before
being replaced by a small blcok Chevy V-8 . The car had deformable plastic
nose and tail section as well as being painted sterling silver.
hmmmmm.....Now where have I seen a silver gullwing car with rubber(ish)
nose and tail section as well as having the engine in the
rear???........So, does anyone know if JZD had seen this prior to his
leaving GM and how much of the Delorean was based on this car (if any).
The car does have a Delorean type look to it. Wasn't JZD one the the
first to push for the Wankel engine while at GM?
Since it was built I assume it must be somewhere, anyone know of it's
existence? you can see pictures of this car (with doors open!!) at
http://www.idavette.net/cars/76aero.jpg1
Tom
#5732
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 01:27:31 EST
From: Gullwing99@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Dealership Sign
Hello fellow D Lovers,
Wanted to ask a couple questions about dealership signs.
I puchased one a couple years ago from a guy in North Carolina, and it
was one
of the big double sided signs. I paid 2k for it, was this a good
price?,,,what
is it worth, and is it more rare than the single sided signs. I know that
were
about 345 dealers and I assume that the double sided signs were for bigger
dealerships. Would it be a safe guess that there was less of the larger
ones.
And does anyone have an educated guess as to how many they think are left.
I've heard stories of dealers being so mad that they trashed the signs in
the
garbage after the factory closed.
take care
J.B.Vincent
vin: 16709
lic: DMC-12
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 00:27:48 -0700
From: mike atkinson <mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: My next project (was Auto Trans Computer Rebuild
successful!)
Sender: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Precedence: list
Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hi Duke,
I have been thinking about adding another engine compartment light or even
two at the firewall. However your idea is even better, let me know what
you
have in mind as I'd like to try it.
Thanks
Mike Atkinson
mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Duke wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for all of the positive feedback. Here is my next =
> project. I've noticed alot of people having problems with the engine =
> compartment light and I was able to replace mine while still using the =
> existing housing. However, as all owners know, the light isn't =
> sufficent enough to see everything (anything!) at night. A while back, =
> I owned a '82 280ZX and its engine compartment light would detach and =
> had enough wire to reach anywhere in the engine compartment. I figured =
> this would be a good idea for the DeLorean in case ya ever forget your =
> flashlight. If anyone is interested please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Duke
> www.geocities.com/motorcity/8952/delorean.html
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 01:53:05 -0700
From: mike atkinson <mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: Researching Upgrades
"If you come on this list and ask: Should I buy stuff for my
Delorean the answer is going to be a resounding *YES* from
many corners. Keep in mind there are people here selling
things and also promoting their favorite D parts sources
and mechanics."
"Don't believe anyone here who tries to convince
you that only one person (in New Jersey) has it for a fair price."
Lisa,
I could not disagree with you more. The people in this group have been
nothing but helpful and encouraging. No one has ever tried to sell me
on their product, only point me in the right direction for the help I
needed. Everyone always has an opinion as to how best repair a car but
I have never been given a sales pitch. Only good advise!
Allow newcomers such as myself to decide for themselves without painting
this group as something it is definitely not.
Mike Atkinson
VIN 16232
mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 03:58:24 EST
From: CBL302@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Japanese attempt to build a Gullingwing car
Did you Know that a fourth mass produced gullwing car exists.It was called
AZ-1,and appox 4000 cars,were built,it even has the toll booth
windows,and was
built around 1989,and was produced for two years,before production was
stopped,you can go to HTTP://www.wwwbbs.net/~LE9S-ICKW/e_histry.html it is
very interesting.
Claude
Vin.#570
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 05:16:03 -0700
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Future Car Shows
I just updated my "Future Car Shows" page.
Check it out at =
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/midatlan.htm
I have added information about:
April 17, 1999 Pensacola Florida Show on the Beach, This show was =
recommended by Bill Silhan, a DeLorean owner in Pensacola who =
participated in the Hooters show last Halloween.
May 2, 1999 Blount British Car Gathering, Townsend TN This is a show =
recommended by Bruce Battles.
May ?, 1999 First Annual Discount Auto Parts Show in Mobile, AL Still =
in planning stages.
May 21-23, 1999 DeLorean Mid-Atlantic Eastern Region Run 9
As you can see, there are lots of shows out there for us to participate =
in. I plan to attend as many as I can. There is no better way to =
promote the DeLorean Marque than to participate in these shows.
SCOTT MUELLER
1981/002981
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/aaanothe.htm
COMING EVENTS
APRIL 3, 1999 CAMELLIA CLASSIC CAR SHOW, MOBILE ALABAMA
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/CamilliaClassic.htm
APRIL 17, 1999 PENSACOLA BEACH BASH and ALL BRITISH CAR SHOW
MAY 2, 1999 11TH ANNUAL BRITISH CAR GATHERING- TOWNSEND TN
http://www.warelogic.com/bbcltd/events.html
MAY 21, 1999 DELOREAN MIDATLANTIC-EASTERN REGIONAL RUN 9
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/midatlan.htm
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 05:32:11 -0700
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Re: Can anyone identify this D?
Adam
The DeLorean has the European tail lights. I have a photo of this on my
Eurofest page
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/photos2.htm
SCOTT MUELLER
1981/002981
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/aaanothe.htm
COMING EVENTS
APRIL 3, 1999 CAMELLIA CLASSIC CAR SHOW, MOBILE ALABAMA
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/CamilliaClassic.htm
APRIL 17, 1999 PENSACOLA BEACH BASH and ALL BRITISH CAR SHOW
MAY 2, 1999 11TH ANNUAL BRITISH CAR GATHERING- TOWNSEND TN
http://www.warelogic.com/bbcltd/events.html
MAY 21, 1999 DELOREAN MIDATLANTIC-EASTERN REGIONAL RUN 9
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/midatlan.htm
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From: Adam Michael <amichael10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 6:57 PM
Subject: DML: Can anyone identify this D?
>I was recently looking through a book I recieved for Christmas titled
>"The World Encyclopedia of Cars" when I stumbled across an article on
>the DeLorean. One of the pictures in the article really baffled me. It
>shows the rear of a DeLorean, only the tail lights are split into 3
>vertical sections (kind of like a Mustang) and the antenna is mounted in
>the center of the roof. I uploaded the picture so you guys could help me
>identify where this car came from and what it is. Is it a prototype that
>I've never seen before or what? Well, the picture is at this address:
>http://members.tripod.com/~DeLoreanDMC/weirddmc.jpg I would really like
>to know anything about this car and where it is located now. Thanks in
>advance!
>
> Adam Michael
>The DeLorean Corner: http://members.tripod.com/~DeLoreanDMC/index.html
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:50:14 +0100
From: j.vanderWerff@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: AC vacuum hose to engine ?
While doing some minor repairs in the engine bay I found the end of a hose
that had been seald off with an old nail by somebody who owned the car
earlier. It is a small plastik like hose about 4 mm in diameter that
enters
the engine-bay through the left rear pontoon at about halfway between the
vacuum-tank and the firewall. I traced the hose back to the other end a
found that it is connected to the orange marked hose comming from
connector
nr.3 on the AC selector-switch and running to the right front wheel-well.
It
all looks factory installed to me but I couldn't find it in the manual.
Does anybody know where this hose should be connected to in the engine
bay ?
FYI: it is certainly not the main vacuum line to the selector switch, I
did
found that one, it is quit a bit larger. The AC switch does function
properly.
John
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:48:33 -0500
From: "Watkins Family watbmv@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <watbmv@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Gullwing Aerovette Link
Seems the link that I put on the list to see this car doesn't work. If
you
go to http://www.idavette.net click on "Corvette Prototypes" and then
click on "1976 XP-882". This should work better. Does any John Delorean
material out there mention his involvement with this car?
Tom
#5732
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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 19:00:35 PST
From: "Gabe Weiner" <supersurge1@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: camaro lights- delorean lights-other
Did anyone notice that a certain camaro year(probably late 80's or early
90's) has the same front and back lights as a delorean. And from a
distance
an old toyota celica from the front looks JUST LIKE A DELOREAN. Has anyone
else noticed how Deloreans have influnced cars?
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:21:00 -0500
From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: Can anyone identify this D?
I believe that this car is what you call the "European" version of the
DeLorean. ---Dan
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:10:48 -0500
From: "Blade Runner" <stiefel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: web sites
I am not sure if this bothers anyone else on here, but I recently found =
a DeLorean site containing numerous pictures taken from other sites =
online. I really don't care except he has taken some pictures I took =
myself at a special shoot at Universal Studios and placed on my site. =
If anyone knows him, please let him know, or would like to see if their =
pics are on the site go to: =
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~johndore/index.html . I sent him mail but =
have not received anything back.=20
Jack Stiefel
President Blade Runner Tackle Corporation
President Leslie Leasing Corporation
Visit us at: http://www.bladerunnertackle.com
or visit my DeLorean page at: =
http://www.geocities.com/rodeodrive/8601/delorean.html
DMC Vin # 3461 August 1981 Build
NY Licence # 0utatime
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:55:34 -0600
From: "Travis Graham" <travis.h.graham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: DMC/Aerovette
Hi Tom,
I believe that this car is at (or at least WAS at) the National Corvette
Museum in Bowling Green, KY. I was up there about 5 years ago and
remember
seeing a Corvette with gullwing doors on display. I am assuming that the
car I saw was the Aerovette. Naturally, I toured that place before I
caught
the "De Lorean bug," so I didn't get the details of that display. I have
been meaning to go back there with the sole intention of getting the scoop
on this car...I hope it is still there!
Travis Graham
#6344
> My son just bought me a model kit of a 70's Chevy Corvette concept car
> called an "Aerovette". The car had "bi-fold gull-wing doors" , a mid
> engine and the prototype at one point had a Wankel engine in it before
> being replaced by a small blcok Chevy V-8 . The car had deformable plastic
> nose and tail section as well as being painted sterling silver.
>
> (SNIP)
>
> Tom
> #5732
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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:00:59 -0600
From: Jeff Wiltzius <wiltzius@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Can anyone identify this D?
Hey Adam,
I received the same book for Christmas. Very nice book with lots of nice
pictures including 1 page on our beloved Delorean (although the author
doesn't really have too many kind words) :-( Author speaks of the DMC-12
of never having anything more than acceptable handling and now being
somewhat of a cult car. Interesting stuff indeed!
But to answer your question Adam (and I'm sure everyone will correct me if
I'm wrong) but I believe what you are seeing is the European taillight
layout (also note the eupean license plate). That's why the backend looks
a
little strange- it's the way they all (DMC-12's) were made for the
european
market.
Hope that answer's your question.
Jeff
#6145 (sleeping through the Wisconsin winter!)
At 02:56 PM 2/7/99 , you wrote:
>I was recently looking through a book I recieved for Christmas titled
>"The World Encyclopedia of Cars" when I stumbled across an article on
>the DeLorean. One of the pictures in the article really baffled me. It
>shows the rear of a DeLorean, only the tail lights are split into 3
>vertical sections (kind of like a Mustang) and the antenna is mounted in
>the center of the roof. I uploaded the picture so you guys could help me
>identify where this car came from and what it is. Is it a prototype that
>I've never seen before or what? Well, the picture is at this address:
>http://members.tripod.com/~DeLoreanDMC/weirddmc.jpg I would really like
>to know anything about this car and where it is located now. Thanks in
>advance!
>
> Adam Michael
>The DeLorean Corner: http://members.tripod.com/~DeLoreanDMC/index.html
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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:04:29 -0600
From: Jeff Wiltzius <wiltzius@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: DMC/Aerovette
Tom,
Actually, if I remember correctly there was a picture of this concept
Corvette in Stainless Steel Illusion. Can't give you a page number because
I don't own the book (just checked it out from my local library 3 times!).
I'm not really certain what was all mentioned in the book about the car
but
I do remember seeing a picture.
Anyone that has the book confirm this and hand out a page number?
Jeff
#6145
At 05:01 PM 2/7/99 , you wrote:
>My son just bought me a model kit of a 70's Chevy Corvette concept car
>called an "Aerovette". The car had "bi-fold gull-wing doors" , a mid
>engine and the prototype at one point had a Wankel engine in it before
>being replaced by a small blcok Chevy V-8 . The car had deformable plastic
>nose and tail section as well as being painted sterling silver.
>
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:12:46 -0500 (EST)
From: WINGER2@xxxxxxxxx (TRENT BAILEY)
Subject: DML: Torque Converters
Does any one know of a high preformane torque converter for the
Delorean.
Trent Bailey
email: winger2@xxxxxxxxx
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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 21:48:29 PST
From: "Marc Barth" <d16y8@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Cams..(kinda long)
A new performance camshaft will generally have more lift and
duration than a stock camshaft. This will give you more power. However
depending on how the cam is designed will determine whether you have a
lot of low end torque and not much high end horsepower or vice-versa.
Too much lift and duration can cause valve clearance problems and piston
knock but that only happen with true high lift racing cams. Sometimes
when upgrading cams you need to replace valves and valve retainers but
again that is only on camshafts with high lift on very long
duration(race only).
A larger cam usually will lead to an increased exhaust note due to
increased air flow and sometimes can increase emissions. This is why
most aftermarket cams are not legal for street use. However if you live
outside of California that shouldn't be too much of a worry.
The reason why you don't see too many aftermarket cams for the PRV
engine is probably because there isn't much demand for them. You won't
have any problems finding cams in several different grinds for Camaros,
Mustangs, Miatas,or Hondas because there is high demand. Not too many
people are racing cars with PRV motors. However you can always have one
custom made for you but naturally that costs more and you have to find
someone who knows what their doing and has knowledge about your engine.
>From: "Jameel Ahed" <ahed@xxxxxxxx>
>To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: DML: Cams..
>Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:48:24 -0600
>Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>Dear DML,
> About the performance cams... 1) What exactly does this do to
improve
>the engines performance? 2) Since the PRV is a largely produced
engine,
>why
>can't I find any performance cams? 3) What other modifications are
needed
>when you change cams?
>Jameel
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John T. Streckfuss <jtspring@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 11:55 AM
>Subject: DML: exhaust geometry
>
>
>>Hey DMC JOE! A few years ago someone (Fred Lockhart, I think) had
>>available sets of performance camshafts for Ds. I have just finished a
>>set of cylinder heads that have had the exhaust ports enlarged,
>>radiused, and polished. Before I install the heads, I would like to
add
>>a little bit of lift to the exhaust geometry. Any ideas?
>>
>
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:25:39 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Can anyone identify this D?
On 2/7/99 8:55 PM, Adam Michael shared these fine thoughts...
>I was recently looking through a book I recieved for Christmas titled
>"The World Encyclopedia of Cars" when I stumbled across an article on
>the DeLorean. One of the pictures in the article really baffled me. It
>shows the rear of a DeLorean, only the tail lights are split into 3
>vertical sections (kind of like a Mustang) and the antenna is mounted in
This is one of European DeLoreans. Like Scott, I saw this car in Ireland
at Eurofest a few years ago. Look closely at hte photos and you see that
the binnacle is on the right side of the car, indicating it is RHD.
James Espey
#10570
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:27:48 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: DMC/Aerovette
On 2/7/99 11:00 PM, Watkins Family watbmv@xxxxxxxxxxxx shared these fine
thoughts...
>My son just bought me a model kit of a 70's Chevy Corvette concept car
>called an "Aerovette". The car had "bi-fold gull-wing doors" , a mid
>engine and the prototype at one point had a Wankel engine in it before
>being replaced by a small blcok Chevy V-8 . The car had deformable plastic
>nose and tail section as well as being painted sterling silver.
THis car is discussed in Stainless Steel Illusion, and Bill Collins is
quoted as saying that JZD attempted to buy the rights to the design and
engineering that had been done on this car, but was rebuffed by GM.
James Espey
#10570
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:32:35 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Commercial aspects of the DML (was RE: Researching Upgrades)
Lisa wrote:
>>"If you come on this list and ask: Should I buy stuff for my
>> Delorean the answer is going to be a resounding *YES* from
>> many corners. Keep in mind there are people here selling
>> things and also promoting their favorite D parts sources
>> and mechanics."
>>
>>"Don't believe anyone here who tries to convince
>> you that only one person (in New Jersey) has it for a fair price."
On 2/8/99 8:52 AM, mike atkinson replied...
>Lisa,
>
>I could not disagree with you more. The people in this group have been
>nothing but helpful and encouraging. No one has ever tried to sell me
>on their product, only point me in the right direction for the help I
>needed. Everyone always has an opinion as to how best repair a car but
>I have never been given a sales pitch. Only good advise!
>
>Allow newcomers such as myself to decide for themselves without painting
>this group as something it is definitely not.
>
>Mike Atkinson
The DML has no commercial ties to any parts/service facility nor does it
have any affiliation with any national or regional club. Any postings
that recommend (or slam) any facility are the opinion of the author.
As with any marque (or hobby) you will find those that are particularly
zealous int he support of one company or club. The educated enthusiast
knows this and decides for themselves what to believe and what not to
believe. The DeLorean Mailing List exists to provide owners and
enthusiasts with a forum for discussion - that's it.
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
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