dmcnews-digest Wednesday, December 30 1998 Volume 03 : Number 460
In this issue:
DML: Re: Ditzler paint
Re: DML: Hardcastle&MCcormick Delorean
Re: DML: motor swap question
DML: DeLorean in new video game...
DML: bttf and stuff
Re: DML: Last 24k gold D
DML: Lancia Medusa aka four door DeLorean
Re: DML: Last 24k gold D
Re: DML: Time Machine
Re: DML: motor swap question
DML: Any information on Scientific Automotive? or Ben Byrd?
Re: DML: Last 24k gold D
Re: DML: Last car.
Re: DML: Stainless Steel
Re: DML: bttf and stuff
Re: DML: DeLorean in new video game...
Re: DML: bttf and stuff
Re: DML: motor swap question
DML: Just Venting...
DML: Oct. 81 service - wrecked
Re: DML: Time Machine
Re: DML: Re: Ditzler paint
DML: Transmission Layout?
DML: Looking for sheepskins source
Re: DML: Hardcastle&MCcormick Delorean
DML: VH1,Cheryl Crow,Pinto ..Ugh!!!
DML: Power loss and whine
DML: New to the list
DML: Dash Cover
DML: Re: Drive Shaft (CV Joint problem) (HELP!!)
DML: VIN 00557 IS 00556 !
DML: 1983 Corvette
DML: Mustang
DML: The DeLorean: Gold Portfolio - buy it online!
DML: Re: Dash Cover
DML: Re: Power loss and whine
Re: DML: Dash Cover
DML: Re: Looking for sheepskins source
DML: Re: New to the list
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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:15:40 -0800
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Ditzler paint
>I'm looking for the Ditzler paint to paint my facias. All the paint
>shops I go to want a chip sample to make up a new formula because they
>have no cross reference to the Ditzler numbers.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dave
Ditzler should be the same as PPG Industries.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 01:30:26 +0100
From: Mats Karlsson <ford.prefect@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Hardcastle&MCcormick Delorean
Exactly what is/was Hardcastle and McCormick?
CBL302@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> If anybody is interested the Delorean used in the series Hardcastle and
> MCcormick
> is for sale,for a bargain price of $99,000.00,to view the ad go to
> Http://www.snap.com
> then click Classified,then click on Automotive,then click on Cars,then
> click on Delorean,then click on Delorean Coyote.
>
> Claude
> 000570
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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:04:19 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Wilson <fluffy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: motor swap question
On Sat, 26 Dec 1998, Marc Barth wrote:
> Has anybody on this list done or attempted a motor swap on a Delorean?
Hey look, it's my favorite recurring thread! :} This is something which
has been done, and is something that I would really like to do as soon as
I can sort out how to do it. (measure twice, cut once). Anyone else
that's interested in engine swaps or has done so and wants to chat about
it, why not email me privately? We can all have a nice discussion without
tying up the list.
> Does anybody know if the V-6 from the Acura NSX would fit? Obviously
> there would have to be custom mounting brackets etc. . but does anybody
> know if it would work? A 290 hp Delorean sounds pretty good to me.
It's worth a shot. Just about any engine can be stuffed into just about
any car as long as it will physically fit in the bay. The DeLorean engine
bay is wide enough for most reasonable engines, but you need to make sure
the engine is short enough. Compare the NSX engine to the PRV length
wise. If it's about the same length or shorter you can probably do it.
Another concern is weight. Most V8s will weigh more than the PRV which
makes trouble; but the NSX engine probably doesn't weigh substantially
more.
I can think of a few disadvantages for this setup, not least of which is
the complexity of the control electronics. The NSX makes most airplanes
and the occasional spacecraft look low-tech. My bet would also be that
the NSX engine is extremely expensive.
Advantages include that the engine comes out of a mid-engine car, so if
you bring the transmission with you will have an easier time stuffing it
in, and that JZD likes the NSX a whole lot. ;)
Success stories for engine swaps include Mazda 13B rotaries, Buick Grand
National V6s, Range Rover V8s, and 350 Chevy V8s. Someone also wanted to
do an electric conversion, I don't know if that ever materialized. I've
probably missed a couple in there too. The HP results were anywhere from
140HP (for the Mazda) on up to the stratosphere (for the Grand National).
To me, the biggest problem is with the transmission. I don't trust the
stock 5-speed much over 200 or maybe 250 HP. I'd also be concerned about
frame strength, especially if the frame has some rust on it. Supposedly
the standard frame only handles 130 ft.lbs. of torque. I think it's
stronger than that, but I don't really know just how strong.
Then, there's all the traditional engine swap troubles. Fuel flow,
gauges, transmission adapters, frame customization, ground clearance...
My personal preference is for the Mazda rotaries, used in the RX7. The
newer 13B and even 20B (a three rotor version) engines produce anywhere
from 200 to 450 or more HP, salted to taste, and are smaller and lighter
than the PRV. The rotary engine was also considered for the "real"
DeLorean engine. There is also an abundance of performance parts for
these engines. The disadvantages to this are the relatively short engine
life (100 to 150 thousand miles at the most) and the fuel economy or lack
thereof.
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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:56:10 EST
From: UNCLEUMP@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: DeLorean in new video game...
Hello,
I just got the sequel to the video game "Carmageddon" called "Carmageddon
II
Carpocalypse Now" and was surprised to see a DeLorean as one of the
optional
vehicles. They made a few changes to it...long spike-like teeth on the
front
and if my D went as fast as this one, I'd be stopped every time I drove
it.
The game even lets you open the doors!!
It's a cool game and worth checking out.
mATT
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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:40:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Beau Saxon <beausaxon@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: bttf and stuff
i was wondering if anyone knows how the idea to use a delorean as the
car in bttf came about? were there any other cars "up for the role"?
not to be annoying...but i still havent had much luck with getting
that font. AND are there any Auburn fans that have deloreans??
also...every time i wanna post somethin it takes me like a half hour
to figure out the address to send my posting to...i have to search all
over the dmc news website.
Beau Saxon
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 01:12:43 EST
From: DMC5524@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Last 24k gold D
Did anyone else notice that the Gold DeLorean in Reno has all brown
interior,
except for the grey headliners? Very interesting.
<< If you wish to see my picutes of the one in Reno, I have 16 pictures I
<< took of it on my Website. http://www.isd.net/jpatrick/
MDC
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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:16:40 -0800
From: Alex Krochmal <alexk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Lancia Medusa aka four door DeLorean
The four door DeLorean is called the Medusa built for Lancia in 1980 by
Italdesign here is a link http://www.nes.it/italdesign/proto/18.htm You
will find that during the late 70's and early 80's mainly cars designed
by
Italdesign look very similar to the DeLorean. The main Italdesign site
is
located at http://www.italdesign.it
Alex
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:44:21 -0500 (EST)
From: DJS912@xxxxxxxxx (Danny Smith)
Subject: Re: DML: Last 24k gold D
During the mid eighties I saw a gold plated D at Kapak in Columbus Oh.
It was an automatic with carmal brown interior. Brand new and beautiful,
it was kept inside (of course) near lots and lots of parts and was for
sale. I assume it was built in the US, I'm not sure.
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:04:14 PST
From: "Joe Sorrentino" <joeytino@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Time Machine
JCox4001@xxxxxxx wrote:
If you have ever been to Universal Studios on either coast, you
know that they are very particular with their Time Machines, only
showing it at irregular intervals and the such, and they sure dont want
you to touch!
About 4 or five years ago I lucked out while wandering through the
parking lot at Universal Florida and I saw the BTTF mock up near their
garage. Throwing caution to the wind, I walked through the gate and I
talked to a few of the mechanics around, they had no problem with me
taking as many pictures as I wanted. For about a half an hour I covered
the car inside and out, and although it was neat to sit in it, it was a
bit depressing what they did to the car to do it. I don't know if it was
a production vehicle or just one for display at the park. At the time it
was in poor condition with parts of the mock up literally falling off,
and a lot of rust on the various additional parts. The mechanics said it
ran horribly, taking quite some time to get it to work at all when it
arrived. A year later a friend of mine, hired as a Ghostbuster at the
park, and had to drive it and the Ghostbuster hearse between the garage
and the ride sites, agreed with that statement, so upkeep was spotty at
best.
For what it's worth...
Happy New Year to all
Joe Sorrentino
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:45:23 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: motor swap question
There have been a few threads on motor swaps for the Delorean. You may
want to check the archives for more info.
The only successful engine swaps that I have heard of are a chevy small
block, a Buick 3.8 Turbo (from a Grand National, 300+ HP!) and the BTTF
Delorean with the Range Rover motor.
I dont think anyone has tried to put a Japanese motor in a Delorean
yet. The "Engine Swap" threads usually end quickly knowing that just
about anything is possible, if you have the money to spend on it.
If you want cheap (relatively) horsepower, get a Turbo kit.
Marc Barth wrote:
>
> Has anybody on this list done or attempted a motor swap on a Delorean?
> Does anybody know if the V-6 from the Acura NSX would fit? Obviously
> there would have to be custom mounting brackets etc. . but does anybody
> know if it would work? A 290 hp Delorean sounds pretty good to me.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Marc
> d16y8@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:25:24 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Any information on Scientific Automotive? or Ben Byrd?
Looking through a collection of papers and things I have collected about
the D, I found a catalog from a company called "Scientific Automotive" .
The catalog (Summer 1985) has a number a interesting after market items
listed.. Page 6 really caught my attention. A rebuild they call the
"Killer", with forged pistons, and a modified cam. The claim is that in
conjunction with the BAE turbo kit (that they sold) you could double
your horsepower.
A search of the archives revealed the following:
On 1/9/96 Michael D. Myjak wrote:
> Yes. Try Future Tech in Pompano Beach; Terry Spangler runs the
> place. He took it over from Ben Byrd. Ben claims to have been the 15th
> man hired at DMC. He he lost his job with the demise of DMC and open
> up shop. I believe he began retro-fitting single and twin turbos into
> the D's. He even designed a system using a built-up muffler and a 280Z
> turbo. Until the EPA came looking for him and all those catalytic
> converters he removed... he was doing quite well.
Does anyone have any information on the aftermarket parts sold by
Scientific Automotive? Were they custom designed? or borowed parts?
They also sold a Stainless Steel pannel that covered up the lower rear
of the car, so the frame and other stuff is not visible. That looks
like another interesting modification.
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:14:40 EST
From: ROBLAMROCK@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Last 24k gold D
In a message dated 12/27/98 9:25:11 PM GMT, you write:
<< But from what I could tell from the "Official" Texas Gold DeLorean
website,
that one has a Black interior. Can anyone who has seen that car confirm
this?
>>
<<The 3rd D (the last one built) wasn't part of the promotional, just a
special car. Does anyone know if the 3rd gold D had the brown leather
or was
it just another car built out of regular D parts? I heard that they
built it
using the spare parts intended for the 2 gold D's. If so then the last D
would have the brown leather, right?>>
The Texas Gold DeLorean has the standard black leather interior.
The third Gold DeLorean is an automatic VIN 20105 built by Consolidated
International with spares they held. It sports a saddle and brown
interior.
It was a raffle prize held by Consolidated in December 1985 and won by
Charley
Greene. He sold it to Harry Kauffman Motors of Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Richard
Ruby of New York then bought the car and sold it to Carl Winters of
Maryland.
Happy new year,
Robert Lamrock
Belfast, Ireland.
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:14:39 EST
From: ROBLAMROCK@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Last car.
In a message dated 12/26/98 5:11:40 PM GMT, you write:
<< VIN# 20104, does anyone know where this car is? Does someone on the
list
own it? >>
Jeff Abrams of Consolidated owned the first and last car ever produced.
Best wishes,
Robert
Belfast
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:34:30 EST
From: KKoncelik@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Stainless Steel
Anyone going to the Crawford Museum in the next few months to see the
DeLorean
will be disapointed. I just was there over the holiday and it was not on
exhibit. Its being cleaned up and is not scheduled to be back out for a
few
months.
The other two stainless cars mentioned are still there
Ken
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:48:48 EST
From: GullwingD@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: bttf and stuff
No cars was in mind for the role. The original idea for the time machine
was
a refrigerator! Steven Spielberg said " We dont want kids jumping into
refrigerators after seeing the movie". So he idea of a car came up. The
DeLorean was the only and best choice.
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:49:14 EST
From: DeLorean31@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: DeLorean in new video game...
In a message dated 98-12-28 13:09:17 EST, you write:
<< Hello,
I just got the sequel to the video game "Carmageddon" called
"Carmageddon
II
Carpocalypse Now" and was surprised to see a DeLorean as one of the
optional
vehicles. They made a few changes to it...long spike-like teeth on the
front
and if my D went as fast as this one, I'd be stopped every time I drove
it.
The game even lets you open the doors!!
It's a cool game and worth checking out.
mATT
>>
By the way I have the new game Need For Speed 3 I found a website where
you
can download optional cars to use in the game. One of the cars available
is
the Back To The Future Delorean. It works great in the game. Hee is the
website if you want to take a look.
http://pages.infinit.net/trex/bat.html
Gary
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:59:10 EST
From: Elgocho@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: bttf and stuff
Beau,
From what I've heard and read the Delorean was used in the movie because
of
it's futuristic look and resemblance to a space ship. If you remember the
scene where Marty first gets to 1955 and ends up in Ol' Man Peabody's
barn,
the family believes the De is a flying saucer (also, don't forget, the
stainless steel body helps the flux dispersal).
I don't think any other car was considered to be the time machine. The
original time machine, in the early drafts, was a laser that shot energy
directly at the person making them able to time travel. Later in the
story the
person sat inside a souped up refrigerator and the laser was promptly
placed
above. This was changed 'cause the filmmakers feared that little kids
would
clime into fridges trying to imitate the movie and get trapped. I guess
someone decided to use a car and the De was perfect for it.
If the font you are wondering about is the one used in the Back To The
Future
title I think I read something about it at the Fan website. Go to
http://www.bttf.com/about.htm
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:34:28 -0600 (CST)
From: Spencer Smith <nsxtasy@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: motor swap question
At 08:04 PM 12/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Dec 1998, Marc Barth wrote:
>
<snip>
>> Does anybody know if the V-6 from the Acura NSX would fit? Obviously
>> there would have to be custom mounting brackets etc. . but does anybody
>> know if it would work? A 290 hp Delorean sounds pretty good to me.
>
If thats not an opportunity for introducing myself, I dont know what
is.
Yes, an NSX engine will fit. I have a friend with a Delorean, and I
have an NSX. He asked the same question, and we measured. A few
custom brackets, and jettison the passenger seat to make space for
the needed electronics, and in it goes.
And, yes, it is expensive, at $28,000 for the engine, less electronics.
Add another $10K and you can bolt on a Comptech Supercharger
and generate about 380hp at the crank.
Thats the good news, you would have a fast off the line DMC. The
bad news is that the NSX engine/tranny allows speeds in excess
of 160MPH, and the DMC would be very unstable at such speed.
Relatively speaking of course.
A cheaper, and still quite effective, solution would be to install the
engine/tranny/drivetrain from a 300ZX-TT.
spencer smith, 95NSX-T
p.s. My friend wants a DMC die cast model, any suggestions?
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:05:42 -0500
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Just Venting...
I have been spending some time making calls and talking to people (in
the states) about performance modifications to the PRV6.
The Experts are few and far between, but I just got off the phone with
someone from a Peugeot specialty shop, and he was telling me that the
racing history of the PRV6 includes some 750HP configurations.
750hp!! Yeesh!! I just want a measly 300HP, That is less than HALF!
The feeling I get is that this motor is so popular in Europe, that there
are many part swaps that can be made from other cars to improve the
performance. The problem is that there are not a whole heck of a lot of
Peugeot's in North America (it seems).
I am guessing there are not enough DeLoreans in Europe for anyone over
there to have pursue hi-performance modifications to the PRV6 setup in
the Delorean.
If 750HP is possible out of a PRV6 (on the outside, of course) then it
has GOT to be cheaper to modify the PRV6 instead of swapping motors with
Chevy SB, Buick 3.8, and any of the other possibilites the list has come
up with.
OK, im done (for now).
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:48:02 -0600
From: "Steve Seikel" <seikel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Oct. 81 service - wrecked
Well, I was driving my 81 Delorean at night on our little bypass in =
oklahoma here, this idiot with a wood door in the back of her pickup =
fell out and hit my car, the only body damage was the air foil under the =
car. Her insurance is taking forever to get it fixed, and they cant =
provide me with a rental, being I am 18... well .. it just was a big =
bummer. all new radiator hoses, new radiator, rear axel was messed up, =
and the fans up front. Hopefully it will get done quick, also if any =
one is in northeastern oklahoma soon, mabey they could stop by and take =
a look at my car (after being fixed). I dont really have any other cars =
to 'compare' with. thanks
steve seikel
vin# 5279
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:26:05 EST
From: Elgocho@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Time Machine
If anyone would like to know, there's this guy at Universal Studios
Hollywood,
Steven Kirk, who's working on the renovation of the car. He's the same guy
that is organizing Future Fest '99.
bosch<===
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:15:23 EST
From: DMC3309@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Ditzler paint
The ditzler color you are looking for should be 33584.
Robert vin3309
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:47:45 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Wilson <fluffy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Transmission Layout?
Does anyone have a picture of a DeLorean 5-speed transmission up on the
web somewhere? I am looking for an idea of how the transmission is
shaped. I want to know where the input shaft is in relation to the
output. I'm assuming it's a transaxle, where the output is at a 90 degree
angle to the input... right? :} Any pointers would be appreciated. :)
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:57:56 -0600
From: "Lane Ongstad" <longstad@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Looking for sheepskins source
As I was climbing into the cockpit the other day I noticed that despite =
my customary cautious entry technique, the gray leather of my seats is =
beginning to show some wear -- the solution?? How about some spiffy =
sheepskins!! The problem -- where do I find something that fits =
reasonably well? I know that DMC did produce original sheepskins but =
have no intention of even trying to locate a pair at a reasonable price. =
After perusing the car mags I find lots of suppliers at around $99 but =
no one knows how well they might fit a D. Before I cough up the money =
i'd like some assurances that they might fit -- so............. can =
anyone offer some suggestions, sources, experiences?? Thanks
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:29:10 EST
From: CBL302@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Hardcastle&MCcormick Delorean
Hardcastlle and McCormick was a TV series,that ran between
1983-1986,orignally
they had a
custom built low slung car,that I don't know what it was,but in the TV
series
it was called the coyote and as such,it had that also on the side of the
car,and as the series was for three years,Brian Keith,the star actor was
complaining about trying to get in and out of the car,so they had George
Barris,the famous custom car designer/maker come up with something that
looked
close to the original coyote,but easy to get into,that's where the
Delorean
comes in,
George Barris got a stock Delorean,and customized it into a car that
looked
like the original coyote and only one Delorean based coyote was made,It
was
one of the most radically altered deloreans.Hope that answers your
question.
Claude
000570
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:50:11 -0600 (CST)
From: rockinrandle@xxxxxxxxx (rockin randle)
Subject: DML: VH1,Cheryl Crow,Pinto ..Ugh!!!
I just caught the end of the video for "My Favorite Mistake" on VH1's
Mixology show. For those of you who missed it ..they played the song and
inserted clips of various subjects, I seen the part of autos. First they
show the Edsal, ten t gets smashed in a junkyard, then they show the
Pinto getting rear-ended and blowing up in pieces. Then they show the
Delorean on what looked like a turntable at a auto show, after a few
seconds of hat they show a black and white video of some man getting
handcuffed in some sort of sting scene. I don't know if it was a an
actual FBI tape but I was personally offended by the whole video
regardless..Oh well just thought I'd pass it along!
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:55:26 -0800
From: Luke Soasey <lsoasey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Power loss and whine
I've got a new problem with my engine that maybe someone could help me
with. I've found similar problems mentioned in the archives, but no
solutions were to be located. There are two things which have started
happening at about the same time, although I am not certain if they are
related or not...
My first problem has to do with severe power loss during the first 10
or so minutes of driving. I usually experience this after the car has
sat undriven in the garaged for more than two or three days. The engine
starts with no problem and even seems to idle normally, but as soon as I
try to accelerate to speed it acts like I'm running on one cylinder. If
keep my foot on the gas the engine will continue to struggle for about 4
seconds and then suddenly leap forward with normal power. Every time I
come to a stop this will happen again. After about 10 to 15 minutes of
driving the problem goes away and wont return unless I let the car sit
again for two or three days.
My second observation is an intermittent high pitched whine that seems
to be at its worst when I experience the power loss problem. The sound
comes from the engine compartment and changes pitch with the engine
speed. I am familiar with the sound of slipping belts, and this doesn't
really sound like that. Is it possible that this is a vacuum leak?
Has anyone seen and/or fixed this type of problem before? Is there
anything in particular that I can check? I appreciate any advice that
the list members could provide.
Thanks,
Luke Soasey
#4955
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:25:46 +0100
From: j.vanderWerff@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: New to the list
Hello there,
I live in the Netherlands (Europe) and my father and I just bought a
DeLorean about a month ago, so now I am learnig about the car all I can. I
already spent several hours reading the backissues of this list. That is
very helpful, lots of information. I was very pleased to notice that
generaly only minor things have to be repaird on a DeLorean (exept if you
have a rusted frame of course). Much of the things I read about where
quite
familiar.
Our DeLorean is VIN 1095, built in april '81, 5 speed. It is painted red
with black interior. The car does not have the windshield antenna, instead
there is an antenna on the right front fender. It looks like somebody
tempered with the windshield, I think they added the antenna later after
replacing the original windshield. The previous owner imported the car
from
the UK in spring of 1998 (the car is lefthand driving) anybody knows
something of the history of this specific car ? It is in good shape, but
needs some work on the normal things (speedo dosn't work, wirering is a
mess, ventilation dosn't work well, a little rust on the edges of the
frame,
etc.). The engine runs fine.
The doorlocks of the car have been ripped out (lost key's we'v been told).
We plan to install an alarmsystem with remote control that wil also
activate
the solenoids of the doorlocks. The doorlocks then are obsolete and the
holes will be filled up. Anybody has some experience with connecting the
locking system of the DeLorean to an alarmsystem ?
Most gauges on the instrument cluster don't work well, the tach remains
always on 4000 rpm and most of the other gauges point out of scale. Since
half of the fusebox has been melted down I am afraid that the gauges are
burnt up. Is there a way to check the gauges for proper working ? Have
there
been other cars that used the same electronic components inside the
gauges ?
John
j.vanderwerff@xxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:30:10 -0700
From: mike atkinson <mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Dash Cover
Been checking the archives about dash covers and found a few things.
Many were a couple of years old. I'm curious if today there is one that
seems to be the most popular or perhaps a better made/fit dash cover.
Thanks
Mike Atkinson
VIN16232
mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:44:46 +0000
From: JOHN_GEULEY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Re: Drive Shaft (CV Joint problem) (HELP!!)
Item Subject: DML: Re: Drive Shaft (CV Joint problem)
Hi Scott,
I appreciate your comments .....
However you live in the USA.. I live in UK !!
When you take the price of a part in US add shipping add Import Duty
it becomes expensive..(Even if the $ price is a good one)
Especially when most of the engine etc was made over here in Europe.
Which is why I like to explore the 'non import' route first before
shipping parts half way around the world every 5 minutes..
Regards
John G.
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 04:41:45 PST
From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: VIN 00557 IS 00556 !
(See my earlier posting.) There's a mistake - VIN00557 IS REALLY
VIN00556!
Now, for the big question - does anyone on the list have any info at all
on VIN 00556 - who the car was assigned to (DMC executives or dealers) ?
Sincerely;
Mr. Stian Birkeland
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:42:43 -0600
From: Allan Nelson <abnelson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: 1983 Corvette
Michael Pack wrote:
snip
The DMC Twin Turbo was supposed to be the 1984 DMC. Ever wonder why
there is no 1983 Chevrolet Corvette? Why did GM "re-design" the Corvette
for 1984? Compare the WARRANTY and the PERFORMANCE DATA between the
"1984 Vette" and DMC #502. Twin Turbo 1984 DMC had a five year 50,000
mile warranty, who cares what the "Vette" had.
snip
As a DeLorean enthusiast (not an owner), I thoroughly enjoy reading this
list. I've learned more about these unique cars than I ever though I
could without owning one. While I am a DeLorean fan, I am also a
Corvette fan and I have to comment on Michael Pack's post in digest
#459.
There was no 1983 Corvette because of a simple case of schedule
slippage. The changeover from the 1982 model was a major one that
started in 1978. By the time the 1983s pilots were run (there WERE 40+
1983s built, essentially identical to the 1984s), the 1984 model year
was only 7-8 months away. Rather than building a relatively few 1983
models and changing over to 1984 model production a few months later,
the 1983s were dismantled (except for one which is on display at the
National Corvette Museum) and 1984 production began in March of 1983.
I don't believe that the threat of a turbocharged DeLorean (or its
warranty) had any effect on the Corvette's production schedule.
I think the DeLorean has plenty of virtues to praise on its own without
bashing a 46-year-old American performance legend.
I am in no way trying to offend any of you fine folks, including Mr.
Pack. I sincerely appologize if I have. Thank you all, especially Mr.
Espey, for a wonderful forum and resource for a very fine automobile.
Allan Nelson
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:31:45 EST
From: Jimbo0946@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Mustang
DMLer's
I would just like to say that yesterday afternoon I was stopped
at a
light on the highway, and next to me was a 1996 white mustang (base
model).
When the light turned green, we took off and I left her in the dust of my
D.
No turbos on my car. Anyway, made me feel good, knowing we could beat a
mustang.
Jim
VIN #15880
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 98 12:24:26 -0000
From: Kirk <kirker@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: The DeLorean: Gold Portfolio - buy it online!
"The DeLorean: Gold Portfolio" is available online at:
www.motorbooks.com
Search on "delorean" and it is the only choice that comes up. It is
$24.95 plus shipping. For non-US buyers, particularly those in the UK, it
is also avaialble at:
www.amazon.com.uk
It is 13.95 POUNDS - about $22 USD, plus shipping.
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:27:33 -0600
From: "Duke" <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Dash Cover
Mike,
I ordered mine about 2 or 3 months ago from a company called "Dashmat" and
it fits perfect! I believe it costs $15 or $20 but is well worth it.
They
even have a website: www.dashmat.com or you can call them at
1-800-DASHMAT.
Hope this helps,
Duke
- -----Original Message-----
From: mike atkinson <mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: DMCNews <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 1:12 PM
Subject: DML: Dash Cover
>Been checking the archives about dash covers and found a few things.
>Many were a couple of years old. I'm curious if today there is one that
>seems to be the most popular or perhaps a better made/fit dash cover.
>
>Thanks
>
>Mike Atkinson
>
>VIN16232
>
>mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:55:27 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Power loss and whine
Luke,
The next time your start your engine cold listen for a buzzing sound
coming
from the right rear side of the engine, if you do not hear the buzzing
sound your fuel enrichment circuit is not working, this will cause severe
hesitation when accelerating especially when the engine is cold. The high
pitch noise is probably due to a defective bearing in either the lower of
upper idler pulley, these are the pulleys that the AC belt goes around. To
be sure this is where the noise is coming from remove the belt. Both of
these problems are common and relatively inexpensive and uncomplicated to
correct.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Happy Holiday's / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:19:06 -0800
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Dash Cover
At 02:30 AM 12/29/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Been checking the archives about dash covers and found a few things.
>Many were a couple of years old. I'm curious if today there is one that
>seems to be the most popular or perhaps a better made/fit dash cover.
>
>Thanks
>
>Mike Atkinson
>
>VIN16232
>
>mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
reply:
Hi Mike,
I went threw the same thing when I realized that it would only be a matter
of time before the sun got my dash.
I decided to get some gray headliner material and make one for my self. As
you can see by the attached pictures (James will remove my photos for the
list, but this Cc: will still have them) the dash cover I made fits
perfectly, is very smooth and has a black trim, defrost and vent slots.
Lee
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:59:49 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Looking for sheepskins source
Lane,
If your looking for real sheepskins you will have spend more than $ 99. I
have a source for 100% sheepskins that fit the DeLorean at $277. less
shipping. If your interested contact us directly for further information.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Happy Holiday's / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:06:55 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: New to the list
John,
Congratulations on your new DeLorean, we will try to answer some of your
questions. Early cars were fitted with a windshield antenna, these proved
to
be inferior. As a quick fix exterior antennas were placed on the right
front fender, finally a motorized unit was fitted to the left rear fender.
Connecting the door lock system for external operation is relatively
simple, but I would not use the factory control unit. There is an upgraded
replacement called the Lockzilla sold here in the states which should be
fitted to the car first. It is very unlikely that all of the gauges are
bad. They are all wired through fuse # 5, check to see that this fuse is
not blown. The entire instrument cluster was manufactured by AC Delco,
the
electric division of General Motors, unfortunately the set up is custom to
the DeLorean with no substitutes.Most problems related to the ventilation
system can be corrected by replacing the AC/Heat mode switch located below
the radio.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Happy Holiday's / dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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