dmcnews-digest Tuesday, July 14 1998 Volume 03 : Number 388
In this issue:
DML: UPDATE ON DICK RYAN'S (RADDAD) BIKE RIDE
Re: DML: UPDATE ON DICK RYAN'S (RADDAD) BIKE RIDE
Re: DML: engine upgrades
DML: Re: engine upgrades
DML: Anbody here live in Berlin?
[none]
Re: DML: Re: engine upgrades
DML: 81 D at car show
Re: DML: DELOREAN WANTED!!!
Re: DML: Re: Not Again!
DML: Re: Window repair
DML: Alternators
DML: Not again progress
DML: A/C drain tube
DML: Not Again!
[none]
DML: Delorean spotted
DML: Fuel Filter Banjo Fitting and Replacement
DML: lee's fuel problem
Re: DML: Delorean spotted
Re: DML: UPDATE ON DICK RYAN'S (RADDAD) BIKE RIDE
DML: Transmission Shifting Problems
DML: car shipping
DML: Luggage Rack Straps -- Warning
DML: DeLorean... please help!!!
DML: DeLorean Models
Re: DML: A/C drain tube
Re: DML: Fuel Filter Banjo Fitting and Replacement
Re: DML: Fuel Filter Banjo Fitting and Replacement
DML: Re: Transmission Shifting Problems
DML: Firestar 500
Re: DML: DeLorean Models
DML: Re: Fuel Filter Banjo Fitting and Replacement
DML: Road test
DML: WAXING DELOREANS
DML: Windshield washer pump solution
DML: Factory Luggage?
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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 98 23:29:51 -0700
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: UPDATE ON DICK RYAN'S (RADDAD) BIKE RIDE
I received this update on Dick Ryan and his cross-country bike ride from
his wife Leslie. For those new to the list, Dick Ryan is a longtime
DML'er who is on a cross-country bike ride for charity with several
hundred other bicyclists. As if doing a cross-country bike ride at age
65 wasn't daunting in istself, DIck also has an artifical leg!
Please note the bit at the bottom about emailing him for his 65th
birthday - let's remind Dick that we haven't forgotten about him!!!
*********************
He just crossed the state line into Minnesota today. Minessota folks are
so
cool; they welcomed the Big Ride with Polka Music and signs that said Uff
Da and You Betcha. The ride is approaching the 2,000 mile mark. The riders
average 80 miles a day. Dick is doing really well. He has had two falls
(which wounded his pride) and has discovered that he has a "50 mile butt."
At this point he says it is more mental than physical to keep going. He is
very determined and I have no doubt he will complete the ride. The ride
ends in Washington DC on August 1st.He sounds wonderful and enthusiastic
on
the phone. He's had a few very rough days but all in all stays very
positive. They have encountered all kinds of weather including snow and
funnel clouds.
I hope everyone who can will email him a Happy Birthday
wish. He will turn 65 on July 14th. The email address is bigrider@xxxxxxx
and in the subject line, type Richard Ryan #1561. Email several days
before
the 14th as it takes several days for delivery. (It's like a general post
office.) He is not able to respond to email but enjoys receiving them.
Many thanks,
Leslie Ryan
************************************
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 12:31:38 -0400
From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: UPDATE ON DICK RYAN'S (RADDAD) BIKE RIDE
What's the route? It would be great if a few DMLers were to
showup somewhere along the line to cheer him on. I'm sure
that he would recognize the car!
Richard
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 12:44:44 +0000
From: Brian Galbiati <briang@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: engine upgrades
WaKeRz wrote:
>
> Hello.
> Has anybody ever upgraded the engine in the DMC12.
>
> if you have or you have heard of someone who has altered the engine in any
> way, can you email me and describe. thank you.
>
> ( I would like to put the chevy 4.3L V6 in the trunk, or if it can fit a
> 5.0 302 V8.... hehehe 250 ponies behind a delorean!)
>
>
>
> Yours anyway you like it, Jon Elam
> ---------------------------
> <elam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~elam>
My name is Brian, I currently do not own a d yet, but I am planning on
buying one in the next 6 - 8 months.
Now, I am a little fuzzy on a few things. Since I do not own a d I am
not familiar how the engine looks in the rear compartment. Is it a side
mounted engine and tranny like in late 80's caddys and delta 88's, or is
it a rear facing motor. If it is I need to know roughly what the drive
trasin looks like.
I am somewhat knowledgeable when it comes to motors, but a few factors
have to come in to play for a lets say chevy 350 or big block to be put
in the d.
The rotation of the crank has to be the same. The chevy 350 is clockwise
from the front the motor in the dmc has to also be the same, clockwise
from the front of the motor, not the car. If this is so, you could,
space permitting, do anything you want with a good machine shop behind
you. The tranny will not bolt up unless you change the bell housing
obviously, though I wouldn't recommend using the dmc trans. I had a
6cyl. in my firebird, with a 5-speed, I pulled the motor, dropped in a
chevy 350, with a bellhousing from a iroc(which has a v8). It bolted up
fine. Here's where the problems start. I have a 10 1/2" flywheel with
an 8" clutch disc. The spline on the transmission is metric, and since
no v8 motors have a metric splined transmission, I had to use the 8"
disc. Needless to say the car flew, no slippage on the clutch, due to a
strong pressure plate. After a few hole shots I blew the first clutch
disc apart. The little springs around the center, which absorb the
initial shock of engagement, literally stretched and wrapped around the
shaft.
This happened 2 more times, not to mention the fact I went through a
nice posi rear.
I ended up changing the transmission to a 5-speed from a v8 H.O. camaro,
which has an standard spline, and can accept clutch discs up to 12",
obviously I used a 10 1/2" since that is the biggest that I could fit.
If the crank rotation is the same, and you have the right machine shop
to fabricate the mounts, you probably could get a bigger motor in though
I would recommend changing the trans.
If someone could e-mail me a copy of the drivetrain I could give it a
look over and see what could be done without doing a complete frame-off
stock car re-build. I'd like to keep the d looking stock myself, but
with a few horses and some nice torque in the back.
Brian
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 07:17:19 -1000
From: "Thomas Smithson" <tsassoc@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: engine upgrades
Jon, there's a DeLorean in Olympia, WA with a chevy 4.3 in the engine
compartment with a supercharger reportedly devolping about 300 hp.
Thom Smithson
VIN #3089
- -----Original Message-----
From: WaKeRz <elam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Friday, July 10, 1998 8:39 PM
Subject: DML: engine upgrades
>Hello.
>Has anybody ever upgraded the engine in the DMC12.
>
>if you have or you have heard of someone who has altered the engine in any
>way, can you email me and describe. thank you.
>
>( I would like to put the chevy 4.3L V6 in the trunk, or if it can fit a
>5.0 302 V8.... hehehe 250 ponies behind a delorean!)
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 11:59:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: WaKeRz <elam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Anbody here live in Berlin?
does anybody on this list live in Berlin?
Yours anyway you like it, Jon Elam
---------------------------
<elam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~elam>
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:23:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [none]
>
>What's the route? It would be great if a few DMLers were to
>showup somewhere along the line to cheer him on. I'm sure
>that he would recognize the car!
>
>Richard
Sender: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Precedence: list
Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Dick is in New Ulm, MN today July 12 and it is a day off. The rest of the
itenary follows:
July 13 Owatonna, MN July 22 Napoleon, OH
July 14 Winona, MN July 23-24 Sandusky, OH
July 15 Viroqua, WI July 25 Chagrin, OH
July 16-17 Madison, WI July 26 Canfield, OH
July 18 Belvidere, IL July 27 Washington, PA
July 19 Lisle, IL July 28-29 Confluence, PA
July 20 LaPorte, IA July 30 Flinstone, MD
July 21 Kendallville, IA July 31 Frederick, MD
August 1 Washington, DC
Thanks for your interest. Leslie
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 16:10:11 EDT
From: Sigma4OV@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Re: engine upgrades
Check out most any DeLorean page w/pics from the June Cincinatti D-show.
(Ken
Montgomery has some nice pics on it)....Theres a pic of a D-w/a
supercharged
(I believe Chevy) engine in it! The car has been customized just a
"smidge
bit" too much for my personal tastes, but is still nice. Anyway, it has
been
done! Check it out!
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 16:55:36 -0500
From: Steve Brodsky <impact.auto@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: 81 D at car show
saw a pretty nice 81 for sale at the car show at the ball park in
arlington (tx) sat morn. is the owner on the net?
steve brodsky 10688 82
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 15:32:31 EDT
From: TMaynor429@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: DELOREAN WANTED!!!
i have a 1981 delorean for sale i paid 12000 for it would sell for 10.000
no
less let me know
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 01:10:44 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Not Again!
You can still run the test as I indicated to determine if your problem is
fuel pump related. As I had mentioned before, go back to your electrical
compartment and locate the RPM relay (black or green plastic cover with a
blue multi pin connector)
located near the rear section. Hook up a test light between the any ground
wire and the white/blue wire in the multi pin connector. If the lamp
lights
than you'll know that there's voltage going to your fuel pump. If the
light
does not come on than you localized the problem.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 01:53:32 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Window repair
John,
Sounds like poor workmanship. The misalignment of your window was due to
an
"off track condition". The coffee grinder sound is what we call
"ratcheting". The gear assembly is not meshing properly and is self
destructing. You probably have a factory set up, it would be advisable to
replace the unit with the improved version available from the major
DeLorean part suppliers.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:16:02 +0100
From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Alternators
DMCers,
I have caught some of the comments on the list over the past few weeks
about alternators ... seems to be accepted that the standard Brit. item
is less than perfect!
What is the general consencus on an appropriate replacement?
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:08:53 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Not again progress
Sunday 3PM PDT
At this point my just quitting while on the open road and running
perfectly
problem has narrowed some.
The IGN system is fine, timing, spark, and all that appear to work OK and
It appears that I have better than half a tank of gas.
The engine fires right up with an once of gas down the pipe! all systems
seam to function until that once is used.
My next attack will be on the fuses and then an attempt to see if the fuel
pump is running.
Now I can try Joe's test but I have to make a trouble lite I usually use a
meter for checking circuits.
Lee
81DMC-12
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 23:23:37 -0500
From: thgraham@xxxxxxxx (Travis Graham)
Subject: DML: A/C drain tube
In an effort to rid VIN #6344's "curse" (standing water in the floorboard
after any A/C use), I am trying to clean out the A/C drain tubes. I have
dealt with the hose that is under the passenger-side wheel well (which I
believe connects to item # 17 on Section 7-1-2 of the parts catalogue).
According to the book, there is also a "plenum drain tube" (item # 36 in
the
same section). The problem is that I can't seem to find it, though with
the
90% humidity outside, I usually give up after about 60 seconds of
searching... Where is this tube and how can I get to it?
Thanks,
Travis Graham
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 21:50:03 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Not Again!
At 05:09 PM 7/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
>An inductive timing light is a good investment that can be used to test
>the
>ignition. Inductive lights have a clamp that wraps around a spark plug
>wire
>rather than unplugging the wire on the cheaper variety. If the light
>lights
>while cranking you have spark. With the plugs rather un-accesable on the
>DeLorean, this is an easier route.
>
>Bruce Benson
>
reply:
Good suggestion, I am going to have some time on Sunday to try to track
down the problem.
I have a feeling that the failure of the engine to catch using the
starting
fluid means no spark. I may try a bit of plain ol'e gasoline just to
confirm.
Do you happen to know if just a jumper across the Inertia switch is a
valid
test mode or does something else need to be done?
I am scanning all my back mail looking for the other cut out switches that
I can jump one at a time in an effort to find the problem.
Any other suggestions from any one would be great.
And Joe: I wonder if your light test would work just cranking the engine?
I
was going to pull the access panel and run a lead from the pump to see if
the pump was coming on at start up.
Lee
81DMC-12
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:58:19 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [none]
Sunday 4PM PDT
Oh' my baby runs fine again!
Yep got her running like a kitten again!
Thanks to every one especially Joe for the support.
The least I can do is out line what I did and the results of each step.
For anyone just crossing this thread:
I drive a very well maintained 81 DeLorean late October build with Most
upgrades. About 3 months ago I was marooned 300 miles from home with a hot
DMC that would not start. Got towed home. The repair was mostly inertia
switch and twisted fuel pump line. The fuel pump was replaced with a full
TankZilla along with new sender, all new fuel lines, boot everything.
Two weeks ago while out for the first time, my Delorean just quite in mid
stride at speed with just 48 miles on the current gasoline fill up. Towed
back home to receive TLC.
Today first I checked the fuses and replaced the #1 10amp &# 2 20amp
fuses.
and tried starting....no fire!
Next I fed the intake an once of Gasoline and tried again, .....short
fire!
then dry cranking......
Added a gallon of Gasoline
Next I fed the intake an once of Gasoline and tried again, .....short
fire!
then dry cranking......
Next I replaced the Temp switch DPN 102125. The old one was missing the
'0'
ring DPN 102383. and had very chorded contacts.
Dry cranked again....No fire!
Next I replaced the ECU module, Next I fed the intake an once of Gasoline
and tried again, .....Fire in the HOLE!, I got a good start then the
engine
quit but I could hear the fuel pump running as the engine spun down. Tried
another start, with a tap on the gas pedal......Fire in the HOLE! ...and
running!
I let her idle till worm and then did several restarts. Plenty BIG fire in
Hole now.
I still need to go back and check the fuel tank for Pump pick up leaks
loose fittings etc.
But Now I am happy again!
Wink< Thanks to all again!
Lee
81DMC-12
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:29:16
From: "Ben Williams" <will0847@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Delorean spotted
Hi I live in a city called Tonka Bay in Minnesota. I have spotted two
Deloreans recently. One was driving on county road 15 by the Lafayette
Club and I saw the other one just today on Smithtown road. Believe me I
was very shocked to see two of these beautiful cars near my house. I
never
see them anywhere! I was just wondering if the owners of these vehicles
are on this maling list. Let me know if you are!
Ben Williams
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 01:07:01 -0600
From: "Michael G. Fischer" <Michael.Fischer@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Fuel Filter Banjo Fitting and Replacement
I just replace my fuel filter (what a huge pain!!)
and as luck would have it as soon as I turned the key,
drip drip drip, it was leaking. So obviously I messed
something up, leaking from the banjo bolt on the top.
I tefloen taped the bottom fitting and it appears to
not be leaking, but that banjo fitting is.
While installing I had a tought time getting the banjo
bolt tight and keep the holes lined up. So my question is:
Do the holes in the banjo bolt and the fuel line have to line
up? Is there room in the fitting for the fuel to flow
if they aren't? Any other tips for this seemingly simple, but
actually quite a pain task of changing the filter?
Thanks.
- --
+----------------------------------------------+
| Michael.Fischer@xxxxxxxx |
+----------------------------------------------+
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:40:36 EDT
From: WtrResQ@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: lee's fuel problem
this is for lee w/ the engine that cuts out when he has gas.
i just fixed a similar problem. my 82, that i just recently sot w/ only
2k
miles was doin the same thing. my mech. (here in the bay area of San
Francisco said that i ran out of gas. but i kno how far i had driven and
how
much gas i had in the tank. i then proved it to him by taking him to the
gas
station w/ me when i filled up. i ended up fixing it myself.
i checked to see if the fuel pump(which u get to via the hatch under the
spare
tire), cuz i figured that the pump probly had a hose going to the bottom
of
the tank, to access all of the fuel. well, i thot it(if there was one)
may
have come loose. there was one but it was connected. to make a long
story
short...the line is attached to a large piece of plastic called a baffle.
now
that is supposed to be attached, via a bolt which was melted into the
bottom
of the tank. mine had come undone. i retrieved the washer and
reattached the
baffle to the tank. now i can drive til i realy run out of fuel. feel
free
to email me if u have questions on how to get there....its real easy...im
no
mechanic.
hope this helps.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 03:15:52 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Delorean spotted
At 08:29 PM 7/12/98, you wrote:
>Hi I live in a city called Tonka Bay in Minnesota. I have spotted two
>Deloreans recently. One was driving on county road 15 by the Lafayette
>Club and I saw the other one just today on Smithtown road. Believe me I
>was very shocked to see two of these beautiful cars near my house. I
>never
>see them anywhere! I was just wondering if the owners of these vehicles
>are on this maling list. Let me know if you are!
> Ben Williams
>
reply:
Hay Ben,
You know I have only ever seen one other DMC in my life other than my own
and then it was at a distance and threw a chain link fence going the other
way. As it is with you I only just found out that there was another one
just 20 miles away, but we never met! now the owner move away. There are
maybe 20 DMC's in the bay area, but I have yet to see one on the road.
About the only Time I have any chance at all is when I park in front of a
shop window...Wink<
Lee
Lee
81DMC-12
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:26:00 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: UPDATE ON DICK RYAN'S (RADDAD) BIKE RIDE
GTE is a sponsor of The Big Ride Across America. The provide a very
detailed website which contains lots of information, including up to the
minute reports, details of the route, how to volunteer to help support the
riders physical needs, and how to sponsor the riders. It features daily
updates and pictures. The "Riding Reporter" talks to different riders
every day, so maybe Dick Ryan will be interviewed before it is all over.
The URL is:
http://www.gtebigride.com/index.html
When The Big Ride passes through Ohio one of the stops is just a few
miles from my house. That happens to be on a Saturday. I'm going to talk
to my wife about volunteering as support crew on that day. Raddad and
I have never met face to face, but my DeLorean is sure to grab his
attention.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: 13 Jul 1998 07:57:23 -0500
From: Dave.Sontos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Transmission Shifting Problems
My automatic transmission will not shift until the car gets up to
operating
temperature and then its shifts fine. Until it gets warmed up its like in
a
gear between 1st and 2nd. I can feel a down shift into first gear when I
shift
it manually, but no up shift. I put the lights on the governor and the
lights
go out when they are suppposed to but no shifting. I pulled the pan and
checked the filter, looked clean, and changed the oil with new Dexron III.
After the car is warmed up the transmission shifts perfectly and I can
drive
it all day without any problems. But after it sits all day in the parking
lot
at work I have to sit waiting for it to warm up to drive it.
Now that I've got the engine tuned and running I need help with this
tranmission problem.
Thanks
Dave
VIN 2573
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:29:15 -0400
From: John Murray <jwmurray@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: car shipping
Hello List,
Im moving from Florida to Massachussetts and ned to ship the D.
Anyony have good experience with a particular car shipper. I have been
quoted $675 for regular truck(uncovered) and $1100 for enclosed
transport. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.........
John Murray
VIN#2390
FL Lic 81DMC12
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:38:39 -0400
From: Aldo.Buono@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Luggage Rack Straps -- Warning
The tie down nylon straps that come with the luggage rack will fray
and break after about twenty hours of use.
If you are on a trip, check them regularly.
Better still, do not use them. They are around fifteen years old.
Use 24" bungy straps.
Aldo Buono, President
De Lorean Midatlantic
DMC #14
VIN: 1440
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:39:06 EDT
From: Klutch89@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: DeLorean... please help!!!
I am at the end of a rapidly fraying rope.
You see, I'm in search of a DeLorean. Even that search is a little
tough, but I am also looking for a cheap one. You see, I want the
DeLorean to
be my first car, and I have to pay for it myself. I'm not looking for
anything snazzy... just something with seats, and engine, headlights...
and
that runs halfway good. (Heck, I can replace the headlights, if it comes
to
that!) I'll pound out dents, etc.
I live in NJ, in case you need to know that to find a cheap DeLorean
near
me. I'm willing to travel to New York, Pennsylvania, Deleware,
Maryland...
anywhere along the east coast to find my DeLorean. Any info would be
GREATLY
appreciated!!
Bob
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 23:19:09 +0100
From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean Models
DMCers,
Re. Plastic kits of "BTTF" DeLorean.
Are the DMC memorabilia collectors among you aware of plastic models of
the 'Back to the Future' DeLoreans. Have just seen a shop here in Hong
Kong with a load of these kits. There were 1:24 scale models (making the
DMC about 19cm or 5 1/2" long), as well as smaller ones (seemed to have
a battery motor?!). Made by Aoshima Bunka Kyozai Co.Ltd. in Japan.
Big ones were HK$99 (US$13) and small ones HK$79 (US$10). Are these
kits available to you in USA?
Cheers, IAN
PS. Note to Steve Brodsky ... Having problems emailing you back. Message
gets bounced back to me. Checked your friends address in HK. Telecom
have no listing for him but your address does exist ('Hatton Place',
Po Shan Rd., Mid-levels, HK) ... Good Luck
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 9:23:39 -0600
From: Greg Guillot <gguillot@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: A/C drain tube
Travis,
That tube is located on the firewall (or trunk wall) just about in
the center of the trunk, underneath the fuel pump panel.
You really have to feel around to find the
hole. And I'm sure a hole is all you will find - my drain tube was
missing, and I expect that it just fell out at some point. I
purchased a new one from DMC Houston and installed it, however, I
don't expect it to stay there long. There is nothing to hold the tube
in place, and the rubber is so flexible that it pulls out easily. I
removed the grill from over the plenum chamber and fed it down from
the top of the plenum chamber so that it would hold better. I may try
to find some type of large clip or spring to use to hold it in place,
or possibly a little contact cement on the tube will do it.
Greg
VIN #2926
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
On 11 Jul 98 at 23:23, Travis Graham wrote:
> In an effort to rid VIN #6344's "curse" (standing water in the floorboard
> after any A/C use), I am trying to clean out the A/C drain tubes. I have
> dealt with the hose that is under the passenger-side wheel well (which I
> believe connects to item # 17 on Section 7-1-2 of the parts catalogue).
> According to the book, there is also a "plenum drain tube" (item # 36 in
> the
> same section). The problem is that I can't seem to find it, though with
> the
> 90% humidity outside, I usually give up after about 60 seconds of
> searching... Where is this tube and how can I get to it?
>
> Thanks,
> Travis Graham
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:16:09 -0400
From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Fuel Filter Banjo Fitting and Replacement
Mike,
If you look at the inside of the banjo, you will see that it
is grooved. Therefore, the answer is that the holes do not
have to line up.
When you replaced the fitting did you have the copper
washers? There are usually washers on both sides of a banjo
fitting. Teflon tape is something to avoid as little
strings of tape can break off & will end up clogging
something down stream at the most inopportune time.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:00:25 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: Re: DML: Fuel Filter Banjo Fitting and Replacement
Michael G. Fischer wrote:
>
> I just replace my fuel filter (what a huge pain!!)
> and as luck would have it as soon as I turned the key,
> drip drip drip, it was leaking. So obviously I messed
> something up, leaking from the banjo bolt on the top.
> I tefloen taped the bottom fitting and it appears to
> not be leaking, but that banjo fitting is.
> While installing I had a tought time getting the banjo
> bolt tight and keep the holes lined up. So my question is:
> Do the holes in the banjo bolt and the fuel line have to line
> up? Is there room in the fitting for the fuel to flow
> if they aren't? Any other tips for this seemingly simple, but
> actually quite a pain task of changing the filter?
> Thanks.
> --
> +----------------------------------------------+
> | Michael.Fischer@xxxxxxxx |
> +----------------------------------------------+
Did you change the copper washer. You are not suppose to reuse them,
when properly seated the washer will crush slightly. Once crushed, they
must be replaced or annealed, which is not practical. Its also
possible, that you have a piece of dirt on one of the surfaces.
Scott
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:26:29 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Transmission Shifting Problems
>My automatic transmission will not shift until the car gets up to operating
>temperature and then its shifts fine. Until it gets warmed up its like in a
>gear between 1st and 2nd. I can feel a down shift into first gear when I shift
>it manually, but no up shift. I put the lights on the governor and the lights
Hmm... I don't know if the light test is foolproof, but I had the same
problem
and it was fixed with a new tranny computer...
Dave
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:57:11 -0700
From: Alex Krochmal <alexk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Firestar 500
I looked around on the web to get information about the DeLorean but
then
I came across a couple websites about a Firestar 500. Does anyone know
anything about it?
Thank You,
Alex
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:23:34 EDT
From: GullwingD@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: DeLorean Models
I sell the back to the future models, all four versions of them. E-mail
me if
interested at GullwingD@xxxxxxx
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:35:31 -0500
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Fuel Filter Banjo Fitting and Replacement
> I just replace my fuel filter (what a huge pain!!)
> and as luck would have it as soon as I turned the key,
> drip drip drip, it was leaking. So obviously I messed
> something up, leaking from the banjo bolt on the top.
> I tefloen taped the bottom fitting and it appears to
> not be leaking, but that banjo fitting is.
> While installing I had a tought time getting the banjo
> bolt tight and keep the holes lined up. So my question is:
> Do the holes in the banjo bolt and the fuel line have to line
> up? Is there room in the fitting for the fuel to flow
> if they aren't? Any other tips for this seemingly simple, but
> actually quite a pain task of changing the filter?
> Thanks.
The copper washers used with the fittings are what seals the joint. I
wouldn't recomend using teflon tape. It won't dissolve and if it's down
stream of the filter will find it's way into the injectors. The filter is
the same as several European cars use so if you lost or discarde the
washers a Volvo or Saab dealer, for example, should have replacements.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:51:03 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Road test
Hi All:
I thought I would comment on todays road test of my "D" after chasing
down a quit with out warning on the road problem.
My DMC started right up, made it to the gas station for a fill up (2
Gals)
with out problem, a trip to the bank and then a quick 6 mile road test. We
did some freeway, town, stop and go and then home. Not a hitch!
There may well still be a problem, but for those of you who like doing
your own work as I do, I trust that both success and failures posted here
will be of help. For my own part I compile all the post dealing with
operational problems and print them out adding them to my DMC service
manual.
I plan some preventive maintenance this weekend including a check of the
fuel tank, fuel pump lines etc..., I will post the results which will tell
us something about the initial repair.
Lee
81DMC-12
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:30:05 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: WAXING DELOREANS
I took Lee's suggestion of waxing my DeLorean last month. It sure was a
lot of work, but looks fantastic.
I got caught in the rain today, in Mobile Alabama, when it rains,
brother it POURS. About two inches in 30 minutes. Oh, it also is 90
degrees out.
My car looks great after the rain, the few water spots that were on it
wiped off.
That is the good part of the day.
I was moving my car from the main garage to the small one where I
usually store it. I had not driven it in a couple of weeks. It started
up and ran great, until I got to the bottom of the drive way, then it
died.
Then it started to rain (see above) and the thunder and lightning were
spectacular. The real problem was that my car was sitting in the middle
of the street and my garage was uphill. So I moved my truck to finish
blocking the street, I live on a deadend, and went inside to dry off and
cool off. I figured I would review the DMCNEWS archieves to get some
ideas. Well, the power went out, for about two hours, so of course no
PC or internet.
When it finaly stopped raining, I bypassed the inertia switch and
checked my relays. Everything was OK. So I ran a dedicated line from
the battery to the fuel pump (hook the wires to the fuel pump first,
then to the battery, you will avoid sparks at the fuel pump) The pump
just clunked, it would not run. Latter this week, I will swap the fuel
pump. I replaced this pump in 1995, I bought it from the DeLorean
supplier that claims to be number one.
I ended up towing my car back up the driveway where it now sits at the
mercy of the elements. I'm sure glad I invested the time in waxing the
stainless, the weather will not affect it as it has in the past.
Thanks Lee, for figuring out how to wax a DeLorean
Scott Mueller
2981
It cranked fine, so I bypassed the inertia switch. No luck, so I
checked my relays, they were fine.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:16:48 EDT
From: CarlIanNew@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Windshield washer pump solution
I have implemented the following windshield washer pump solution for
those who
do not need an original replacement.
1. remove pump from bottle
2. carefully separate motor from housing
3. I hack-sawed off the flare from the pump housing to be more flush (do
not
disturb the nipple
4. Drill out (7/16 I believe) the center of the pump (just far enough to
remove the blade which moves the water.
5. carefully tap the drilled hole (i used a 7/16 x 20 tap)
6. purchase a SS 7/16 x 20 bolt (depth will be <1/2 inch)
7. place rubber O-ring around bolt and tighter to pump housing
8. Insert back into bottle
9. Purchase $7 ANCO WW pump
10. mount to side of WW bottle holder
11. Connect hoses and connections
Good luck & use caution.
Email if more details are needed.
thanks,
carl
DOA #5138
VIN 1704
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 00:22:50 -0400
From: "yugoman" <mdrig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Factory Luggage?
I may be mistaken, but didn't DMC at one point offer a luggage set made
to
fit the D's trunk? If so, anyone know of or have a set?
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