RE: [DMCForum] Re: All people of faith are dumb, and so am I apparently.

["Jack Stiefel" <jackstiefel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Ok I have tried an experiment...

After reading all this over the last few months (or has it been years?), I
have decided that the Forum is disintegrating into a feud between a select
few.  I have a possible solution if anyone is interested...

I started a new Yahoo Group called DMCLounge.  It is also un-moderated, but
with a twist.  NO BAD ATTITUDE!!!  If you have a beef with someone take it
off list.  I have no problem removing members if they cannot stay in some
semblance or order (here is another twist).  I also welcome anyone who
wishes to be added to this list as moderators of sorts to email me
privately.

We are all here to have a good time and enjoy each others lives, not to
fight or rant.  I am not some dictator trying to tell people what to or not
to say, but there are limits.  Lets all learn about Flavias life, Marcs
engine swaps and the Legend Turbo, Bobs new additions to the Time Machine,
VideoBobs newest toys and creations, and Dave's Caddy...  These are the
things that bring us together, not pull us apart.  It is true that we all
have opinions and they will differ, but this place will be a cordial safe
zone.

I feel this can be a bridge or sorts. Free _expression_ with self regulating.
If you want religion, Politics, or other touchy matter, stay here (I am).
But if you are interested in trying this out feel free to join.  Look at it
this way nothing lost by joining in, if it bombs you will rarely see an
email from it lol.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCLounge/



Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Fl
DMC Vin 03461
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-----Original Message-----
From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of cruznmd
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 12:30 PM
To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [DMCForum] Re: All people of faith are dumb, and so am I
apparently.

Is that what you call it Marc, a "difference of opinion"?

I've just been called "dumb" by a young girl whose life experience 
is probably limited to mid-west America and New Jersey who's never 
even met me just because I have faith.

I don't sign my posts with "Jesus is Lord", I don't proselytize and 
I support your right to decide not to follow a faith and I sure as 
hell don't make fun of people who make that decision or make blanket 
statements regarding athiests/agnostics or whatever.

To me, that wasn't a difference of opinon. It was a slap in the 
face. It's exactly the same as being lumped into the same catagory 
as "rednecks" and "hon's" and caucasian modular-home refuse by Mike 
Pack simply because I sometimes attend parking-lot cruise-in's. He's 
met me twice for 5 minutes. We don't have "civil discourse" here. 
It's venomous and denigrating. I try to keep my mouth shut but I'm 
torn between wanting to rise above it, and outrage at being 
indirectly insulted and slandered by many posts that pop up here. 
Sometimes I feel like I have to defend myself even though I haven't 
been directly named.

It's so much safer to make insulting and stereotyping statements 
than to call someone by name isn't it? You people might as well just 
say "Rich is dumb white-trash because he goes to cruise-ins and uses 
religion as a mental crutch because he believes in a God, and he 
doesn't have a college degree."

Personally, I don't feel that 10% mutual interest in something as 
trivial as a car is enough to overcome the other 90% contempt 
someone has for me because of my personal views. Why would I want to 
associate myself with such people?

As far as institutes of "higher education" enlightening people to 
the fact that there is no god, I think what Flavia was trying to 
convey, is that often religion is used as a mental crutch by -some- 
weak minded people who need someone to tell them what to do with 
their lives. I agree, BUT I contend that a college education does 
not eliminate this character flaw. ANY organization could fill that 
void in a weak person's life, including belonging to a protest group 
at a college. What if I said that Flavia was weak-minded and needed 
to get her self-fulfillment by belonging to a group of bigoted 
people who trash people of faith? I doubt she'd enjoy being stereo-
typed by me very much that way.

I'm almost 34 years old and I have visited at least 10 foreign 
nations, I have served in a combat zone, I have stood on the polar 
ice pack at the North Pole conducting science experiments covered by 
National Geographic, and I have -life experience-. I'm so sick of 
large groups of late-teen and early 20-something's who've barely 
been out of their hometowns screaming that they know what's best for 
me just because they watch CNN and because they are attending an 
institute of "higher learning".

That's why I'm done with the social functions.

Rich A.
#5335

--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx> wrote:
> With people who have different opinions on various
> topics of discussion?






 
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