Re: [DMCForum] Re: Videos

["Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry, I dropped the ball.
I have been swamped, and so has my sticker guys.
I was waiting until I had to go in there and make more stuff, and have them 
do those
at the same time.
Will you be at the DMCH open house?
I was planning on trying to take some down there.
- VB

>From: DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@xxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Re: Videos
>Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:35:19 -0500
>
>So how are the JZD tribute stickers coming along or did you decide to
>not make them?
>
>Mark V
>
>
>On May 23, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Videobob Moseley wrote:
>
> > Mark, all of what you are saying is absolutely true.
> > I buy items at wholesale, in some cases I modify them, repackage them,
> > write manuals for each product, advertise it and mark the price up.
> > That is all absolutely true.
> > There is a cost to doing business, and an average markup.
> > What I don't understand is why it is when I do it, it is "highway
> > robbery"
> > but for everyone else it is just business?
> > I don't run a charity here, and there is no charity in indulging people
> > with DeLorean collectables.
> > These are toys, and should be paid for.
> > I am running a business Marc.
> >
> > This is the standard retail business MO.
> > That's how it works, wholesale, retail.
> > The reason I make $8 off a $2 cost of a DVD is because I spent several
> > thousand
> > dollars on a DVD duplication system, with a thermal printer, a color
> > disc
> > printer,
> > a $15,000 computer that runs all this stuff, and I also had to acquire
> > the
> > video,
> > edit it, clean it up, compile it and store it.
> > Then I have to pay to advertise it, pay for my website, pay for monthly
> > bandwidth,
> > pay for ebay and Paypal fees..... so you see it is not all found money.
> > I run a television production studio here.
> > Besides that, I have to take the time out of my day to drive to the
> > disc
> > supplier
> > and invest into stock, I have to take the time to burn and print the
> > discs,
> > put them
> > in envelopes, fill out the labels and take them to the post office.
> > It might not be ditch digging work but it is time consuming.
> >
> > I consider it a service, the people who get to enjoy watching this
> > wonderful
> > video
> > are thankful that they got to see it. Otherwise it would not exist and
> > they
> > would
> > have gone without.
> >
> > You know, you always mention my LED's and how I mark them up.
> > How come no one has ever mentioned that Don Stegar sells a similar set
> > for
> > $39.99?
> > This is $10.00 more than mine.
> > I am willing to bet that almost everything he sells is marked up
> > generously.
> > This is not a jab at Don, I like Don, but I am proving the point that
> > your
> > prejudice
> > is biased because I have never heard you complaining about anyone's
> > else's
> > prices.
> >
> > By the way, Tamir does sell a copy of his own video from his site.
> > It is very good and I recommend it.
> > He also sells the replacement stainless steel labels, or at least he
> > advertises them.
> > I also bought a set of those.
> >
> > I feel that the ability to buy this stuff from each other is a great
> > privilege.
> > I also think that I deserve the chump change I get for profits off of
> > my
> > stuff.
> > If not had been for my researching the LED's and bringing them to
> > public
> > awareness
> > some of you would not have figured out how to circumvent me.
> > Either way I feel I get the credit for it - because NO ONE else was
> > offering
> > these.
> > I feel the same way about my side stripes, no one else took the time
> > to find
> > the material
> > and make exact replicas of the stripes - people COPIED me but I still
> > deserve the credit.
> > I have never seen anyone else make vinyl bumper letters before.
> > The ones I make look fantastic, and only $10.00.
> > You could not get those designed and cut out for $10.00 anywhere - no
> > way.
> >
> > Plus, as a gesture I don't charge for shipping of my products.
> > Most sellers gouge the shit out of you with "shipping and handling" -
> > NOT
> > ME.
> >
> > So as business goes, I think I do good business Marc.
> > I think my prices are fair, and my quality is good.
> > I don't see what it is I am doing wrong and why you don't like it.
> > There is no other explanation other than you had disagreed with me in
> > the
> > past
> > and had become biased against everything I do.
> > It is childish and silly - cut it out.
> >
> > - Videobob
> >
> >> From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Re: Videos
> >> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 05:48:44 -0700 (PDT)
> >>
> >> VB does it for profit.  I don't see how Tamir is
> >> making money off of his site.  He does not even sell
> >> advertising space!
> >>
> >> So, in comparing Tamir to Bob we can say BOTH made a
> >> significant effort in collecting this footage,
> >> digitizing it, and editing it...  Where they diverge
> >> is how they choose to distribute the material.
> >>
> >> Tamir spends his own money (I assume) to host this
> >> material on the Internet.  Large downloads = high
> >> bandwidth = more expensive hosting fees.  Yet, he does
> >> not charge anyone anything.
> >>
> >> Bob buys some blank DVD-R's, copies the video, and
> >> puts it in the mail.  A process that costs about $2.
> >> He is making a $8 per disk profit. (I am only talking
> >> about his disk that contain footage that he does not
> >> own)
> >>
> >> Yes, I know about the time to blah blah blah.. But for
> >> means of comparing Bob to Tamir, those things are
> >> pretty much equal.
> >>
> >> When you look at the DVD sales, along with VB's other
> >> items (over priced items like Antennas, LED's, Radio
> >> Harness), it sets a tone for the way the guy does
> >> business.  IMHO, the profit he demands for doing
> >> minimal research in to sourcing parts is highway
> >> robbery.  It is not like the guy has a R&D facility
> >> where he is inventing a new and better LED.
> >>
> >> And, NO.. My motivation has nothing to do with
> >> religion or Bob's views on social issues, because many
> >> times I agree with him even though I find his
> >> presentation of those opinions are somewhat insulting.
> >>
> >> ... Again, I am not finding fault with Bob the man..
> >> Just some of the things he does.
> >>
> >> --- therealdmcvegas <dmcvegas@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> <SNIP>
> >>> With this said however, I seriously think that all
> >>> things considered
> >>> here, I think that VideoBob has been unfairly gotten
> >>> a bad rap here.
> >>> I honestly do not see the difference between what
> >>> Tamir has done with
> >>> his website, and what VideoBob did for his. Both
> >>> offered up DeLorean
> >>> material that they believed the community was
> >>> interested in. Tamir
> >>> offers short clips for download and distribution off
> >>> of his website,
> >>> and VB offers longer full length videos, available
> >>> on DVD. And of
> >>> course he charges for his time to make said copies
> >>> for others. He's
> >>> had to scan, and encode the video, as well as take
> >>> the time to
> >>> contruct the DVD menus, etc., Just as Tamir took the
> >>> time to scan,
> >>> encode, crop, and upload. And neihter are taking the
> >>> time to lay
> >>> claim to any ownership.
> >> <SNIP>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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