RE: [DMCForum] Re: Videos

["Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for the nice comments....

Just a note, the only thing on my DVD that could be seen on Tamirs site is 
the original TV commercials. Everything else on that video is just special 
interest news stories and talk shows.
I do plan to add more of these to my website for download when I get the 
chance.

Tamir's Eurofest video was very good, but it is very short.
I wish it had been longer.
I also wished he would use Windows Media or Quicktime.
His REAL clips rarely work on my system and are un-watchable when they do.
They are the size of a postage stamp and look like water colors gone bad.
I have less videos, but they are in full screen resolution and consume more 
space
and bandwidth. I figure a fan would rather wait for the download and have it
in a watchable form. Otherwise it is useless and frusterating.

You know, if you check out some other hobby forums and see what people sell
videos for, you would be surprised.
Most special interest videos on a niche' hobby sell for an average of $40 
and up
for a shitty VHS tape.
As a matter of fact, I have paid as much as $80 for some of the DeLorean 
tapes
I have. Most of the VHS tapes I used to make the DVD cost me an average of 
$20
or more each. I took the best of all of the tapes, cleaned them up and put 
them
on a DVD for $10.00
I don't think it is such a bad deal.

The way I price things is, I look at and I ask myself "how much would I pay 
for that?"
...then I sometimes cut it in half.
I figure, if I would consider it for $20.00 I know I would jump all over it 
for $10.00!
Toss in free shipping and you have a mega deal.

In a world where a bottle of water is $2.00, and a cup of coffee is $5.00
and we are paying $50,000 for a Chevy - $10 bucks for my DVD is cheap.

- Videobob

>From: "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [DMCForum] Re: Videos
>Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:56:30 -0000
>
>So, because VideoBob does these things for profit, that faults him
>over Tamir?
>
>Firstly, Tamir does sell products on his site as well. And like the
>antennas & LEDs that people complain about, I don't see a 500 minute
>phone card for $31 dollars being a good value either. And don't
>forget that just like how VB has a video of Pigeon Forge, so does
>Tamir sell one of a Eurofest meet. So the "profit" aspect is a moot
>point. DVD-R vs. VHS tape doesn't change a thing. Just because VB's
>distribution media is an easier/quicker format to copy things to,
>doesn't make VB a *bad* person. Especially when both do technicly
>sell videos, and other for-profit items on their website. Individual
>perceptions of what someone may consider to be "over priced" for both
>unrelated items, and videos has nothing to do with the videos in
>question.
>
>The difference between Video Bob, and Tamir is their distribution
>means. Neither of them own the rights to these videos in question.
>Just as you can say that VB is selling DVDs containing material that
>he does not own, so could you argue that Tamir is using that same
>material for profit on his website. Except for instead of selling
>DVDs that directly contain it, he is using these free clips to
>attract people to his website, in an effort to drive sales of
>products in his online store.
>
>Otherwise, I don't see what VideoBob is doing wrong with these
>videos. You pay a bit more, and end up getting full clips, available
>for viewing on a full TV screen, instead of a RealPlayer window. So
>to me, the price he's asking for these videos is worth it. But more
>importantly, it's just that you'd be paying VB to do the footwork in
>preparing everything for a DVD, that you can keep. So that's worth it
>to me. I don't see a difference in what they're doing at all. Just
>because you don't charge for something, doesn't mean that circumvents
>the nessesity of gaining the proper owner's permission for said
>material.
>
>-Robert
>
>
>
>--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx> wrote:
> > VB does it for profit.  I don't see how Tamir is
> > making money off of his site.  He does not even sell
> > advertising space!
> >
> > So, in comparing Tamir to Bob we can say BOTH made a
> > significant effort in collecting this footage,
> > digitizing it, and editing it...  Where they diverge
> > is how they choose to distribute the material.
> >
> > Tamir spends his own money (I assume) to host this
> > material on the Internet.  Large downloads = high
> > bandwidth = more expensive hosting fees.  Yet, he does
> > not charge anyone anything.
> >
> > Bob buys some blank DVD-R's, copies the video, and
> > puts it in the mail.  A process that costs about $2.
> > He is making a $8 per disk profit. (I am only talking
> > about his disk that contain footage that he does not
> > own)
> >
> > Yes, I know about the time to blah blah blah.. But for
> > means of comparing Bob to Tamir, those things are
> > pretty much equal.
> >
> > When you look at the DVD sales, along with VB's other
> > items (over priced items like Antennas, LED's, Radio
> > Harness), it sets a tone for the way the guy does
> > business.  IMHO, the profit he demands for doing
> > minimal research in to sourcing parts is highway
> > robbery.  It is not like the guy has a R&D facility
> > where he is inventing a new and better LED.
> >
> > And, NO.. My motivation has nothing to do with
> > religion or Bob's views on social issues, because many
> > times I agree with him even though I find his
> > presentation of those opinions are somewhat insulting.
> >
> > ... Again, I am not finding fault with Bob the man..
> > Just some of the things he does.
>
>

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