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That's cool!! I hope that your stores are cleaner then the stores
here in Arkansas. They are so dirty that I hate to even walk in them
because they smell like the dumpsters outside. Up in North Carolina
they have nice Mcdonalds. Cleaner than my room :-) Just kidding.

Josh
10989

--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@xxxx> wrote:
> You are correct John.
>
> Mark V
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2005, at 12:01 PM, John Hervey wrote:
>
> >
> > Mark,
> > How does anyone know that you don't own the McDonalds franchise
that 
> > they
> > work at.
> > A lot of people own them and make a hansom living.
> > John Hervey
> >
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: DMCVIN6683 [mailto:dmcvin6683@xxxx]
> >   Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 12:12 AM
> >   To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   Subject: Re: [DMCForum] De Lorean appearance...
> >
> >
> >   So now your saying i cant afford my Delorean and i work at
McDonalds
> >   because i dont have an extra $5000 to dump in my car.
> >
> >   You really should meet people before you shit talk about them.
> >
> >   I work so my Wife can sit home and work and raise our 1 1/2
year old
> >   and i rather put that $5000 into a bank account than a damn car.
> >
> >   Quit typing like a prick and actually use your brain before you
type
> >   next time.
> >
> >   Remember you just told most of this newsgroup they work at
McDonalds
> >   and they should drive a Chevette because they have higher
priorities 
> > in
> >   life than a Damn Delorean, i dont think anybody's Delorean on
this
> >   forum would meet your standards.
> >
> >   Mark V
> >
> >
> >
> >   On Feb 20, 2005, at 11:40 PM, Videobob Moseley wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> ..as I said, work in progress is at least a plan.
> >> What I am talking about is people who no plans on fixing the car
and
> >> just
> >> let it rot
> >> while they drive it and rig what they need.
> >> I know people will still drive their cars while they are being
worked
> >> on and
> >> they
> >> are not going to be perfect....yeah and I know not everyone is
made of
> >> money
> >> to be fixing up the cars, yadda yadda yadda....
> >> This is a rich mans toy, if you can't afford to play then don't.
> >> That's all I have to say about it.
> >>
> >> It is the few bad apples that make it hard for everyone.
> >> This is true in every aspect of life, and also true for these
cars.
> >>
> >> Hey, it's your car and you can do what you want with it.
> >> Your level of care, pride and dedication will show when people
see
> >> your car.
> >> I am not talking about big money here.
> >> Hell, you can refurbish the whole car for about $5000, if that
kinda
> >> money
> >> is
> >> kicking your ass then you might want to get that Chevette I
mentioned.
> >> It will look more acceptable parked outside your job at
McDonalds.
> >> I would prefer that image that surrounds my car be one of class
and
> >> prestige.
> >> People think the car is worth a whole lot more than it is....but
not
> >> if it
> >> looks like crap.
> >>
> >> -VB
> >>
> >>> From: "timnagin" <timnagin@xxxx>
> >>> Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> To: <DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Subject: [DMCForum] De Lorean appearance...
> >>> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:39:24 -0500
> >>>
> >>> I will agree with some of that, but a lot of people's cars are
works
> >>> in
> >>> process.  I will add another perspective, ironically using the
> >>> Lamborghini
> >>> as well.
> >>>
> >>> I pulled into the Luxor hotel parking lot in Las Vegas and saw
about
> >>> ten
> >>> Lamborghinis, a Maserati, and a couple of Vipers parked in this
> >>> roped-off
> >>> section of the parking garage.  At first I thought it was a
little
> >>> car show
> >>> to attract attention so went to check them out.  Since this was
near
> >>> midnight, the security guard came over and checked us out as
well.
> >>>
> >>> I noticed a Lamborghini Diablo that had near bald tires, faded
paint,
> >>> and
> >>> the front was peppered with rock chips like I have never seen
on any
> >>> other
> >>> car.  I couldn't believe someone would be out in a car like
this.
> >>> Then, I
> >>> spotted a business card stuck on each car and picked one up.
> >>>
> >>> This was a group of people in a Lamborghini Driving Club out of
> >>> California
> >>> that take road trips in their cars.  The wear and tear on the
car was
> >>> from
> >>> use.  That changed my opinion on how that car looked and
actually
> >>> really
> >>> impressed me.  How many people spend that kind of money on a
car and
> >>> really
> >>> drive it?  You would expect to see a pristine Lamborghini
because
> >>> most, I
> >>> would think, are in someone's garage and get driven around the
block
> >>> every
> >>> other year.  What a waste.  I would drive mine.
> >>>
> >>> Jay Leno once said something I thought was pretty cool.  When
asked
> >>> about
> >>> his cars, he stated he likes to fix them up, drive them for a
bit,
> >>> and then
> >>> fix them up again.  After all, they are cars that were designed
to be
> >>> driven.
> >>>
> >>> I do really enjoy seeing De Loreans that are pristine as well
and I
> >>> appreciate those people keeping their cars that way.  Ken's 170
mile
> >>> car
> >>> was
> >>> stunning to me.  I would be too tempted to drive it though.
> >>>
> >>> Greg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Videobob Moseley [mailto:videobob@xxxx]
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:37 PM
> >>> To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: RE: [DMCForum] Re: DMCH open house...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Robert, (vegas),
> >>> this is not a direct reply to you but rather a statement to
everyone,
> >>> so no
> >>> offense.......
> >>>
> >>> I am not about to argue restoration vs. original paint and these
> >>> opinions.
> >>> I agree, an early 1900's Harley or Indian with original paint
> >>> (cracked,
> >>> faded) is worth more
> >>> than one with a stripped restored paint job....
> >>> but I don't think that this same thing applies.....not when
there are
> >>> a
> >>> thousand brand
> >>> new painted fascias stacked up at DMCH.
> >>> ....a few hundred years from now when there are none to be
found, and
> >>> you
> >>> have the
> >>> the only real fascia on the planet and everyone else has
replaced
> >>> theirs
> >>> with a reproduction
> >>> then your faded paint will have some value and respect.
> >>> Until that time when someone looks at your car and sees the
paint
> >>> falling
> >>> off they will think...
> >>> "Gee, the paint is falling right off the car! What a piece of
shit".
> >>> At least, that's what I think.
> >>> There are plenty of 20+ year old cars with all the paint in
tact.
> >>> There is no reason the car should be looking bad when there are
> >>> simple and
> >>> CHEAP
> >>> solutions for all of these problems.
> >>> If the fascias were hard to get, expensive and hard to put on I
could
> >>> understand
> >>> the reasoning for not replacing it, but you can order one from
DMCH
> >>> or a
> >>> refurbished
> >>> one from Josh or others, get it in a few days, and put it on in
> >>> MINUTES.
> >>> I think it only took me about 10 or 15 minutes to put it on.
> >>>
> >>> Considering what it would cost to replace the front bumper
fascia on
> >>> my
> >>> Taurus or any
> >>> other new car, the price for replacing the fascia on the front
of a
> >>> classic
> >>> exotic sports car
> >>> is more than reasonable.
> >>> Ever priced the front bumper of a Lamborghini?
> >>> You can't get one for $700.00 I tell you that.
> >>>
> >>> Speaking of Lamborghini's, I am going to tell my story of the
first
> >>> time I
> >>> saw one (again)
> >>> so that maybe you would understand.
> >>> ......as a kid, I worshiped the Lamborghini Countach.
> >>> I had posters everywhere.
> >>> I told my mom that when I was old enough I was going to get a
tattoo
> >>> of a
> >>> Lamborghini on
> >>> my arm, and the Bull Logo on the other.... (thank God she
would'nt
> >>> let me!)
> >>> When I was 16, I saved up the money to buy one of the kit-cars,
and
> >>> sent
> >>> IFG
> >>> a $1000 deposit.
> >>> Once I realized I would never be able to complete it I had to
forfeit
> >>> the
> >>> money.
> >>> ....so anyway, one day I am driving down the road and I see a
white
> >>> Lamborghini Countach
> >>> parked outside a business. Until then I had never seen one in
person.
> >>> I screeched to a stop and ran over to it, the owner came out to
show
> >>> it to
> >>> me.
> >>> It looked like SHIT. I asked, "is this a replica?".
> >>> "No" he says, "let me show you the engine". He opens the engine
lid
> >>> and the
> >>> engine
> >>> was crusty looking, he fired it up and it sputtered and puffed
smoke
> >>> and
> >>> sounded like
> >>> a Volkswagen bus.
> >>> The interior was all ripped up, cracked, looked like hell.
> >>> I couldn't believe it.
> >>> I was so disappointed. It left a bad taste in my mouth that is
> >>> nothing less
> >>> than bitter.
> >>> I never forgot it.
> >>>
> >>> This is the equivalent to meeting your favorite star and asking
for 
> >>> an
> >>> autograph
> >>> and being told to "fuck off". Imagine how you would feel?
> >>>
> >>> For most people, when they see our cars it is the first and
maybe
> >>> only time
> >>> they
> >>> will ever see a DeLorean.
> >>> It is our responsibility as DeLorean owners to make sure they
are
> >>> presentable and
> >>> reflect the "dream". JZD's "dream" was not to have the car
known as a
> >>> "lemon".
> >>> We have so many hurdles to overcome with the public awareness
and
> >>> misinformation
> >>> about cocaine, and that the cars are lemons, and
unreliable...etc.
> >>> The last thing that I want is someone to see one of our cars
looking
> >>> badly
> >>> and
> >>> and the person will forever say,...."yeah, I saw a DeLorean
once, it
> >>> was a
> >>> peice of shit."
> >>>
> >>> So, I know some of you out there can't afford to to spend money
on
> >>> the car,
> >>> but as long as you understand my point of view and at least make
> >>> plans to
> >>> repair
> >>> and upgrade then you are on the right track.
> >>>
> >>> Here are the most common things that look bad and can be
repaired or
> >>> replaced easily.
> >>>
> >>> * Dash & Binnacle:
> >>> Can be purchased from DMCH or recovered by any upholstery shop.
> >>> Josh sells recovered dashes, binnacles, knee pads, etc.
> >>>
> >>> * Headliner:
> >>> You can recover these yourself very cheap, any auto headliner
place
> >>> can do
> >>> this.
> >>>
> >>> * Seat Covers: $599
> >>> The new DMCH seat covers are one of the best investments you
can 
> >>> make.
> >>> I have them and I always get compliments on them even from
people who
> >>> have
> >>> never seen a DeLorean, they can't believe how fluffy, soft and
supple
> >>> they
> >>> are.
> >>> They are worth every penny. Most auto seat cover places can
install
> >>> them
> >>> for
> >>> under $100.
> >>>
> >>> * Switches: $40 each, (less than $180 for all of them)
> >>> You can replace your window and defroster switches real cheap,
and 
> >>> the
> >>> dummy
> >>> switches can be replaced with working rocker switches that you
can
> >>> use for
> >>> other uses.
> >>> I have seen tons of cars with faded grey and even green moldy
> >>> switches.
> >>> Many previous owners have drilled holes into the dummy switches
and
> >>> installed
> >>> goofy little toggle switches.
> >>> Replace them and wire those switches to the new rockers.
> >>> These are only about $40 each - not a big price for an exotic
sports
> >>> car.
> >>> While you are replaceing them you can straighten out the metal
part
> >>> that
> >>> they
> >>> mount to so they will all be even and straight.
> >>>
> >>> *Carpet:
> >>> You can pull the seats out easy and replace the whole lower
carpet 
> >>> for
> >>> about
> >>> $300 or so.
> >>>
> >>> * Faded Black:
> >>> You can tape off and paint all the little black parts on your
car 
> >>> real
> >>> easy.
> >>> If they are faded gray or white then give them a hit of flat
black.
> >>> They will have a nice texture and look new again.
> >>> (I used the Kent Ureolastic Black Bumper paint that Don Stegar 
> >>> sells.)
> >>>
> >>> *Fascias:
> >>> Replace or repaint them. If they are badly warped, replace them
and
> >>> reinforce them to
> >>> prevent it from happening again.
> >>>
> >>> * Lenses:
> >>> If your taillights are faded and the color is missing, REPLACE
them.
> >>> If your headlights are yellow and foggy, replace them.
> >>>
> >>> * Rims:
> >>> You can repaint your rims yourself, but it is best to have
them 
> >>> powder
> >>> coated.
> >>> I have Don Stegars chromed rims and I get lots of complements,
> >>> however if
> >>> you want
> >>> to keep everything original, you can buy new rims that look new
> >>> cheaper
> >>> than
> >>> you would think.
> >>> Much cheaper than custom rims would cost you for your low rider.
> >>>
> >>> I could go on and on but I think you get the point.
> >>> I have said this before and I always get shit about it, but
it's the
> >>> way I
> >>> feel.
> >>> If you want to have a DeLorean it is your responsibility to
keep it
> >>> up and
> >>> make it
> >>> look good, if you can't afford to drop a few grand into the car
to
> >>> fix it
> >>> up
> >>> then sell it
> >>> to someone who WILL appreciate it and fix it up and buy
yourself a
> >>> Chevette.
> >>> Then you can drive a piece of shit and no one will care.
> >>>
> >>> If you dissagree then get out of the "community", our
togetherness is
> >>> fueled
> >>> by our love for the cars, you don't neglect something you love.
> >>>
> >>> - Videobob
> >>> VIN#5278
> >>>
> >>> PS: Robert, this was not an attack on you personally, just a
general
> >>> statement :>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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