>
> Mark,
> How does anyone know that you don't own the McDonalds franchise that
> they
> work at.
> A lot of people own them and make a hansom living.
> John Hervey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DMCVIN6683 [mailto:dmcvin6683@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 12:12 AM
> To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [DMCForum] De Lorean appearance...
>
>
> So now your saying i cant afford my Delorean and i work at McDonalds
> because i dont have an extra $5000 to dump in my car.
>
> You really should meet people before you shit talk about them.
>
> I work so my Wife can sit home and work and raise our 1 1/2 year old
> and i rather put that $5000 into a bank account than a damn car.
>
> Quit typing like a prick and actually use your brain before you type
> next time.
>
> Remember you just told most of this newsgroup they work at McDonalds
> and they should drive a Chevette because they have higher priorities
> in
> life than a Damn Delorean, i dont think anybody's Delorean on this
> forum would meet your standards.
>
> Mark V
>
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2005, at 11:40 PM, Videobob Moseley wrote:
>
>>
>> ..as I said, work in progress is at least a plan.
>> What I am talking about is people who no plans on fixing the car and
>> just
>> let it rot
>> while they drive it and rig what they need.
>> I know people will still drive their cars while they are being worked
>> on and
>> they
>> are not going to be perfect....yeah and I know not everyone is made of
>> money
>> to be fixing up the cars, yadda yadda yadda....
>> This is a rich mans toy, if you can't afford to play then don't.
>> That's all I have to say about it.
>>
>> It is the few bad apples that make it hard for everyone.
>> This is true in every aspect of life, and also true for these cars.
>>
>> Hey, it's your car and you can do what you want with it.
>> Your level of care, pride and dedication will show when people see
>> your car.
>> I am not talking about big money here.
>> Hell, you can refurbish the whole car for about $5000, if that kinda
>> money
>> is
>> kicking your ass then you might want to get that Chevette I mentioned.
>> It will look more acceptable parked outside your job at McDonalds.
>> I would prefer that image that surrounds my car be one of class and
>> prestige.
>> People think the car is worth a whole lot more than it is....but not
>> if it
>> looks like crap.
>>
>> -VB
>>
>>> From: "timnagin" <timnagin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: <DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [DMCForum] De Lorean appearance...
>>> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:39:24 -0500
>>>
>>> I will agree with some of that, but a lot of people's cars are works
>>> in
>>> process. I will add another perspective, ironically using the
>>> Lamborghini
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> I pulled into the Luxor hotel parking lot in Las Vegas and saw about
>>> ten
>>> Lamborghinis, a Maserati, and a couple of Vipers parked in this
>>> roped-off
>>> section of the parking garage. At first I thought it was a little
>>> car show
>>> to attract attention so went to check them out. Since this was near
>>> midnight, the security guard came over and checked us out as well.
>>>
>>> I noticed a Lamborghini Diablo that had near bald tires, faded paint,
>>> and
>>> the front was peppered with rock chips like I have never seen on any
>>> other
>>> car. I couldn't believe someone would be out in a car like this.
>>> Then, I
>>> spotted a business card stuck on each car and picked one up.
>>>
>>> This was a group of people in a Lamborghini Driving Club out of
>>> California
>>> that take road trips in their cars. The wear and tear on the car was
>>> from
>>> use. That changed my opinion on how that car looked and actually
>>> really
>>> impressed me. How many people spend that kind of money on a car and
>>> really
>>> drive it? You would expect to see a pristine Lamborghini because
>>> most, I
>>> would think, are in someone's garage and get driven around the block
>>> every
>>> other year. What a waste. I would drive mine.
>>>
>>> Jay Leno once said something I thought was pretty cool. When asked
>>> about
>>> his cars, he stated he likes to fix them up, drive them for a bit,
>>> and then
>>> fix them up again. After all, they are cars that were designed to be
>>> driven.
>>>
>>> I do really enjoy seeing De Loreans that are pristine as well and I
>>> appreciate those people keeping their cars that way. Ken's 170 mile
>>> car
>>> was
>>> stunning to me. I would be too tempted to drive it though.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Videobob Moseley [mailto:videobob@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:37 PM
>>> To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: [DMCForum] Re: DMCH open house...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Robert, (vegas),
>>> this is not a direct reply to you but rather a statement to everyone,
>>> so no
>>> offense.......
>>>
>>> I am not about to argue restoration vs. original paint and these
>>> opinions.
>>> I agree, an early 1900's Harley or Indian with original paint
>>> (cracked,
>>> faded) is worth more
>>> than one with a stripped restored paint job....
>>> but I don't think that this same thing applies.....not when there are
>>> a
>>> thousand brand
>>> new painted fascias stacked up at DMCH.
>>> ....a few hundred years from now when there are none to be found, and
>>> you
>>> have the
>>> the only real fascia on the planet and everyone else has replaced
>>> theirs
>>> with a reproduction
>>> then your faded paint will have some value and respect.
>>> Until that time when someone looks at your car and sees the paint
>>> falling
>>> off they will think...
>>> "Gee, the paint is falling right off the car! What a piece of shit".
>>> At least, that's what I think.
>>> There are plenty of 20+ year old cars with all the paint in tact.
>>> There is no reason the car should be looking bad when there are
>>> simple and
>>> CHEAP
>>> solutions for all of these problems.
>>> If the fascias were hard to get, expensive and hard to put on I could
>>> understand
>>> the reasoning for not replacing it, but you can order one from DMCH
>>> or a
>>> refurbished
>>> one from Josh or others, get it in a few days, and put it on in
>>> MINUTES.
>>> I think it only took me about 10 or 15 minutes to put it on.
>>>
>>> Considering what it would cost to replace the front bumper fascia on
>>> my
>>> Taurus or any
>>> other new car, the price for replacing the fascia on the front of a
>>> classic
>>> exotic sports car
>>> is more than reasonable.
>>> Ever priced the front bumper of a Lamborghini?
>>> You can't get one for $700.00 I tell you that.
>>>
>>> Speaking of Lamborghini's, I am going to tell my story of the first
>>> time I
>>> saw one (again)
>>> so that maybe you would understand.
>>> ......as a kid, I worshiped the Lamborghini Countach.
>>> I had posters everywhere.
>>> I told my mom that when I was old enough I was going to get a tattoo
>>> of a
>>> Lamborghini on
>>> my arm, and the Bull Logo on the other.... (thank God she would'nt
>>> let me!)
>>> When I was 16, I saved up the money to buy one of the kit-cars, and
>>> sent
>>> IFG
>>> a $1000 deposit.
>>> Once I realized I would never be able to complete it I had to forfeit
>>> the
>>> money.
>>> ....so anyway, one day I am driving down the road and I see a white
>>> Lamborghini Countach
>>> parked outside a business. Until then I had never seen one in person.
>>> I screeched to a stop and ran over to it, the owner came out to show
>>> it to
>>> me.
>>> It looked like SHIT. I asked, "is this a replica?".
>>> "No" he says, "let me show you the engine". He opens the engine lid
>>> and the
>>> engine
>>> was crusty looking, he fired it up and it sputtered and puffed smoke
>>> and
>>> sounded like
>>> a Volkswagen bus.
>>> The interior was all ripped up, cracked, looked like hell.
>>> I couldn't believe it.
>>> I was so disappointed. It left a bad taste in my mouth that is
>>> nothing less
>>> than bitter.
>>> I never forgot it.
>>>
>>> This is the equivalent to meeting your favorite star and asking for
>>> an
>>> autograph
>>> and being told to "fuck off". Imagine how you would feel?
>>>
>>> For most people, when they see our cars it is the first and maybe
>>> only time
>>> they
>>> will ever see a DeLorean.
>>> It is our responsibility as DeLorean owners to make sure they are
>>> presentable and
>>> reflect the "dream". JZD's "dream" was not to have the car known as a
>>> "lemon".
>>> We have so many hurdles to overcome with the public awareness and
>>> misinformation
>>> about cocaine, and that the cars are lemons, and unreliable...etc.
>>> The last thing that I want is someone to see one of our cars looking
>>> badly
>>> and
>>> and the person will forever say,...."yeah, I saw a DeLorean once, it
>>> was a
>>> peice of shit."
>>>
>>> So, I know some of you out there can't afford to to spend money on
>>> the car,
>>> but as long as you understand my point of view and at least make
>>> plans to
>>> repair
>>> and upgrade then you are on the right track.
>>>
>>> Here are the most common things that look bad and can be repaired or
>>> replaced easily.
>>>
>>> * Dash & Binnacle:
>>> Can be purchased from DMCH or recovered by any upholstery shop.
>>> Josh sells recovered dashes, binnacles, knee pads, etc.
>>>
>>> * Headliner:
>>> You can recover these yourself very cheap, any auto headliner place
>>> can do
>>> this.
>>>
>>> * Seat Covers: $599
>>> The new DMCH seat covers are one of the best investments you can
>>> make.
>>> I have them and I always get compliments on them even from people who
>>> have
>>> never seen a DeLorean, they can't believe how fluffy, soft and supple
>>> they
>>> are.
>>> They are worth every penny. Most auto seat cover places can install
>>> them
>>> for
>>> under $100.
>>>
>>> * Switches: $40 each, (less than $180 for all of them)
>>> You can replace your window and defroster switches real cheap, and
>>> the
>>> dummy
>>> switches can be replaced with working rocker switches that you can
>>> use for
>>> other uses.
>>> I have seen tons of cars with faded grey and even green moldy
>>> switches.
>>> Many previous owners have drilled holes into the dummy switches and
>>> installed
>>> goofy little toggle switches.
>>> Replace them and wire those switches to the new rockers.
>>> These are only about $40 each - not a big price for an exotic sports
>>> car.
>>> While you are replaceing them you can straighten out the metal part
>>> that
>>> they
>>> mount to so they will all be even and straight.
>>>
>>> *Carpet:
>>> You can pull the seats out easy and replace the whole lower carpet
>>> for
>>> about
>>> $300 or so.
>>>
>>> * Faded Black:
>>> You can tape off and paint all the little black parts on your car
>>> real
>>> easy.
>>> If they are faded gray or white then give them a hit of flat black.
>>> They will have a nice texture and look new again.
>>> (I used the Kent Ureolastic Black Bumper paint that Don Stegar
>>> sells.)
>>>
>>> *Fascias:
>>> Replace or repaint them. If they are badly warped, replace them and
>>> reinforce them to
>>> prevent it from happening again.
>>>
>>> * Lenses:
>>> If your taillights are faded and the color is missing, REPLACE them.
>>> If your headlights are yellow and foggy, replace them.
>>>
>>> * Rims:
>>> You can repaint your rims yourself, but it is best to have them
>>> powder
>>> coated.
>>> I have Don Stegars chromed rims and I get lots of complements,
>>> however if
>>> you want
>>> to keep everything original, you can buy new rims that look new
>>> cheaper
>>> than
>>> you would think.
>>> Much cheaper than custom rims would cost you for your low rider.
>>>
>>> I could go on and on but I think you get the point.
>>> I have said this before and I always get shit about it, but it's the
>>> way I
>>> feel.
>>> If you want to have a DeLorean it is your responsibility to keep it
>>> up and
>>> make it
>>> look good, if you can't afford to drop a few grand into the car to
>>> fix it
>>> up
>>> then sell it
>>> to someone who WILL appreciate it and fix it up and buy yourself a
>>> Chevette.
>>> Then you can drive a piece of shit and no one will care.
>>>
>>> If you dissagree then get out of the "community", our togetherness is
>>> fueled
>>> by our love for the cars, you don't neglect something you love.
>>>
>>> - Videobob
>>> VIN#5278
>>>
>>> PS: Robert, this was not an attack on you personally, just a general
>>> statement :>
>>>
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