[DMCForum] Re: Marc got a job.

["John Dore" <dmcjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey Mike,
A few reasons...
1. The Great Outdoors - I've been in 42 states in America, and drove 
to each one of these with the exception of Hawaii. There is nothing 
better than being on the open road in America and exploring some of 
the amazing landscapes you guys have over there, such as Monument 
Valley, Bryce Canyon, etc.
2. Cars - I don't care what anyone says, American cars are the best! 
I love the 60's American Muscle cars, and there are some pretty cool 
new cars over there too, Corvettes, Viper, DeLoreans, etc.
3. People - Americans are really cool people, don't listen to the 
media if they say everyone is pissed off at Americans, what do they 
know. Americans are always welcome and liked in Ireland anyway, I 
can't speak for other countries.
4. Standard of living - For the same job, American companies pay much 
more than Irish ones. Also, your wages go further in America than 
here in Dublin. Your houses are a lot more affordable, and cars are 
much cheaper to run, leaving more money over for fun stuff. 
5. America has much better weather than Ireland!
6. There is always something fun to do in America, I don't ever 
remember being bored in my time over there, I could go to a drive in 
movie, go to Six Flags, drive up to NH and rent a speedboat, go 
skydiving, etc. Its just great fun living over there!

Is that enough? I could probably think of a lot more reasons why I'd 
like to live there.

Thanks,
John


--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mike clemens <rmclemns@xxxx> wrote:
> Hey John,
> 
> Why do you want to come to the USA??  I'm not picking
> on you or anything like that, just curious.  Seems
> like 90% of the world is pissed off at us now and
> folks like you renew my faith in the imigration
> system.
> 
> Mike------1630
> 
> 
> --- John Dore <dmcjohn@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Hey Marvin,
> > 
> > As another guy who works at "computer crap" I know
> > where Marc is 
> > coming from. It doesn't mean he doesn't take pride
> > in his job or is a 
> > bad employee, just that its an easy explaination of
> > what he does for 
> > a living!!
> > 
> > Most people would stare back at you with a glassy
> > look in their eyes 
> > if you tried to describe any "computer" job in any
> > detail, because 
> > lets face it, either they won't have a clue what you
> > are talking 
> > about, or they couldn't give a shit, as it simply
> > sounds really 
> > boring when you try and explain it.
> > 
> > Also, from what I've read Marc say before, he has
> > tried knocking on 
> > company doors that haven't actually advertised
> > positions, as you 
> > suggested he could try.
> > 
> > In my case, I am not too happy working every day
> > with computers. Its 
> > fine for now, but I hope I have a more interesting
> > job in a few years 
> > time. The only reason I decided to get a degree in 
> > IT&Telecommunications was at the time I chose the
> > course (1998) the 
> > IT industry was booming in the USA, and I figured it
> > was the best 
> > line of work to get me a full time job in the USA,
> > and I could get 
> > sponsored by a company for a visa. Never actually
> > had an interest in 
> > pursuing it as a long term career. In fact, I would
> > have been much 
> > happier doing automotive engineering, or music, or
> > being a teacher. 
> > 
> > My plan is still to get to the USA thru IT, work at
> > it for another 10 
> > years after that, and then reassess if I really want
> > to be doing 
> > computer crap for the rest of my life, who knows
> > what I'll actually 
> > decide to do at that point, but the thing is, until
> > that point, I'll 
> > always do the best job I can, take pride in my work,
> > and refer to my 
> > job to anyone who asks, as "computer crap", hope
> > this clears it up a 
> > bit for you! At least this is my view of this line
> > of work.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > John
> > 
> > PS Well done Marc.
> > 
> > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Marvin"
> > <marv@xxxx> wrote:
> > > As an employer, if I saw or heard that a newly
> > hired employee, when 
> > asked what their new job was, answered "computer
> > crap", they'd be 
> > gone in a flash. Pride in what you do for a living,
> > enthusiasm for 
> > the company, excitment of being part of a new team,
> > and agressiveness 
> > to achieve positive results, all these are what is
> > needed by your new 
> > employer. If you start with a lousy attitude, you'll
> > be a lousy 
> > employee. You'll grumble even more, when fired, and
> > the next job pays 
> > 40% less than this one.
> > > 
> > > You apparently have so much talent and seem to
> > enjoy auto related 
> > conversations. Why not focus on that industry in the
> > computer area. I 
> > can guarantee you, that there are companies dying
> > for reliable self 
> > starting employees with enthusiasm, and computer
> > knowledge. Not all 
> > companies put out ads. You have to kick doors open
> > to sell yourself. 
> > It's very easy to be down when out of work for a
> > long period of time. 
> > > 
> > > It has been said by others smarter than me, that
> > when you find 
> > yourself in a lemon pile, make lemonade! 
> > > 
> > > Marv.
> > > # 17077
> > > marv@xxxx
> > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >   From: Marc Levy 
> > >   To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > >   Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:03 PM
> > >   Subject: [DMCForum] Marc got a job.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   computer crap. 
> > > 
> > >   --- Eric Itzel <eric@xxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > >   > 
> > >   > Good for you Mark! If I may ask, what are you
> > doing?
> > >   >  
> > >   > Eric
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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