Re: [DMCForum] Re: Marc got a job.

[mike clemens <rmclemns@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hey John,

Why do you want to come to the USA??  I'm not picking
on you or anything like that, just curious.  Seems
like 90% of the world is pissed off at us now and
folks like you renew my faith in the imigration
system.

Mike------1630


--- John Dore <dmcjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hey Marvin,
> 
> As another guy who works at "computer crap" I know
> where Marc is 
> coming from. It doesn't mean he doesn't take pride
> in his job or is a 
> bad employee, just that its an easy explaination of
> what he does for 
> a living!!
> 
> Most people would stare back at you with a glassy
> look in their eyes 
> if you tried to describe any "computer" job in any
> detail, because 
> lets face it, either they won't have a clue what you
> are talking 
> about, or they couldn't give a shit, as it simply
> sounds really 
> boring when you try and explain it.
> 
> Also, from what I've read Marc say before, he has
> tried knocking on 
> company doors that haven't actually advertised
> positions, as you 
> suggested he could try.
> 
> In my case, I am not too happy working every day
> with computers. Its 
> fine for now, but I hope I have a more interesting
> job in a few years 
> time. The only reason I decided to get a degree in 
> IT&Telecommunications was at the time I chose the
> course (1998) the 
> IT industry was booming in the USA, and I figured it
> was the best 
> line of work to get me a full time job in the USA,
> and I could get 
> sponsored by a company for a visa. Never actually
> had an interest in 
> pursuing it as a long term career. In fact, I would
> have been much 
> happier doing automotive engineering, or music, or
> being a teacher. 
> 
> My plan is still to get to the USA thru IT, work at
> it for another 10 
> years after that, and then reassess if I really want
> to be doing 
> computer crap for the rest of my life, who knows
> what I'll actually 
> decide to do at that point, but the thing is, until
> that point, I'll 
> always do the best job I can, take pride in my work,
> and refer to my 
> job to anyone who asks, as "computer crap", hope
> this clears it up a 
> bit for you! At least this is my view of this line
> of work.
> 
> Thanks,
> John
> 
> PS Well done Marc.
> 
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Marvin"
> <marv@xxxx> wrote:
> > As an employer, if I saw or heard that a newly
> hired employee, when 
> asked what their new job was, answered "computer
> crap", they'd be 
> gone in a flash. Pride in what you do for a living,
> enthusiasm for 
> the company, excitment of being part of a new team,
> and agressiveness 
> to achieve positive results, all these are what is
> needed by your new 
> employer. If you start with a lousy attitude, you'll
> be a lousy 
> employee. You'll grumble even more, when fired, and
> the next job pays 
> 40% less than this one.
> > 
> > You apparently have so much talent and seem to
> enjoy auto related 
> conversations. Why not focus on that industry in the
> computer area. I 
> can guarantee you, that there are companies dying
> for reliable self 
> starting employees with enthusiasm, and computer
> knowledge. Not all 
> companies put out ads. You have to kick doors open
> to sell yourself. 
> It's very easy to be down when out of work for a
> long period of time. 
> > 
> > It has been said by others smarter than me, that
> when you find 
> yourself in a lemon pile, make lemonade! 
> > 
> > Marv.
> > # 17077
> > marv@xxxx
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Marc Levy 
> >   To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >   Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:03 PM
> >   Subject: [DMCForum] Marc got a job.
> > 
> > 
> >   computer crap. 
> > 
> >   --- Eric Itzel <eric@xxxx> wrote:
> > 
> >   > 
> >   > Good for you Mark! If I may ask, what are you
> doing?
> >   >  
> >   > Eric
> > 
> > 
> > 
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