Re: [DMCForum] pre-production

["Avi Sarfaraz" <avi@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I always wanted to know what happened to the Sliding window prototypes with the side stripes etc etc
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dom Diaz 
  To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 12:27 PM
  Subject: RE: [DMCForum] pre-production


  That'a fine, In your 'book' as you say, you can believe whatever you want 
  the rest of us understand why 500 is called the first production car, it was 
  the first in the actual production line.


  >From: "fivetwofive" <cbl302@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  >Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >Subject: [DMCForum] pre-production
  >Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:57:34 -0000
  >
  >
  >
  >You are CORRECT when you say production as in going in a assembly
  >line,BUT vin 500 up until 648 were NOT sellable cars/they were made
  >to be used for factory/company purposes,the FIRST car that was sold
  >was Vin 649 NOTHING before that was sold period.Again what happened
  >to cars prior to 649? why do you not see them around? why are cars
  >after 648 plentiful? Again it boils down to the fact that cars before
  >649 were not ever meant to be sold,again not a series of  regular
  >production car(s)
  >  pre-prod cars are:A series of cars not meant to be sold to the
  >general public.Which again means pre-production,of unsaleable cars.
  >(500-648)Any car(or series of cars) at a beginning of production that
  >cannot be sold,and have to be destroyed in my book are a pre-
  >production car(s)Any car(s)that are saleable are production
  >cars.which means cars produced after 648.
  >
  >
  >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "dom1172" <dom_diaz@xxxx> wrote:
  > > VIN 500 is the first production car. Period. It's in a museum. It's
  > > displayed as the first Delorean in the production line. It's
  > > documented as the first production car. Prior to that was pre-
  > > production. You had an early VIN. You can even say it was a FACTORY
  > > car but NOT, I repeat NOT pre-production, no matter how hard to
  >want
  > > to believe it or make it true, it isn't. Period.
  > >
  > > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "fivetwofive" <cbl302@xxxx> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > No,The only claim I will give,is that I kept them "around" and in
  > > > good shape,(ie:from being in a field somewhere turning into rust)
  > > and
  > > > keeping/from becoming parts cars/and keeping a "few" more
  > > > Deloreans  "around" for Future generations to enjoy.
  > > > Not non-running "stored" for Future USE,Non-running is a term
  >used
  > > > for Junkers that have been abandoned outside for the elements to
  > > > DESTROY!!! In a sense the cars were in a state of suspended
  > > > anamation!!Also said as new, NOT new,as the majority of the cars
  > > were
  > > > stored indoors and covered since the 80's and unused,a BIG
  > > > difference,from a Delorean that was stored
  > > outside,uncovered,unused,I
  > > > once left a 9,000 mile Chevy Citation outside,(totaled parts car)
  >to
  > > > the elements,in ten years,of sitting parked outside,it went from
  >a
  > > > decent parts car,to scrap!! Just from the elements !!And it was
  > > > only "parked" It makes a BIG Difference how the car is stored.
  > > > I "think" I know something about he "history" of Deloreans after
  > > more
  > > > than 22years of Delorean Knowledge,and I STAND my ground on the
  >Pre
  > > > Vins 00648,ALL were NEVER intended FOR PUBLIC use,HENSE pre-
  > > > production,production cars are cars who's intended use were TO BE
  > > > SOLD and USED by the General PUBLIC,IF they
  > > were "normal" "production
  > > > cars" where are they all???????? There are ONLY Dozen or so of
  >cars
  > > > BEFORE vins 648, WHY?  Because they were destroyed (or
  >dismanteled)
  > > > used for parts ect ect,as the Factory NEVER classified THEM as
  > > > PRODUCTION cars.The Few that are around are ONLY around
  > > because,they
  > > > were STILL in use BY the FACTORY,as FACTORY CARS,(ie:
  > > > expermental,test vehicles,used by the big wigs,training Vehicles
  > > ect
  > > > ect)THEN, WHEN the Factory shut DOWN,The few that HAD NOT BEEN
  > > > Destroyed, became assets for Liquidation,to pay creditors,BUT had
  > > the
  > > > factory been in production,NO PRE Vin 648 cars would be around
  > > > today,as AGAIN,the factory classified them as,NON SELLABLE/NOT a
  > > > NORMAL production CAR.Maybe that clears things up about the Pre
  >Vin
  > > > 648 cars.??? Again if they were "normal" production cars,then
  > > PLEASE
  > > > account for the mysterious Disappeanence,of almost all the cars
  > > > BEFORE "648" WHERE ARE THEY? I can tell you-- Destroyed by the
  > > > factory,as NON-sellable/ not classified as a Normal Production
  >car.
  > > > Hense PRE_PRODUCTION!!
  > > >
  > > > Claude
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx> wrote:
  > > > > Most of what you said is just a repeat of your last
  > > > > message, so I have no need to respond to it again.
  > > > >
  > > > > In lot of parts, there was ONE new part.  ONE.
  > > > > Everything else was obviously used.  You mislead every
  > > > > person who read your EBay auction.  All of your "Cars"
  > > > > we non-running.  What was there was not "installed",
  > > > > but more just thrown on there to make the car look
  > > > > decent.  I will give you this, the frames were clean
  > > > > and had been stored inside all these years....  Still
  > > > > makes me wonder why the heck you took ALL of those
  > > > > cars apart!
  > > > >
  > > > > it has been established, 570 is NOT pre-production.
  > > > > Early, yes..  But that adds no value to it at all.
  > > > > Maybe if it ran it would be worth a bit more?  I am
  > > > > sure Rob will need to invest a lot more time and parts
  > > > > in to those cars than he expected for him to put his
  > > > > stamp of approval on it...  When those cars find a new
  > > > > happy owner, will you claim it is your skill that made
  > > > > those cars what they are (as you do with the other
  > > > > one)??  or at least give Rob credit for taking a pile
  > > > > of parts and making it in to a real car?
  > > > >
  > > > >
  > > > >
  > > > > --- fivetwofive <cbl302@xxxx> wrote:
  > > > > <SNIP>
  > > > > > Dissapointed ??? AT LEAST 60% of the parts were as
  > > > > > NEW or LIKE
  > > > > > new,ALL had PERFECT dashes
  > > > > > one car had 2,000 miles,one had 9,000 miles,one had
  > > > > > 22,000 and one
  > > > > > had 32,000,and ALL WERE STORED INDOORS SINCE the
  > > > > > 1980's,IT was a
  > > > > > DELOREAN LOVERS DREAM FIND!! AND THE cream on the
  > > > > > cake was he got a
  > > > > > Pre-Prod. Car to BOOT!!!!! (vin# 570)(The first cars
  > > > > > sold to the
  > > > > > general public were vins in the  600 range)AFTER THE
  > > > > > FACTORY SHUT
  > > > > > DOWN ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE,and everything that had
  > > > > > market value was
  > > > > > sold,including any cars under the 600 VIN
  > > > > > numbers,otherwise you would
  > > > > > NOT SEE any cars under the sub 600 vins around
  > > > > > today!! A SUPER SUPER
  > > > > > SUPER deal,that nobody could resist.THIS IS MY LAST
  > > > > > COMMENT ON THIS
  > > > > > UNLESS YOU INSIST ON DRAGGING THIS FURTHER IN THE
  > > > > > MUD.THEN you will
  > > > > > leave me no choice but to reply.
  > > > > <SNIP>
  > > > >
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