The pumps I sell come from the OE supplier to Volvo, Like the Renault pumps come from Renault themselves. Renault didn't make the engines either, so what makes the Renault pump the correct one and the Volvo pump the incorrect one. Don't say shaft because you can order that any way you want it when you make pumps. Don't say backs, because it's an attachment and 99% of the time the back is good. As you know on the B28 engine, which John used has a combination of suppliers and since he didn't cast his on pumps and the car is made up up of a hodge podge of many suppliers, what makes Renault pumps the correct ones and the Volvo pumps the incorrect ones. They both fit, they will both last 20 years and they both pump coolant. Volvo is made in Italy and Renault is made where. John -----Original Message----- From: Martin Gutkowski [mailto:webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:36 AM To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DMCForum] Water pumps John Perhaps I shouldn't have used the term "much better" - apologies for that. I am not saying your pumps are poor quality. You may think they are the same but they are not - and definitely not made on the same production line. We had them side by side earlier today. The Renault pumps are the correct pump for the DeLorean engine in every way. I am _not_ trying to compete - we don't sell to the US market. Our only choice is a generic (ie not OEM) Volvo pump (without back plate), or a genuine Renault pump, or import from the US. The Ren pump ends up slightly more expensive but comes with a fitted brand new back plate.and the correct length shaft making fitting the pulley a doddle. Which one would you use, given the choice? The same choice you made when deciding to sell Volvo thermostats probably. Now, back to the plot - you get your pulleys from Rob, don't you? Martin John Hervey wrote: >Martin, >Your message makes it sound like the generic pumps I sell are inferior. They >are a perfect fit in every way. I have sold over 100 of them with no >failure. If you want the back plate I have it. Just because yours is >purchased from the Renault dealer makes it no better than the company in >Italy that more than likely makes it for them also. Again, If the 1" longer >shaft bothers you it can be cut off. But to down play my pump as generic and >the Renault is much better is not true. Rob and I use the same pump >manufacture. >John > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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