Martin As I said earlier, The pumps I sell are OE Volvo made in Italy and made for the B??F engine. As far as the center shaft, Yes that was done for Volvo and the 1" doesn't hurt anything it actually helps in some cases. I can get them with the smaller shaft, but I like the longer one. Again it can also be cut off if necessary. Quality, High with no problems and a perfect fit and I can keep the price low. As you know, if production of a certain type of engine isn't high enough, all car manufactures will use another brand of product so they don't have to recast for one item. Volvo, Peugeot, Delorean and who else uses the same pump I sell. You have good access to Renault since your over there, but what would it cost over here. Yes, Rob and I work together on pulley's. Why would I want to turn my own when he has already done it. That's working together which I feel would benefit the Delorean community, but as we know some Delorean part sellers won't and don't. They want to sail there own boat and try to get rid of all vendors. Then you have no price to compare to and no one else to beat up on. John -----Original Message----- From: Martin Gutkowski [mailto:webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:36 AM To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DMCForum] Water pumps John Perhaps I shouldn't have used the term "much better" - apologies for that. I am not saying your pumps are poor quality. You may think they are the same but they are not - and definitely not made on the same production line. We had them side by side earlier today. The Renault pumps are the correct pump for the DeLorean engine in every way. I am _not_ trying to compete - we don't sell to the US market. Our only choice is a generic (ie not OEM) Volvo pump (without back plate), or a genuine Renault pump, or import from the US. The Ren pump ends up slightly more expensive but comes with a fitted brand new back plate.and the correct length shaft making fitting the pulley a doddle. Which one would you use, given the choice? The same choice you made when deciding to sell Volvo thermostats probably. Now, back to the plot - you get your pulleys from Rob, don't you? Martin John Hervey wrote: >Martin, >Your message makes it sound like the generic pumps I sell are inferior. They >are a perfect fit in every way. I have sold over 100 of them with no >failure. If you want the back plate I have it. Just because yours is >purchased from the Renault dealer makes it no better than the company in >Italy that more than likely makes it for them also. Again, If the 1" longer >shaft bothers you it can be cut off. But to down play my pump as generic and >the Renault is much better is not true. Rob and I use the same pump >manufacture. >John > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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