GM is evil. They would have been evil even if the EV-1 had never been invented. Ford: Now there's a truly noble corporation.... Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "timnagin" <timnagin@...> wrote: > > And right on cue, the topic is changed when pressed. Make up your mind, > Bob. I thought you were discussing how evil GM is and why we all can't get > electric cars that most people do not want. > > > > http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am14 > > > > Show us where we have any right to force them to build what we want, and > give me proof. You never seem to do that when asked. > > > > Greg > > > > > > _____ > > From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of Bob Brandys > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:03 PM > To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [DMCForum] > > > > Ryan, > > You said "We have absolutely zero right to force someone to build, or > not crush, > electric cars, not even if it's "in (our) best interests." > Unfortunately, this statement is not correct. You should check into > the history of corporate charters. > > Prior to the civil war all corporation charters were issued for the > purposes of corporation serving the public good. The trade of made by > government in issuing corporate charters was that the corporation would > have limited liability because they were serving the public good. > That was the intent of corporation from day 1 and still is in most > countries outside of the US. > > What this also meant was that if the corporation was NOT acting in the > public interest the corporate charter could be revoked. In fact, this > happened a number of times to stop corporate greed prior to the civil > war. > > So what's with the civil war? Why is this a turning point? Well, you > need to look at the history of the 14th amendment. > > This amendment was sold to the public as giving slaves the right to > vote. On the other hand, what this amendment really did was to > classify corporations as individuals and remove the right of states to > revoke corporate charters when corporations do not act in the public's > interests. > > If you look at an accurate history of the civil war, you will see that > it was started over an economic issue of tariffs on southern cotton. > The whole slavery thing only came on later in the war as the publics > interest in the north was waning after a number of losses to the south, > Lincoln and his advisors came up with the slavery abolition idea, to > continue to sell the war to the north. > > However, it was a back door deal to northern corporations to devise a > law that would appear to "Free the slaves" but actually "freed the > corporations" to conduct greed wars on the public. > > In fact, over the past 100+ years, the 14th amendment has been used to > protect corporation over 996 times, while it only was use 4 times to > deal with voting rights for slaves. > > See the video documentaries "the corporation" and "america-freedom > to fascism." > > History: if we don't learn from it, we are destine to repeat it. > > Bob > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:DMCForum-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:DMCForum-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/