As Martin said, Marc can certainly rub people the wrong way, BUT the only way it can bother you is if you let it. For what it's worth, Marc has said and done things that have rubbed me the wrong way, but I'm sure I have said and done things to him and others that have rubbed them the wrong way. Regardless, you either choose to be friendly with that person or you choose not to. If you choose to remain friendly, as I have with Marc, you learn that that is how that person is; it is what defines his personality and character. Do I agree with Marc often? Honestly, not most of the time, but he is super intelligent and brutally honest, and that is what I like about him. If you choose not to be friendly with that person, as I have in the past with others, then you distance yourself from that person...end of story. Why take things so personally? If something was said and done to you that you felt was wrong, why not take it up with that person, rather than make it public? Who is the better person for it? Trying to diffuse a situation privately is the diplomatic way - who can ever say anything bad about you by taking that road? If that person make a public stink; so be it. At that point, would you really care what that person says or thinks. Wouldn't it be obvious to everyone that there is something definitely wrong with that person - enough so that others wouldn't want anything to do with him/her? A person that defames another persons character is an obvious sign of insecurity on their part. I've always been amazed at how much controversy there is on lists like these. I almost never post to groups like this because to me, it is a form of entertainment. Groups like this revolve around my hobby for the DeLorean. But seriously...discussions that revolve around "what he said, what she said" are nothing short of futile. Who gets in the last word? Apparently, in this case the moderating team. Again, we all have the option of discounting what another person said. Aren't we all smart enough to realize this? I'll be honest, I laugh at each posting that doesn't pertain to the DeLorean because it's so unbelievable that some people let it bother them. If someone says something directly/indirectly to you on the forum and you feel it's wrong, antagonistic, etc., why would you reply publicly? It goes back to what I said in the above paragraph. Why not post back privately? As a reader of the Forum, this is what I would see (and I'm sure 99% of us would) if there was a post attacking another member: OK, here's someone trying to start some "shit" with another member. WOW, that person has said things that border on wrong/nasty. As a few days pass, nothing, no response from the "attacked." Well, apparently, the "attackor" must have been full of his own "shit." Kudos the the other person for not getting involved. This is no different than turning away from a pending fist fight. Some people like to get into fisticuffs, but those that take the high road are smarter than the hot-head. This isn't to say that I would avoid a fight regardless of what has happened, but in this case (Marc v. DMC Forum)...who give a flying shit? Respond privately, or ask publicly to go private. Who has the time in their lives to let this bother them? I am too busy working and stressed to let this stuff bother me. Am I the only one that thinks and feels this way? As it has been said in the past, there is a delete key, or a scroll option. Use to to bypass what you want to read and what you don't want to read. If you find an attack against yourself, don't get into a public debate, handle it privately. There is no need to "moderate" this list and there is no need for "rules" and for that matter, no need to "ban" any member. Should we act like children that need supervision or should we handle ourselves like adults and deal with our problems maturely? Apparently, the moderating team and Marc need to handle this together and not involve the members. - Joshua Schwartz ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/HliolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DMCForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DMCForum-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/