[DMCForum] Re: Discrimination: Actually DeLorean related.

["John Dore" <dmcjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi John,

I think Bob actually said there were 7 cars and 12 people....
Take a look again.

John, how do you rate your lower ball joints Vs DMC Houstons 
remanufactured ones? Are the DMC Houston ones an exact replica of the 
original ones, or are they improved?

Thanks,
John

--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "John Hervey" <john@xxxx> wrote:
> Bob, I won't pleasure you in a answer over the forum, but I will 
say this.
> It would kill you to tell the truth.
> John Hervey
> P.S. Did see a post on the DML that you said there were 12 cars at 
the
> gathering. There were 7.
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Videobob Moseley [mailto:videobob@xxxx]
>   Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:09 PM
>   To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Subject: RE: [DMCForum] Discrimination: Actually DeLorean related.
> 
> 
>   Please explain your question to me again, because I am not sure I
>   understand.
>   Are you saying that there are vendors who will refuse service to 
you based
>   on their
>   religious or personal beliefs?
> 
>   I know John Hervey has told me that he doesn't want to sell me 
parts
> because
>   of
>   a dissagreement we had, whcih is stupid because I spent many 
thousands of
>   dollars
>   with the man.
>   I paid him over $400 to do a "tune up" on my car, when I picked 
it up I
> was
>   missing
>   my set of unused black stripes that was in the car, he told me 
that he
>   borrowed them
>   to "show them to a friend", about a month after I released the 
sale of my
>   stripes
>   he offered hiis versions (ripped off from me) at a cheaper rate.
>   I told him that was not a nice thing to do to a friend.
>   He replied, "It's only business Bob".
>   So I announced that any price that John sold his stripes for, I 
would beat
>   it.
>   John got upset with me and I replied: "It's only business John".
>   He got miffed and told me not to buy from him any more.
>   His loss.
>   I was a loyal customer, and a good friend.
>   We shared the cost of a hotel room at Pigeon Forge, and shared 
booths, I
>   helped him
>   load his stuff and watched his table and even helped him sell 
when ever I
>   could.
>   He has been to my house and we have had dinner together many 
times.
>   His actions were uncalled for and for no reason other than greed.
>   It's just dumb, because I spent a lot of money with him and 
brought him
>   customers
>   and now he has ruined this relationship over nothing, because as 
far as I
>   know he hasn't
>   sold any of his srtipes to anyone.
>   However I have sold quite a few.
>   I have offered to forgive him and forget about it.
>   I have not heard back from him about it.
>   Shame or pride, it is a fault.
> 
>   I have no problem selling to anyone.
>   Even if they don't like me, not so much for the money, but 
maybe....just
>   maybe
>   if I provide them with good service and a good product they might 
see
>   another side
>   of me and change their minds.
>   Hey, I'm a nice enough guy and I think my prices are resonable in
>   consideration
>   of retail practices.
>   Sure I mark things up for a profit but that's how it works in all
> business.
> 
>   So I will sell to anyone who needs help, and I will always answer 
the
> phone
>   and be a friend to anyone who asks.
>   I don't hold grudges like some people do.
> 
>   Does this address the issue you were asking?
> 
>   I think the most documented cases of DeLorean Parts 
Discrimination would
> be
>   with D1.
>   I have heard about this from others too.
>   Rob Grady and Don Stegar have both been accused of this in the 
past.
>   Rob told me that "unless I buy all of my parts from him, he would 
not sell
>   me parts
>   and peices individually" although I have bought some of his 
accesories off
>   his website.
>   This costed him many thousands of dollars as I relied on DMCH and 
they
> came
>   through big time.
>   Stephen did a great job of stealing my business away from others.
>   Stephen has taken the time to call me and address problems I am 
having and
>   offer solutions.
>   No other vendor has ever done that....shit, half the time you 
can't get
>   another vendor
>   on the phone!
> 
>   So I hope this answers some questions for you.
>   - VB
> 
> 
> 
>   >From: "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxx>
>   >Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   >To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   >Subject: [DMCForum] Discrimination: Actually DeLorean related.
>   >Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 01:42:32 -0000
>   >
>   >
>   >Overall, both Bobs here on the list brought up good, valid 
points.
>   >Personally, I think the
>   >headline that says "Christians" were being jailed is a cheap 
shot. That
>   >insinuates that these
>   >people were simply arrested because they are to be *Christians*, 
versus
> the
>   >truth, that
>   >these are people who were arrested for breaking the law, who 
happened to
>   >also be
>   >*Christians*.
>   >
>   >That's like saying all my speeding tickets were forms of 
persecution,
>   >because I was driving
>   >a DeLorean, versus the real fact that I was breaking the law by 
exceeding
>   >the speed limit,
>   >and happed to use a DeLorean when I did it. And this is about as 
far into
>   >this as I'll go,
>   >based upon the agreements that have been set in place not do 
discuss
>   >religion or politics.
>   >
>   >Now, if you really do want to talk about about some DeLorean 
related
>   >problems with
>   >discrimination, we can certainly do that. And let's begin with a 
question
> I
>   >posted to the
>   >DML last week. I asked if any of the vendors were going to 
promise to us
>   >consumers that
>   >they would not refuse to sell anything to us, based upon any 
personal, or
>   >political
>   >objections. And so far, not a single vendor has responded.
>   >
>   >Now when I posted this, it was directed at ALL people and 
companies who
>   >sell items
>   >somehow related to the DeLorean. And I included John Hervy, and 
you Video
>   >Bob in on the
>   >list of people who sell such items, but have not heard anything 
back.
>   >
>   >-Robert
>   >
>   >
>   >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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