RE: [DMCForum] Discrimination: Actually DeLorean related.

["Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Please explain your question to me again, because I am not sure I 
understand.
Are you saying that there are vendors who will refuse service to you based 
on their
religious or personal beliefs?

I know John Hervey has told me that he doesn't want to sell me parts because 
of
a dissagreement we had, whcih is stupid because I spent many thousands of 
dollars
with the man.
I paid him over $400 to do a "tune up" on my car, when I picked it up I was 
missing
my set of unused black stripes that was in the car, he told me that he 
borrowed them
to "show them to a friend", about a month after I released the sale of my 
stripes
he offered hiis versions (ripped off from me) at a cheaper rate.
I told him that was not a nice thing to do to a friend.
He replied, "It's only business Bob".
So I announced that any price that John sold his stripes for, I would beat 
it.
John got upset with me and I replied: "It's only business John".
He got miffed and told me not to buy from him any more.
His loss.
I was a loyal customer, and a good friend.
We shared the cost of a hotel room at Pigeon Forge, and shared booths, I 
helped him
load his stuff and watched his table and even helped him sell when ever I 
could.
He has been to my house and we have had dinner together many times.
His actions were uncalled for and for no reason other than greed.
It's just dumb, because I spent a lot of money with him and brought him 
customers
and now he has ruined this relationship over nothing, because as far as I 
know he hasn't
sold any of his srtipes to anyone.
However I have sold quite a few.
I have offered to forgive him and forget about it.
I have not heard back from him about it.
Shame or pride, it is a fault.

I have no problem selling to anyone.
Even if they don't like me, not so much for the money, but maybe....just 
maybe
if I provide them with good service and a good product they might see 
another side
of me and change their minds.
Hey, I'm a nice enough guy and I think my prices are resonable in 
consideration
of retail practices.
Sure I mark things up for a profit but that's how it works in all business.

So I will sell to anyone who needs help, and I will always answer the phone
and be a friend to anyone who asks.
I don't hold grudges like some people do.

Does this address the issue you were asking?

I think the most documented cases of DeLorean Parts Discrimination would be 
with D1.
I have heard about this from others too.
Rob Grady and Don Stegar have both been accused of this in the past.
Rob told me that "unless I buy all of my parts from him, he would not sell 
me parts
and peices individually" although I have bought some of his accesories off 
his website.
This costed him many thousands of dollars as I relied on DMCH and they came 
through big time.
Stephen did a great job of stealing my business away from others.
Stephen has taken the time to call me and address problems I am having and 
offer solutions.
No other vendor has ever done that....shit, half the time you can't get 
another vendor
on the phone!

So I hope this answers some questions for you.
- VB



>From: "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [DMCForum] Discrimination: Actually DeLorean related.
>Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 01:42:32 -0000
>
>
>Overall, both Bobs here on the list brought up good, valid points. 
>Personally, I think the
>headline that says "Christians" were being jailed is a cheap shot. That 
>insinuates that these
>people were simply arrested because they are to be *Christians*, versus the 
>truth, that
>these are people who were arrested for breaking the law, who happened to 
>also be
>*Christians*.
>
>That's like saying all my speeding tickets were forms of persecution, 
>because I was driving
>a DeLorean, versus the real fact that I was breaking the law by exceeding 
>the speed limit,
>and happed to use a DeLorean when I did it. And this is about as far into 
>this as I'll go,
>based upon the agreements that have been set in place not do discuss 
>religion or politics.
>
>Now, if you really do want to talk about about some DeLorean related 
>problems with
>discrimination, we can certainly do that. And let's begin with a question I 
>posted to the
>DML last week. I asked if any of the vendors were going to promise to us 
>consumers that
>they would not refuse to sell anything to us, based upon any personal, or 
>political
>objections. And so far, not a single vendor has responded.
>
>Now when I posted this, it was directed at ALL people and companies who 
>sell items
>somehow related to the DeLorean. And I included John Hervy, and you Video 
>Bob in on the
>list of people who sell such items, but have not heard anything back.
>
>-Robert
>
>
>

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