[DMCForum] Re: Smoking..

["Flavia" <frvianna@xxxxxxxxx>]

I worked at Disney and I had many smokers come up to me ask where the 
designated smoking areas were, so we'd hand them one of those park 
maps. It's true there aren't that many areas and the managers are 
VERY strict about it, sorry Lauren, if they  weren't very nice when 
they asked you not to smoke there, but the smoking in designated 
areas is a big thing at the parks.
I think I'll never agree with Robert from Vegas. If I stay around 
smoke for a while, I get a headache, I can't see too well, I sneeze, 
caught... I react very poorly to smoke and I don't know many smokers. 
After the NYC laws (NY state as someone pointed out) I believe that a 
lot of non-smokers started going out more. I am probably the wrost 
example for that, but when I am with smokers, I don't go outside with 
them, if I do, I stay far from the smoke. The ventilation at bars 
clubs, etc is nothing like being outside, therefore I will always 
applaud the State of NY for what they've done for people like me that 
want to be healthy. Doesn't Florida have some law like that too?
What I do admire are people who quit and never touched a cigarette 
again. I made it easier, never started :)
The good thing about Deloreans is that the windows are so small that 
I guess discourages smoking in the car. Does that really happen or is 
it just me who hates smoke that sees it that way?

Flavia
--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jack Stiefel <jackstiefel@xxxx> 
wrote:
> There is a good point Vegas made that he forgot when he was making 
his
> other points lol.  Restaurants and bars and most all public places 
are
> themselves workers.  If I am a hot blonde with a great rack and can
> make thousands stripping, why should I have to be surrounded by
> unhealthy smoke?  If I work at that bar or nightclub or even
> restaurant, is it fair for me to submit myself to the 2nd shower of
> the day to cleanse myself from that nasty smell (or that supposed
> health risk -- come on cigs are good for everyone right??).
> 
> Lauren has a point about other smells, and to some extent it 
happens. 
> I am sure people have been denied service or entrance to public 
places
> due to a bad smell?  I have seen it at airports and restaurants
> myself.  These things however can not be attributed to any health
> concern.
> 
> The NY State law IMHO was great.  Businesses wined about loss of
> business so NYS said fine in the next 3-6 months if you lose any of
> your normal business submit it to us and we will subsidize it.  To 
my
> knowledge none were submitted.  In fact places most concerned were 
the
> bars and clubs.  Their business went up as non-smokers felt
> comfortable and safe going in.
> 
> I can't make any comparisons to Sin City and NYC in tourism.  Sin 
City
> has made a huge transformation over the last 10 years and has a huge
> draw.
> 
> 2004 -- 
http://techpolicy.typepad.com/iamadamsmith/2004/09/top_tourist_des.htm
l
> 2001 -- 
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/TRAVEL/NEWS/12/10/nyc.tourism.poll/
> 
> Las Vegas is even under San Francisco.  Oh well maybe next year 
(total
> sarcasm, I LOVE Vegas!!)
> 
> Oh well I better go to bed I have ranted enough for tonight :)
>   
> Jack
> 
> On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:13:45 -0700, Lauren <LPLand@xxxx> wrote:
> > Flavia wrote:
> > 
> > >  One of the reasons why I love to go out in NYC, no smoking in
> > > bars or clubs, I can have fun, breathe
> > 
> > When I smoked, smokers were always the target of "I can't stand 
> > the smell"  issues.  Personally, I have  a problem with people 
who 
> > feel the need to overdose on perfumes, whether in clubs or 
> > restaurants or airplanes.   The cacophony of scents really 
bothers 
> > me yet no one has ever started an anti-perfume campaign against 
> > the obnoxiously overscented.  
> > 
> > My point is that with the asshole-to-elbow population exploding 
> > everywhere, no one can do anything that won't bother someone.  
> > Where do we draw the line?  Perfumes?  Dirty diapers?  Excessive 
> > noise?  Ugly shoes? What about people with MCS - do they want to 
> > ban polyester in public?   If we legislate away all the 
irritables, we'll 
> > all have to leave our houses in bubblewrap.  But what right do we 
> > have to legislate some of the irritables and not others?
> > 
> > ......................LP
> > 
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