[DMCForum] Re: HDs OFF-TOPIC

["Flavia" <frvianna@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Eric,

Unfortunately I don't know much about how a delorean works. I know 
computers and Back to the Future :)
The good thing is that I was welcomed here and at delorean events. 
And I'm trying to learn about the cars, one day I'l have mine :)

Flavia-NJ

--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Eric Itzel <eric@xxxx> wrote:
> (Sorry for the off topic stuff, but for once I can help out!)
> Hey Martin,
>  
> Perhaps I can help out- from the description you gave of your hard
> drives, you have a Ultra2-SCSI (I call it SCSI-2) drive- 1 connector
> running both power and data. Great for hot-swap backplanes. SCSI-3
> (UltraWide, LVD, blah blah blah..) has seperate connectors for 
power and
> data, where SCSI-1 looked like a fat IDE connector. For a reference,
> look up an IBM Ultrastar model # DDYS-T18350 and check out it's 
plugs-
> that should be what your Adaptec wants to plug into. Adaptors do 
exist
> for those SCSI-2 plugs (UltraWide3/LVD with separate power and data
> plugs TO that single SCSI-2 connector on the HD)- several of my
> customers have such setups in their older servers. 
>  
> In regards to other hard drive connectors, there is also Serial ATA.
> That plug looks kind've like a small USB plug except everything is
> plastic. All other types of connectors/interfaces would be 
considered a
> history lesson. 
>  
> Flavia- I would guess 2 possiblities to explain the Gateway's lack 
of
> imagination when it comes to large hard drives- 1) the computer 
can't do
> the math to see 80 gigs or 2) the hard drive controller is too fast
> (ATA-66, ATA 100, etc..) for the gateway. I would be on reason #1 
first.
> Also, keep your eye on that 12gig Quantum drive- I see a lot of 
those
> drives of that era crap out in an instant due to a chip failure on 
the
> controller (it's pretty cool- you can see a little singed trail on 
one
> of the chips going from the center of the chip to the outside!). I 
try
> to replace those drives as a precaution because I've seen a lot of 
them
> go the exact same way.
>  
> <sigh> This is what happens when you lend your DeLorean's battery 
to a
> friend in need.. I need to get out and drive!
>  
> Hope this helps you two,
>  
> Eric Itzel
> vin 4433
> eric@xxxx <mailto:eric@xxxx> 
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: Flavia <mailto:frvianna@xxxx>  
> To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 2:45 PM
> Subject: [DMCForum] HDs (was: Farrar and Martin are MIA...)
> 
> 
> Hi Martin_
> 
> I don't know if that will help you, but I have a Jaz drive that is 
> SCSI and it's awesome, I don't think it's slower than a USB 1.0. 
> Despite of the fact that I am a huge fan of USB (I've had it since 
> like '99, when it wasn't that famous yet), I can't find any SCSI 
port 
> to hook up to my motherboard. I have a new computer it's 2.4G 
500mhz 
> clock therefore I have nothing but IDE, PCI and USB, I don't think 
I 
> have a parellel port to be honest. 
> Bottomline is that I was fixing my roommate's computer and she has 
a 
> 5yo Gateway. Her Quantum HD worked in my computer, it's a 12Gb, but 
> she has a lot of music and she bought a new western digital 80mb, 
> guess what, it fits but doesn't work in her computer, her BIOS 
> doesn't detect it, but it does in my Dell. Then I was reading the 
> HD's manual and it said something about that type of HD not working 
> in older computers. i'll read the manual again and see exactly why. 
> Probably only ebay will have a connector for your HD, since you 
said 
> it's not an IDE. Like I said, it's VERY hard to find any SCSI 
> adaptor. I never noticed if SCSI 2 is longer than IDE, I can check 
> that too and let you know, the hint to tell IDE and SCSI apart, at 
> least the way I do it is to look at the pins' thickness. The SCSI 
is 
> thin, kinda like that needle inside cable TV cables (maybe even 
> thinner), IDE is thicker.
> Actually ebay is awesome to shop for HDs, it breaks down by size 
and 
> other details i.e. connector type. But if you are having problems, 
> you are better off with a new computer, not brand new, but newer. 
My 
> roommate spent like $50 on a new HD that is not working in her 
> computer, and $50 is about how much her computer's worth at this 
> point. I really don't know of any other HD connections other than 
> USB, IDE and SCSI, anyone???
> 
> Flavia
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Martin Gutkowski - DMUK Ltd 
> <martin@xxxx> wrote:
> > Still here, the delete key is getting a lot of use on the 'forum 
> though. 
> > I'm v busy right now and my main hard disk is playing silly 
buggers 
> and 
> > needs cajoling into spinning up. Took 2 hours of faffing tonight 
to 
> get 
> > it to work.
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me what type of HDD I have? I "borrowed" an 
Adaptec 
> > AHA2940 PCI SCSI card from work together with an ancient double-
> height 
> > 3.5" 9.1Gb Quantum drive plus a Seagate Cheetah 3.5Gb. These two 
> drives 
> > were old when I knobbled them, and that was in '99, They've 
worked 
> > flalessly running my Win98 PC ever since, but the Seagate's 
getting 
> > temperamental. I  know I should be able to find a cheap 
replacement 
> with 
> > oodles more capacity but I haven't  a clue what they are - all I 
> know is 
> > I used to call it "Ultra wide SCSI" - it has a smaller D-type 
> connector 
> > instead of the ones that look like IDE but are longer (SCSI 2 ?). 
> The 
> > drive in question doesn't even have teh D-type connector on it, 
but 
> as 
> > longer wierd connector which includes the power rails! It then 
has 
> a 
> > little daughterboard that goes on this giving me my bus connector 
> and 
> > standard 4-pin power. I haven't worked with PC's for 5 years now 
> and am 
> > well out of touch!
> > 
> > Martin
> > 
> > Andrei Cular wrote:
> > 
> > > Last night I was wondering why we haven;t heard from them in 
> sometime as
> > > well.  I kind of miss Farrars quotes and intresting view 
points, 
> and
> > > Prof Martin reminding people of basic physics.  Cause we all 
know 
> now HP
> > > is caluclated based on time, and that a high HP engine will 
take 
> out a
> > > high torque engine any and every day ;)
> > >
> > > Andrei
> 
> 
> 
> 
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