[DMCForum] Re: A public apology to Marc Levy
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[DMCForum] Re: A public apology to Marc Levy
- From: "Flavia" <frvianna@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 15:37:52 -0000
After reading this, I have to say that there are more things that we
agree on. The map that Marc posted, I saw more as a joke than a
racist thing.
And Christimas to me is a time to eat as much as I eat on
Thanksgiving and exchange presents, yes, it's purely commercial and I
like it because it's a holiday :) Nothing wrong with most of the
songs, Rudolph is not a religious reindeer!
But when I used to live in Oklahoma, most of my friends were jewish
and one of them worked at the mall. Of course I spent the evening of
Dec 24 with them because everyone else was praying while we played
video games and ate :) But she was upset because when the store she
worked at was about to close, her manager went to the mic and said: "
all customers, the mall will close in 30 min, bla, bla, bla and merry
christmas" Then, Jessica, my friend, told her she should be
politically correct and say "happy holidays", according to her, the
manager didn't take that too well. BTW, Jessica, is originally from
Long Island, NY. What I mean by that, is that around the Northeast,
things aren't so bad for non-christians, the south is
more "dominated" by religion.
Homo-familial, LOL well, as you or someone else mentioned before, the
problem is that if a brother and sister have a child, that child have
great chances of having birth defects, so there is a scientific
explantion to incest. As for gays, they will never be able to have a
child of their own, their only solution is adopting, and I believe
that many children out there would like to be adopted. I don't see
anything wrong with that. It's weird, but they don't harm anyone.
Flavia
--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "cruznmd" <racuti1@xxxx> wrote:
>
> Once again I have apparently misquoted you so I apologize to people
here and
> now, and 25 years from now.
>
> I am obviously mis-understanding what you are trying to convey and
I
> apologize.
>
> I'm really sorry that you feel that that map accurately represents
our nation. I
> don't think you and Flavia are wrong for being agnostic. I truly
understand that
> you are sick of people preaching to you. I don't like it when JW's
come
> banging on my door either. I just feel that you swing too far the
other way, by
> painting the rest of the US with such a broad paintbrush. I also
feel that you cry
> a little too loudly when you complain of being bombarded with
religious music
> during the holidays. No one is preaching to you there, it's just
music out in
> public. What does Jingle Bells have to do with any religion? Would
you outlaw
> the ringing of bells next because sometimes they have a religious
connotation
> and you feel you shouldn't have to hide in your home to avoid them?
Besides,
> our holidays have losts nearly all of their religious connotations
due to
> commercialism. Easter is more closely tied to the Easter bunny than
to
> Christ's death. Halloween (all Hallow's Eve) is now more closely
tied to pagan
> rituals and candy, and Xmas is more closely tied to toys and a fat
man in a red
> suit than to the birth of Christ.
>
> Our society is both spiritual and secular and we need to learn to
live with each
> other.
>
> There were enough other issues at stake to make someone vote for
Bush
> besides religion and I'm one of them. I keep saying that religion
isn't playing a
> large part in my life right now and I keep getting lumped in with
Jerry Falwell by
> some people anyway.
>
> And if you think I'm misquoting you here, I suggest you review the
map you
> just posted. Those kind of broad, sweeping, DISCRIMINATORY
statements are
> beneath a man of your education. The map you posted was quite the
same as
> me claiming that "all blacks are good at sports" or "all Muslims
beat their
> wives". What if I posted a map of the US and Asia and it was
labled "Good"
> and "Evil"? You'd be the first one in my face calling me a racist.
>
> The hypocrisy in here is comical. I am STILL waiting for Jack (or
anyone) to
> explain how he came to the purely arbitrary determination that homo-
familial
> marriages between brothers and sisters are "bad" or "wierd" and
will never be
> accepted by society considering that his only criteria for "good"
or "bad"
> seems to be whether or not it harms him directly, or whether or not
it's kept in
> the privacy of one's own bedroom.
>
> I love my new euphemism. "Homo-familial". Incest has such an ugly,
> backwards connotation to it. I certainly wouldn't want to offend
anyone.
>
> Rich
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