Re: [DMCForum] An insult to Dave

[Parrot Head Radio <jackstiefel@xxxxxxxxx>]

I have met Dave before also, and found him cordial and friendly as
well, this is why I am so confused at his derragority comments toward
myself and others solely because of our supposed party affiliation. 
Thats great that he drove to bring you a radiator, but you must have
been reading his posts over the last several weeks.  Does this appear
to be the same person?

I only quote places I read, most if not all of my posts are from Fox,
CNN, CBS, heck even ABC, WSJ and others of the like, I don't read or
take a lot of weight of those off the wall groups.  I have never
quoted Moore, although I have seen 9/11 and find most of it very
fascinating.

The problem is the topic escelated beyond the basic trading of
information.  Possibly Dave misread my posts and took offense early
on, I am not sure.  I tried many MANY times to tell him what my point
was, and all he did was twist it and turn it against me.  All I was
pointing out is every "opinion" someone says against his, he sarcastly
asks for proof, while never giving any of his own.  When anyone gives
him that proof, there is never any response.  He sarcaticly asked for
my proof on Republican fraud, and welcomed the further debate once I
found it. I posted about 5 articles from credible sources, and again
nothing.  Dave has stated why he is not responding and thats fine,
many people live happily in a rose colored world in a big beautiful
glass house.  As I have said before both parties have flaws and bad
deeds, these can be proven a thousand times over.  I look at myself as
a Republicrat, or Demopublican, your pick, my heart bleeds, but I
wanna make tons of money.

Politics have always seperated people.  My Father-In-Law is the same
way.  We have heated discussions all the time.  He too is a die hard
Rep, and no matter what facts I bring to his attention to support my
opinion, he has to reduce it to "Liberal Democrat" bashing.

I blame no one but myself for my lot in life.  I am self-employed,
support my family, give to charities, help my friends and neighbors. 
I don't believe in a government conspiricy (you have me confused with
others).  I believe there are bad people out there doing bad things
either in small groups or on their own.  The Man is not putting me
down or hurting my life.  I believe Clinton had a better idea than
Bush Sr or Jr.  The proof is in the pudding.  Ask any small business
owner when they made the most money in the last 15 years.  I bet most
will say from mid to late 90's.

Jack


On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 13:37:05 -0000, cruznmd <racuti1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> ...to compare him with CheckSix3.
> 
> It's obvious that you've never met Dave. He is one of the most 
> generous, resourceful, intelligent and gentle people I have ever met. 
> He doesn't force his views on anyone, but he doesn't stand by and let 
> people spew mis-information either. He's far from a religious zealot. 
> I've never even heard him speak of religion. He just believes in 
> taking ownership of your life and your situation and not blaming 
> shadowy government conspiricies. 
> 
> It is my -opinion- that the reason he declines to argue your "proof" 
> when you post articles is because you post sources such as Moore, and 
> other obviously biased resources. I have trouble even believing the 
> major news outlets (including foxnews)these days but you guy post 
> links to moveon.org etc. which would fall into the Pacific if they 
> were any more to the left.
> 
> Dave Titlebaum comes across as rather abrasive on the DML sometimes. 
> I thought he was such a jerk at first. When I met him at PJ Grady's, 
> I couldn't believe how wrong I was! 
> 
> My uncle calls people who whine about their lot in life "professional 
> victims". Nothing is ever their fault. It's the government's, their 
> ex-wive's, their boss's...
> 
> David Stragand drove 300 miles to give me a radiator and help me 
> install it, working until 2 a.m. in an ice-cold garage for nothing 
> more than a case of Dr. Pepper (which I still owe him) and he had 
> never even met me! He had barely even spoken to me by email.
> 
> It's worth considering.
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
> 
> 
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