RE: [doc] Re: Value of VIN 16118, ebay 928 mile? car NEED ADVICE

["Richard Hanlon" <rahanlon@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

All good points so far.  Check for a shiny steering wheel and worn 
pedal-rubbers.  Both are good general indicators of the amount of driving 
she's had. As Phill says,  I gather the Lambda counter can be a good 
tell-tale on mileage, but you'll need to be an acrobat to get a look at it!!

Good luck - and use your head, not your heart!

Rich H

>From: "Mike Bosworth" <mike.bosworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [doc] Re: Value of VIN 16118, ebay 928 mile? car NEED ADVICE
>Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:20:17 -0000
>
>Hi
>
>Since you are asking for advice, i would give you this, im sorry if
>its not what you want to hear, the car you are looking at is not a
>cheap one at $26k, its quite a lot of money for a D. Forgetting the
>low mileage part of the equation , for $26k you can get a heck of a
>lot of a good car thats been well maintained and 'updated', if this
>milage is true , ( does it 'look like' its done less than 1000 miles
>ie origional tyres, seat covers etc, does the spedo work smoothly and
>correctly?, it seems to have a few extras fitted for a car with so
>little miles on it, sorry yes im a suspicious person ) you probably
>have a lot of origional parts on the car that will wear out and
>quickly and need replacing, eaxctly what has been done to maintain it
>over the years and been replaced? dont buy a car on low miles alone,
>it can have quite the opposite effect on reliabilty, cars like to
>be 'used'.
>
>The frame is painted, this did happen on some 83's but i would really
>check this out for signs of the dreaded frame rust.Are the control
>arms etc in a 1000 mile condition. Where has this car been all of its
>life?
>
>Just looking at cars for sale in the US at the mo there seems to be
>quite a few cars out there in an A1 condition, that have had things
>like Tab's and water pumps, fuel systems etc etc replaced, things you
>need to be thinking about prior to the purchase of your car, these
>items all add up and if they have not been addressed already will
>need to be.
>
>There are a lot of knowledgable people on these DMC lists i would
>urge you to take account of all advice before you purchase any car.
>
>Good Luck on your purchase
>
>Kind Regards
>
>Mike
>#2001
>
>--- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Packodenton@xxxx wrote:
> >
> > Hello Gentleman:
> >
> > Here in Pittsburgh to purchase VIN 16118.
> >
> > Had to deal with three sales people so far, and I am pretty close
>to a
> > purchase price.
> >
> > The car is a low mile 1983, with 928 miles on the odometer. There
>are a few
> > questions I have;
> >
> > 1) The undercarriage is undercoated with tar. Some DeLoreans were
>prepared
> > at the docks in Belfast and the QAC's to hide the rust from the sea
>air. Is
> > this  a problem especially with the sensitivity of the DMC chassis?
> >
> > 2) the center arm rest area/window switch area has been modified to
>include
> > a toggle switch & warning light, I suspect for the cooling fans.
>This part  is
> > no longer available?
> >
> > 3) frame tow hooks are badly bent  from towing the car.
> >
> > 4) the cooling system hoses have a plastic tie wraps holding the
>hoses
> > together.
> >
> > 5) there is a small chuck missing from the lower passenger seat
>cover. It  is
> > noticeable
> >
> > 6) center steering pad has a DMC pin glued onto it.
> >
> > 7) the shifter plate for automatic has a thermostat hot glued to it
>where
> > the 1981 clocks are located.
> >
> > 8) The original coil cover for 1983's has been replaced with a
>1981  version.
> >
> > My offer of $26,000 was considered as the dealer counter offered
>to  $28,000.
> > He wants more than $32,000 for the car. It does have a  cover,
>extra oil, air
> > & fuel filters, workshop manual, window stickers  etc.
> >
> > What is your advice?
> >
> > Sincerely Yours,
> > Michael Pack
> >
> >
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> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]--- In doc-
>uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Packodenton@xxxx wrote:
> >
> > Hello Gentleman:
> >
> > Here in Pittsburgh to purchase VIN 16118.
> >
> > Had to deal with three sales people so far, and I am pretty close
>to a
> > purchase price.
> >
> > The car is a low mile 1983, with 928 miles on the odometer. There
>are a few
> > questions I have;
> >
> > 1) The undercarriage is undercoated with tar. Some DeLoreans were
>prepared
> > at the docks in Belfast and the QAC's to hide the rust from the sea
>air. Is
> > this  a problem especially with the sensitivity of the DMC chassis?
> >
> > 2) the center arm rest area/window switch area has been modified to
>include
> > a toggle switch & warning light, I suspect for the cooling fans.
>This part  is
> > no longer available?
> >
> > 3) frame tow hooks are badly bent  from towing the car.
> >
> > 4) the cooling system hoses have a plastic tie wraps holding the
>hoses
> > together.
> >
> > 5) there is a small chuck missing from the lower passenger seat
>cover. It  is
> > noticeable
> >
> > 6) center steering pad has a DMC pin glued onto it.
> >
> > 7) the shifter plate for automatic has a thermostat hot glued to it
>where
> > the 1981 clocks are located.
> >
> > 8) The original coil cover for 1983's has been replaced with a
>1981  version.
> >
> > My offer of $26,000 was considered as the dealer counter offered
>to  $28,000.
> > He wants more than $32,000 for the car. It does have a  cover,
>extra oil, air
> > & fuel filters, workshop manual, window stickers  etc.
> >
> > What is your advice?
> >
> > Sincerely Yours,
> > Michael Pack
> >
> >
> > NOTE:   THIS DOCUMENT MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND NONPUBLIC
>INFORMATION.  IT
> > IS  INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL(S) OR ENTITY(IES)
>NAMED
> > ABOVE, AND  OTHERS SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED TO RECEIVE IT.  If you
>are not the
> > intended  recipient of this document, you are notified that any
>review,
> > dissemination,  distribution or copying of this communication is
>prohibited.  If you have
> >  received this communication in error, please notify me immediately
>by return
> >  email, delete the electronic message and destroy any printed
>copies.  Thank
> > you for your cooperation.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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