Steve, In other words you intentionally lied with the intent to disrupt things here. And for what it's worth, I don't recall anybody ever calling somebody an idiot for carrying a spare. Those of us that don't carry them simply go by a different and more modern approach to this issue (nothing wrong wit the older style). FYI, I've had my cars towed more often due to an accident then I've had by a blown or flat tire. In fact, with the last 9 or so flats I've had, 0 have required a spare or tow. Like I said, there are different ways to approach this and just because somebody does it differently does not make them wrong. Chris VIN 4099 P.S. For clarification, I carry a compressor and a can of fix-a-flat in all my cars. Most flats are slow leaking and a compressor gets you going again. Fix-a-flat is for the worse leaks. A tow is only a last resort. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [DML] No spare? From: Stephen Rice <stevedmc@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, July 26, 2013 5:47 am To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For what its worth, I carry a full size spare along with a fire extinguisher. To me it doesn't make sense sitting on the side of the road for an hour waiting for a tow truck. In that hour people will approach you. Being approached by complete strangers on shoulder of the road in the middle of nowhere at night is not safe in my opinion. A few weeks ago I was traveling from Baton Rouge, Louisiana to the Nashville area. About half way into my trip the tread separated on one of my rear tires that was purchased less than three years ago. The tire had plenty of tread yet was a cheap made in China Primewell tire. I made sure I had control of the car, steered onto the shoulder, and replaced the tire with my full size spare. Despite what people will tell you, what was left of my rear tire and rim fit nicely in the trunk space. I was able to close the bonnet with no problem at all. The whole thing took me about 5 minutes and I was on my way. I then stopped at the nearest exit, about 5 miles away, did a visual inspection and made a few phone calls. The nearest city with tire options was 50 miles away. Had I relied on AAA they would have towed me to the nearest tire store and I would have to wait for them to order something. Just because a tow truck can arrive in an hour, it doesn't mean your car will be back on the road in an hour. I drove my car at interstate speed for 50 miles until I made it to Pepboys. I could have continued my trip on my full size spare but I simply didn't trust the rest of the tires. I had the full set replaced and I was on my way. I had a commitment to be at an event for 8pm in the Nashville area for someone that was paying to rent my car. Had I waited for AAA I never would have been able to keep my obligation. And yes, I do carry a fire extinguisher in my car despite my question about the necessity of having one. Frankly I don't understand how one can say a spare tire is stupid, yet a fire extinguisher is not. Every car has the potential for problems whether it be new or old. Being responsible and preparing to be able to take care of yourself is your choice. If you want others to be responsible for you, then that is your choice. David T, its now your turn to share your wisdom. -Steve Rice ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/