Re: [DML] R134 Freon @ $6.40 Per Can

[Cliff Schmucker <cliff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

He's legit, instead of saying "Free Shipping", it is a way to charge another $10

incidentally, a couple years ago you could buy 30# cylinders of R-134a from
Sam's Club for a really decent price, but they no longer carry it


so, want to get legal?  it's pretty easy to get your EPA 609 MVAC Certification:
http://www.epatest.com/software/

on-line training, study guides, open book on-line test, cost is $19.95 

the "catch" is that to stay legal you have to invest in the proper equipment to
reclaim/recycle freon, but with the current price of R-12 (and the continued
increase of R-134a), it is a good investment if you are doing many cars

a typical Delorean that is not cooling is down to about a pound of freon, but by
reclaiming it, drying it, removing any air, and evacuating, leak testing, &
drying the entire system you get by with only needing to add a pound or so every
few years, and you know precisely how much total freon is in there (which is
impossible to know if you just "top it off")

it is very easy to service and take care of a system that has always had R-12 in
it, or one that has been *properly* converted to R-134a (ref. SAE document 1661,
"Procedures for Retrofitting R-12 in mobile A/C systems to HFC-134a") - it is a
mess on the ones that were "converted" using the $30 "kits" from Walmart, etc.

BTW, see http://www.epatest.com/faq/609/ for a good FAQ on MVAC

Cliff



On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:47:00 -0500, Steve Rice wrote:

>That does look like a good deal but there is no way he can legally
>ship a hazardous material for $10.  I wouldn't trust someone that
>ships hazardos materials via regular shipping services.
>
>-Steve Rice
>#16510
>
>On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Cliff Schmucker
><cliff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Ebay 330534831099 (Buy it now) = $3.75/12 oz. including shipping, he has QTY
>> 77 sealed 30# cylinders of R-134a still available
>>
>> My personal preference for a Delorean that has not had the A/C
>> "contaminated" is R-12, but that is another discussion.....
>>
>> Cliff
>>



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