I think Bills point is that some people don't like the suspension the way it we designed an do not want to track and feel every little bump on the road. I you want your car to track them leave it alone. If you don't want it to track then consider upgrading to Spec .01 steering. -- Steve Rice #16510 On Jun 14, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Michael Griese <mike.griese@xxxxxxx> wrote: > My point is, the DeLorean steering and suspension is built the way it is for a > reason. It is not a case of "bad design". > > > -- > Mike > > > > > ________________________________ > From: content22207 <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thu, June 14, 2012 12:31:23 PM > Subject: Re: [DML] Forgot to Mention > > > Myself and others who are interested in this project do not drive LeMans. We do > not push our tires' contact path to their limit on a regular basis. Rather, we > GT cruise over what is left of America's highway infrastructure. Speaking only > for myself: I do not want to feel washboard pavement, tractor tire ruts, > potholes, patchwork repairs, etc transmitted through my steering wheel. In the > current state of our highway system, a little numbness would be appreciated. > Even my F150's with rudimentary I beam suspensions are smoother to steer over > bad pavement than my DeLorean. > > Bill Robertson > #5939 > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Michael Griese <mike.griese@...> wrote: >> >> Lotus didn't use rag joints in the steering on any of their cars except for >> maybe the Evora - I haven't looked at that model in sufficient detail to know >> but I would be surprised if they did. Rag joints numb the steering response and >> >> feel. >> >> A properly maintained steering system (which includes the front suspension) >> should not have regular vibrations. If it does, fix that problem first before > >> deciding if additional dampening is desired. What the Lotus design provides is >> >> very tactile >vibration free< feedback from the contact patch of the front >> wheels to the drivers hands. That is very important for drivers who like to >> track their cars, and a significant number of Lotus owners do just that. >> Knowing when the tire is going over bumps, seams, uneven or loose pavement is >> good to know when you are pushing the contact patch to its limit. Rag joints >> also make it impossible to feel the tire tread moving around, which makes it >> hard to know when the contact patch is at the limit. >> >> Personally I prefer manual steering cars with no rag joints. Cars like our BMW >> >> 3 series or even the Boxster feel numb and disconnected from the road compared > >> to my Elise, Esprit and DeLorean. Most of that is due to the power steering >> systems. Our pickup is just hopeless. >> >> -- >> Mike >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links > > > ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/