My point is, the DeLorean steering and suspension is built the way it is for a reason. It is not a case of "bad design". -- Mike ________________________________ From: content22207 <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, June 14, 2012 12:31:23 PM Subject: Re: [DML] Forgot to Mention Myself and others who are interested in this project do not drive LeMans. We do not push our tires' contact path to their limit on a regular basis. Rather, we GT cruise over what is left of America's highway infrastructure. Speaking only for myself: I do not want to feel washboard pavement, tractor tire ruts, potholes, patchwork repairs, etc transmitted through my steering wheel. In the current state of our highway system, a little numbness would be appreciated. Even my F150's with rudimentary I beam suspensions are smoother to steer over bad pavement than my DeLorean. Bill Robertson #5939 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Michael Griese <mike.griese@...> wrote: > > Lotus didn't use rag joints in the steering on any of their cars except for > maybe the Evora - I haven't looked at that model in sufficient detail to know > but I would be surprised if they did. Rag joints numb the steering response and > > feel. > > A properly maintained steering system (which includes the front suspension) > should not have regular vibrations. If it does, fix that problem first before > deciding if additional dampening is desired. What the Lotus design provides is > > very tactile >vibration free< feedback from the contact patch of the front > wheels to the drivers hands. That is very important for drivers who like to > track their cars, and a significant number of Lotus owners do just that. > Knowing when the tire is going over bumps, seams, uneven or loose pavement is > good to know when you are pushing the contact patch to its limit. Rag joints > also make it impossible to feel the tire tread moving around, which makes it > hard to know when the contact patch is at the limit. > > Personally I prefer manual steering cars with no rag joints. Cars like our BMW > > 3 series or even the Boxster feel numb and disconnected from the road compared > to my Elise, Esprit and DeLorean. Most of that is due to the power steering > systems. Our pickup is just hopeless. > > -- > Mike > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/