Re: [DML] The COMPLETE DeLorean crash test videos, report and more.

[sand131@xxxxxxx]

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ralph 
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In a message dated 3/20/2012 4:53:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
cbl302@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

 
 
 
Possible..

But a big difference in Build..the Delorean is Built on a  MILD Steel 
Frame..integrated with the Black body's High density Foam "bumpers"  backed/ 
bonded onto Aluminum panels and the High density Foam Filled  firewall/Lower 
Horizontal H.D.side rails and Vertical Roll panel and the SS  beams inside the 
gull wing doors that integrate it all together.

On the  Bricklin it starts with a overbuilt Massive steel Frame..with built 
in shock  absorbers with a Massive Steel backed front and rear bumpers 
built with a very  high shock absorbing materials.

Attached to this Full oversize frame is  a very massive "birdcage" 
frame/Roll cage that totally surrounds the  passengers in both vertical and 
Horizontal Dimensions/ positions added to that  are very heavy and massive gull-wing 
doors with a massive honeycomb side  impact Beam built into the doors for 
both side impacts and to absorb/transfer  frontal and rear impacts..AROUND 
the Passengers..rather than through the  passengers.This is WHY Hydro or air 
doors were needed..and manual windows were  installed..as the doors are too 
heavy to open if flipped.

Also the  Bricklin Panels were Engineered to Absorb the shock of 
impacts..as they were  made from Fiberglass and Acyclic was bonded onto the surface of 
the panels to  absorb shock..in fact during the Premiere showing of the 
Bricklin a hammer was  placed next to a Bricklin and people were allowed(with 
permission) to hit the  front fenders with the hammer..to show that they 
could not be damaged and  Absorbed the shock from the hammer without damaging 
the Fenders.. 

All  in all the Bricklin's main Claim to fame was as a Sports safety 
Vehicle SV-1  (Safety Vehicle Model 1)

On the other Hand The Delorean started Out as  a Sports Safety 
Vehicle(remember the designation it was originally given as a  DSV ..Delorean Safety 
Vehicle..then DMC12..Then just De Lorean..

JZD  backed off on the DSV and went with MINIMAL Safety Standards just 
enough to  Pass DOT standards(cost and weight savings)hence the mild steel frame 
and Not  a SS frame as he envisioned(cracking problems in severe cold 
climates)or using  a steel cage to surround the passengers or even integrated 
into the Fiberglass  body(cost savings)by using the process that he used.

All in all I FEEL  SAFER in a Bricklin..more than in a Delorean..Just my 
gut  feelings...

Claude
1024
Bric 

--- In _dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) ,  
sidaries@... wrote:
>
> That test is only 30 mph. If you see the  difference between the 
Delorean's
> 35 mph and 40 mph test, it is  possible, but on the same speed, the two 
cars
> crash would be  similar.
> 
> Viktor
> 
> 
> Idézet  ("cbl302@..." <cbl302@...>):
> 
> > Forgot This...  Compare the Brickin crash test at 35mph to the 
> > Delorean crash  test...
> >
> > _http://www.bricklin.org/BI_CrashTest.htm_ 
(http://www.bricklin.org/BI_CrashTest.htm) 
>  >
> > Notice the Cabin was 100% untouched and the Doors were FULLY  
> > operational...as far as I remember even the windshield DID NOT  crack..
> >
> > Now which car would you rather be in in a  Collision..
> >
> > BTW..the Hood sustained NO damage and  that Bricklin WAS repaired and 
> > put back to use
>  >
> > Claude
> > 1024
> > bric
>  >
> > --- In _dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) , 
"cbl302@"  <cbl302@> wrote:
> >>
> >>
>  >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > This doesn't  bear out Claude's flippant and inaccurate comment 
about the
> >>  > occupants being "DOA", as he posted earlier.
> >>
>  >> Hey James...As for being "flippant and inaccurate comment about  the
> >> occupants being "DOA",
> >>
> >>  In THAT particular Test(the 40mph test) they would have either been 
>  >> vegetables or DOA..for lack of a secure door..Just look at how the  
> >> door folded up like tin foil..(along with the rest of the  car..and 
> >> SS is Waaay stronger than human bones/flesh...Their  internal organs 
> >> would have been "compressing and distorting"  in the same fashion as 
> >> the car was..their heads would have  been fine..but their brain(s) 
> >> would have been shaking like  jello in a bowl..not good if you plan 
> >> on living...
>  >>
> >> If those "were" real humans..they would have been  goners..For one 
> >> thing the Air bags were way over-sized for  such a small confined 
> >> space..and if you look at how the test  dummies ended up..there was 
> >> NO WAY they could have  survived.. I sure as hell would NOT want to 
> >> have been in  that 40 mph crash..however the 35mph video shows a 
> >> Very  survivable crash..with maybe just very bad neck and leg 
> >>  injures ..again airbags that deployed with way to much force..
>  >>
> >> Claude
> >> 1024
> >>  bric
> >>
> >
> >
>  >
>






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