[DML] Re: Misleading advice...

["content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

1) Improved access
2) Increased performance
3) No heat damage
4) Looks better (IMHO)
5) Pride & satisfaction in creating something of my own design 
6) Spare muffler to cut open and prove Martin wrong 

Don't know if it's a circus, but it is my car....

BTW: if the NJ owner Marc mentioned also running Spec .01 is the DMA member I am thinking of, that conversion (upgrade) was done completely without my knowledge. He noticed the mufflers on the back of my car, crawled underneath while it was parked and took a good look at what I had done, then recreated it himself. First I knew of his conversion (upgrade) was this year at FFT when he told me to crawl underneath his car and look at the finished installation. As Steve pointed out, you don't have to say a word -- people simply see your modified car in person and draw their own conclusions. The mods (upgrades) stand on their own merits.

Bill Robertson
#5939




--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Martin Gutkowski" <martin@...> wrote:
>
> And so the Bill Circus rolls into town once again....
> 
> "A better long term solution" to a problem owners almost never see and is easily circumvented anyway?
> 
> Is it a design flaw? The stock setup is very neat from a packaging standpoint even if it offends your diy mechanic sensibilities. And once again: it combines flow from the two banks and heat is not an issue if the cat is in proper working order (or absent altogether).
> 
> Martin
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "content22207" <brobertson@...>
> Sender: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 04:31:10 
> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [DML] Re: Misleading advice...
> 
> Getting back to the post that started this thread (before you all derailed it):
> 
> No one can deny that a gigantic muffler across the back of the car precludes using a socket wrench to turn the engine during valve adjustments. There are ways around that (including pushing your car all over the garage), but I think substituting dual mufflers mounted somewhere else is a better long term solution, not just for access but also to avoid heat damage to the engine and fascia.
> 
> And yes, I think proper dual exhaust is an "upgrade."
> 
> Bill Robertson
> #5939
> 
> 
> 
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@> wrote:
> >
> > I was thinking the same thing.  I have worked on a number of early 1980's cars, with carburetors AND catalytic converters.  Those cars also had a massive web of vacuum lines, and wires (O2 sensors that would adjust the carburetor), and most that I can think of also had air pumps to keep the Catalytic converters working properly.
> > 
> > Once again, when you own a car you are free to do with it as you wish (even if the law says otherwise)-  but is it irresponsible to be advising others that these modifications are somehow an "upgrade". 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Sat, 2/25/12, Harold <hmcelraft@> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Harold <hmcelraft@>
> > > Subject: [DML] Re: Advantages of Spec .01 Exhaust
> > > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Date: Saturday, February 25, 2012, 6:03 PM
> > > "Don't let your personal biases
> > > obscure facts."
> > > 
> > > You're kidding around! â?" Right?
> > >  
> > > 80's engines with carburetors had all sorts of timing
> > > anomalies and usually an exhaust gas recirculation valve not
> > > to mention a complex fuel metering system in the carbs. You
> > > cannot possibly expect an engine developed with fuel
> > > injection to meet California emission standards to even come
> > > close to those standards again when you toss all the fuel
> > > components away and do a Rube Goldberg carburetor install. 
> > > 
> > > It is interesting, a novelty for discussion and may even
> > > work well enough to drive around. But don't try to claim it
> > > is even close to meeting the design and emission
> > > requirements at the original date or now. I doubt if it is
> > > even possible if money were no object.
> > > 
> > > All you have done with your carburetor and exhaust is to
> > > step backward technologically and dirty the air.
> > > Congratulations!
> > > 
> > > Harold McElraft - 3354
> > > 
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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