And so the Bill Circus rolls into town once again.... "A better long term solution" to a problem owners almost never see and is easily circumvented anyway? Is it a design flaw? The stock setup is very neat from a packaging standpoint even if it offends your diy mechanic sensibilities. And once again: it combines flow from the two banks and heat is not an issue if the cat is in proper working order (or absent altogether). Martin Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: "content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sender: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 04:31:10 To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] Re: Misleading advice... Getting back to the post that started this thread (before you all derailed it): No one can deny that a gigantic muffler across the back of the car precludes using a socket wrench to turn the engine during valve adjustments. There are ways around that (including pushing your car all over the garage), but I think substituting dual mufflers mounted somewhere else is a better long term solution, not just for access but also to avoid heat damage to the engine and fascia. And yes, I think proper dual exhaust is an "upgrade." Bill Robertson #5939 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@...> wrote: > > I was thinking the same thing. I have worked on a number of early 1980's cars, with carburetors AND catalytic converters. Those cars also had a massive web of vacuum lines, and wires (O2 sensors that would adjust the carburetor), and most that I can think of also had air pumps to keep the Catalytic converters working properly. > > Once again, when you own a car you are free to do with it as you wish (even if the law says otherwise)- but is it irresponsible to be advising others that these modifications are somehow an "upgrade". > > > --- On Sat, 2/25/12, Harold <hmcelraft@...> wrote: > > > From: Harold <hmcelraft@...> > > Subject: [DML] Re: Advantages of Spec .01 Exhaust > > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Date: Saturday, February 25, 2012, 6:03 PM > > "Don't let your personal biases > > obscure facts." > > > > You're kidding around! â€" Right? > > > > 80's engines with carburetors had all sorts of timing > > anomalies and usually an exhaust gas recirculation valve not > > to mention a complex fuel metering system in the carbs. You > > cannot possibly expect an engine developed with fuel > > injection to meet California emission standards to even come > > close to those standards again when you toss all the fuel > > components away and do a Rube Goldberg carburetor install. > > > > It is interesting, a novelty for discussion and may even > > work well enough to drive around. But don't try to claim it > > is even close to meeting the design and emission > > requirements at the original date or now. I doubt if it is > > even possible if money were no object. > > > > All you have done with your carburetor and exhaust is to > > step backward technologically and dirty the air. > > Congratulations! > > > > Harold McElraft - 3354 > > > > > ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/