The standard LCAs do not flex under normal use, they are strong in the planes in which they need to be strong. Someone on the old DMCTalk did FEA on a model and confirmed the "boxing in" achieves very little. Please don't forget to consider Toby Peterson's re-worked ARB bushes which eliminate the vast majority of problems (mainly brake induced) while maintaining the intended design. It's a fraction of the price of Ed's outriggers too. Martin Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: "content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sender: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:12:26 To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] Upgraded Front Suspension Ed Uding's outriggers were designed by one DeLorean Motor Company franchise, and are sold stateside by another DeLorean Motor Company franchise. Can we assume they are a DeLorean Motor Company approved product? Does anyone know how much more wiggly an OEM LCA is with Ed's outriggers than one of Byrne's arms? Bill Robertson #5939 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Michael Griese <mike.griese@...> wrote: > > Basically Lotus modified the original LCA to take on a lower A arm geometry. > They separated the fore/aft location of the LCA from the ARB by adding the extra > piece. The washer you see is not a collar but a washer used to compress the > bushing on the end of the ARB. The reasons Lotus did this was the improvements > in tire technologies over the years, the increase in horsepower available from > the drivetrain and the improvements in braking. The improved grip of > performance tires was starting to overwhelm the suspension design. > > -- > Mike > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Marc Levy <malevy_nj@...> > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wed, October 26, 2011 1:11:28 PM > Subject: Re: [DML] Upgraded Front Suspension > > > Google helped me find a photo, but maybe someone with a Lotus can explain what > is going on? > > http://homepages.ipact.nl/~theunissen/index_files/image052.jpg > > I can see where the extra support bar was added. Nice that they have it so > close to the lower ball joint. That extra arm is bolted back to the frame so > the LCA cannot move forward/aft. > > The ARB (Anti-Roll Bar, I see someone asked what ARB was) looks a bit thinner > than ours, and there is some sort of aluminum collar insert in the bushing?? Is > that a slide of some sort, so the ARB does not bind in the LCA as it moves up > and down?? > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/