Steven, What happens when you unplug the start inhibit relay that transfers power to the solenoid thru the w/r wire. Does it stay engaged? If so then the w/y wire coming from the key switch is the wire to the problem. The w/y powers the relay, then powers the solenoid to say engaged. John Hervey www.deloreanautoparts.com -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stephen Jaeger Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:04 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] Starter run on. I found out why my starter run on problem was occurring but I'm still looking for the root cause. I also believe the cause of the problem is unique to my car due to a PO rewire job, but I'll throw it out there anyway. There are two blue-yellow wires that connect together by the starter and then connect to the starter. One of the B-Y wires goes to the ignition resistor and the other I traced to the thermotime sensor and cold start valve(CSV). The stray voltage that causes the starter run on comes thru the B-Y wire from the thermotime and CSV. I can disconnect the plugs on either one of these and the run on stops. Unplugging the B-Y wire at the ignition resistor did not stop the run on. This is as far as I got, mostly due to a lack of desire to undo wiring harnesses to trace further. One thing we did figure out is the resistor looking thing in the B-Y wires (mentioned previously) was actually a diode. I assume it was the PO's attempt at solving the problem. I'd like to give a special thanks to Mike Clemens for his unwavering help in trying to solve this problem for me. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Jaeger To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 8:18 PM Subject: [DML] Starter run on. I thought I had figured out that my starter run on problem was the starter solenoid and or starter. But after installing a new starter, I still have the problem. Here is a summary of events. - I changed the exhaust manifold a few months ago. While removing and installing the starter, I broke a resister looking component that was in the blue-yellow wire connected to the solenoid. I didn't see this thing on the wiring diagram so I left it out. I ran the car for a few weeks without a problem. Oh ya, did I mention that the run on problem only occurs on a warm re-start of the car, not at the cold start. So I might not have tried a warm start during this time. - Then I tackled the steering column bushing which meant removing the steering column, ignition switch, etc. - After I got everything back together, I had the run on problems begin. - I did the starter relay test i.e., while the run on was occurring, I removed the relay and the starter run on continued. So ah ha, I concluded that it was not the ignition switch or relay but had to be the starter or solenoid. But as mention above, a new started and solenoid did not solve the problem. Any help on where to go from here would be appreciated. Anyone know what the resister in the blue-yellow wire might have been for? Steve [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/