Dave. I agree turning the bar up higher (tighter) to overcome a weak strut is bad and that struts are cheap, torsion bars and hinges are not. I also agree that if struts date-stamped sometime in the mid-80s and door actually works, that the bar is probably turned up too high to compensate for a weak strut. However, I'm not sure that all of this would be true with a bar that has a different/new design from the original. Dan ________________________________ From: daveswingle2 <swingle_dmc@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 10:11:07 PM Subject: [DML] Re: Driver Side Torsion Unit My original comment was not directed at the bar or its design, it was directed at the idea of turning the bar up higher (tighter) to overcome a weak strut. Struts are cheap, torsion bars and hinges are not. My pet peeve is cars coming in with struts date-stamped sometime in the mid-80s and the door actually works. You KNOW that torsion bar and hinge are under way too much stress. Sorry for any confusion. Dave s --- In dmcnews@yahoogroups .com, Daniel Plakosh <dplakosh2@. ..> wrote: > > Martin, > > There could be many causes for the hinge failures (such as hinges that have voids in the metal in some spots - could be a manufacturing defects that got through QA). These hinges may fail regardless of which torsion bar is used. Unfortunately, I've seen many times that common sense does [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/