Ron & Dave, Although I should mention that failure of the pipe is relatively rare rub marks from this hot air stove pipe are very common and I recommend that any owner would be wise to insulate the coolant pipe in this area with a piece of 1 ¼ ? rubber hose. Just slit the side of a 2? long piece and either bond or zip tie it to the pipe. Rob Grady, P, J, Grady Inc. _____ From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of gullwingmag Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:29 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean reliability --- In HYPERLINK "mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com"dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty@..-.> wrote: IMHO reliablitity is DIRECTLY related to the amount of preventive maintainence performed. If you just drive the car till it stops and then repair only what's broken that is not the definition of "Well Maintained". David Teitelbaum vin 10757 While I agree with you in principal, sometimes reality has something else in store for you. Before we left Gettysburg a car in our group sprung a leak... not an old hose, or old rad, or worn out waterpump... things preventive maintainence would have caught. This leak sprung in the aluminum water pipe by the the water bottle.... a hole was rubbed in it by the heat riser pipe! Rob Grady was kind enough to help us find this very unusual leak... Rob said he has only seen this a few times. So, everybody add this to your list of things to just look at and check because "normal" maintainence my not have you checking on something like this. We also replaced an alternator that was only 1 year old. It was replaced last year before the Houston show just because it was starting to show signs of weakness. Who would have ever guessed the new one would fail within a year. Anyway... just pointing out that sometimes even well maintained cars come up with some unexpected "off the radar" failures. Ron DeLorean Midstate Club "...still no dues and going strong" No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1551 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:49 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.11/1553 - Release Date: 7/15/2008 5:48 AM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/