this is an excellent idea. I too would be willing to pre-pay for an updated manual ________________________________ From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Tom Tait Sent: Wed 5/14/2008 12:35 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [DML] Re: Original Shop Manuals The monetary reasons for not doing it are probably a big factor, as you suggested. I'd be willing to pre-order updated documentation though. I'd want a hard copy, but if enough of us pre-paid that should be possible too. Perhaps a committed could meet to at least identify all the errors and missing items from the current shop manual, as well a a list of resources that might be added to the new one (photos from How-toos, etc?) It might then make sense for one of the vendors to come up with a plan for updating the manuals, including a list of all the proposed changes, and offer it for pre-sale. Obviously they could give comp copies to anyone who made a significant contribution to the process. Tom 10902 -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of David Teitelbaum Sent: Wed 5/14/2008 7:30 AM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] Re: Original Shop Manuals A while back DMCH was working on a revised Workshop Manual and Parts Manual. I sent them my notes. I never heard anything about it after that. Maybe you might want to talk to James E about it. It would be a good idea but it is a monumental project. Too much for 1 person on a part-time basis to do with no hope of monetary reward. The biggest problem is once a "new" manual gets out there is no way to prevent copies from appearing and cutting into sales. An interactive computer version would be the only way to go. That way you could control the distribution. Even with that the potential market is just too limited, that's why we continue to live with what we have. It's not so bad when you look around at what some other "Orphan" car owners have to work with! On a related subject, I am working with Ken on a "Guess the Part" kind of quiz for DCS '08. Have your Parts Manuals handy, some of the parts are not going to be easy! Here's a hint, some of the parts cannot be found in the Parts Manual! Here's an idea. If a bunch of us could get together at DCS'08 and create a committee to update the manuals, that way we could break the task up into more manageable, smaller pieces. It would also help with the "proofing" so we can catch each other's mistakes. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@...> wrote: > > Are you still working on a project to produce a > error-free updated manual? > > > --- deloreanernst@... wrote: > > > > So are there any advantages to getting original > > manuals? Ninety-nine percent > > of the time no. Are there any advantages to getting > > repros? Yes, they're > > cheaper and easier to get. Unfortunately, no one to > > date has updated or > > corrected any of the errors in the originals. Even > > where a Service Bulletin published > > an update or correction, the vendors still reprint > > the repro copies with the > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/