Peter: I wholly respect your expertise here. I'd just suggest that since you already have it, and it can be installed and replaced with the original bolts so quickly, why not give it a try before you sell it. Just a thought. As yu pointed out some people swear by it. Every engineer I know loves a good exercise in applied science - just take it for a spin since it's already in the garage. Tom ________________________________ From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cameron, Peter Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:43 AM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [DML] Houston Server Down? ("Front Strut Bar" Question) Bill, I have a strut bar that I'll sell to you cheap if you want it. In principle I think the strut bar is a good idea. I bought one. When I got it, I saw that the construction is such that (in my opinion - I worked as a structural engineer for many years, do have some understanding of such things) it will add little to the rigidity of the front, so I didn't install it. In fairness, the guy I bought it from (I don't remember his name now, but I think he is probably still on this list) was quite agreeable to refunding if I wasn't happy with it. I just never got around to returning it. The problem is that the bar does not attach directly to the top of the struts. Rather, there is a ~5" cantilever up from top of the strut to the inside of the trunk, where the bar is installed. This cantilever consists of a bushing held in place by a ~5/8" (1/2"?) diameter bolt. Appears to me that the stiffness of this arrangement is not sufficient to make any significant difference in the handling. There has been some discussion on this list regarding whether it really makes a difference or not, some people swear by it. Pete Cameron #3579 -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of content22207 Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:33 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [DML] Houston Server Down? ("Front Strut Bar" Question) I've been corresponding with an owner Re: a DMCMW product known as the "front strut bar". This is not a sway bar, but some aftermarket development that attaches to the front body bolts. I've never heard of such, thus tried to surf to the DMCMW website to check it out. Apparently DMCMW uses the DMCH server, which I haven't been able to access for some time now. Back then, I thought the problem might be my antiquated browsers. Just downloaded the latest versions of three (Netscape, Mozilla, and -- ugh -- IE) and still can't bring it up. Does anyone know what's going on in Houston? OR Does anyone have info and/or pics of DMCMW's "front strut bar"? I am curious about what it is. Bill Robertson #5939 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:moderators%40dmcnews.com> For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews> Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/