I was CONTRASTING owner support with paid work like Joe's. Which of course is a totally different kettle of fish than scheduled work at shops such as PJ Grady, Don Steger, etc. Note that even Rob can't seem to resist an open engine cover at club events. Be careful climbing too high on a stainless steel pedestal. Many people smarter than myself consider ALL DeLoreans P.O.S. And while they may not be on an event agenda, if owners show up in mechanical distress it would be the height of rudeness not to assist. That's why I drive around with all that crap under my hood -- it's for OTHERS' benefit, not my own. I consider it kindness, not pity. DeLorean owners need to stick together. There aren't that many of us to begin with. We get very little support from third party mechanics, who have more than enough business from cars they know and are not scared of. When you're roaring around the countryside in what is essentially a motorized fiberglass canoe, you need more friends, not fewer. Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty@...> wrote: > > Delorean Joe did NOT work for free. He acted as a vendor. The advice > he offered on the DML was free but he charged if you called him for > info. I know, when I first got my Delorean and had an automatic > transmission problem he mailed me a single sheet of paper with some > information and he charged me $2. For a long time people seemed happy > with him and his work but towards the end everything he did seemed to > have a problem. I agree with the teaching part. Unfortunetly some > owners have zero automotive knowledge and a Delorean is not the "best" > car to learn on. That doesn't mean you can't teach them, it means they > cannot do complex tasks on their own. They don't even know the safety > basics and can get into trouble very quickly. It also usually means > they don't have even basic tools or a good place to work. All too > often an owner will come to a club event in a P.O.S. hoping someone > will take pity on him and fix it for him. > David Teitelbaum > vin 10757 > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/