RE: [DML] Re: Bolt On Performance.

["John Hervey" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Welmoed,
Were talking to at least 2 guy's that want someone else to spend the money
to prove a point to them that new and improved parts don't work and perform
better than new or NOS original parts. 
I have offered up a tune up kit to both of them to pay for it, install it
and they run the dyno before and after since the performance of 100+ people
that have bought the kits are happy with them.
Maybe if they stepped up to the plate and brought a new product to the
community we could ask them the same question. All I hear now is criticism
or why this and why not that or haven't you done that. 
At this time neither has placed an order and I don't expect them to.
As far as I am concerned they can stay with the old parts whether they are
new or not. 
Has anyone seen dyno before and after on the Nology kits.
John Hervey
     

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
welmoedj
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 1:25 AM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [DML] Re: Bolt On Performance.

The guys that want to stick to NOS stuff and claim it's better than 
what was in their car have a point!
Nevertheless don't argue that those NOS parts are equal to modern 
performance technology. Proof? My car's parts (except for the coil 
were replaced 2005).
Yet as for today I still find better (improved) responses of my car 
and a better mileage than before.
That's not only due to the coil that has been replaced but also due 
to the better wires.
Don't tell me that NOS cables wll perform better than cables ith a 
far lower resistance. Don't argue that NOS coils (28kV) do better 
than Flamethrower coils (40kV).
That's not argueing, that's sticking your head in the sand and 
believe whatever the gospel tells you.
If you do not believe what other people (positively) experience it's 
not worth the time trying to convince you!
If you want to know what your money returns you in improvement and 
you do not believe the rest of the world, toss in your coins and test 
yourself.
Even if John would go for it and do the dyno himself, I'm sure it 
would be money down the drain as again you would ignore that and say 
the results were "coloured".
Keep sitting in your sheltered corner while the world moves on!

Welmoed.


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah if I had original wore out parts on my car and I installed 
all  
> of the stuff that was mentioned I would also have improved 
results.  
> However if I installed stock specification new parts I would also  
> have improved results over my old stuff.
> 
> To prove gains you have to take a test stock car, get a dyno 
baseline  
> and then start adding your goodies, not remove wore out parts and 
put  
> performance parts and say it runs and performs better because  
> naturally it will when the worn out parts are removed.
> 
> Fact is I got a huge big performance noticeable gain installing 
new  
> Plugs, Wires, cap and rotor back in 2003. However my Cap and Rotor  
> were burnt to hell, my wires were original and my Plugs were way 
out  
> of gap. Fact is that I would have noticed the same results with  
> performance parts too after removing my old junk. That is no 
baseline  
> to claim performance.
> 
> Yes when I wash and detail my car is does seem faster, it is all 
in  
> the mind by cleaning and replacing makes things better.
> 
> Claims are one thing, Dyno numbers prove claims.
> 
> Mark V


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