> Sometimes it takes a little more force than expected. You might have > to use a flat chisel and work it in several places around the pan. As > for the drain plug use a bigger wrench. It is possible the gaasket was > replaced once and glued in. The origional install didn't use much > glue. This thing about glue interest me. I just assumed it was held bolted in; I didn't know they used glue on them. Should I also be using glue when I put it back in? Any particular kind of glue? I'll pry around the edges until I get the pan to pop off. I was worried that I'd missed a bolt in some odd place or something, and I didn't want to bend the pan apart. I'll get a breaker bar for the oil pan and see if that helps. I guess I don't really need to worry about breaking it. I was having trouble getting a lot of torque as I have the car on jack stands and can't quite get as much weight behind it as I'd like. Thanks! -- Joe To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/