David, If you just took the car into the shop and didn't ask what the price would be or get an estimate, well what could you expect from the highest price DeLorean shop in the US. Just look at his part prices on the web site and it will tell you something about the shop prices. Normally people brag about how much they spent on fixing the car thinking that it makes it run better and actually it doesn't. In our shop at the Rate of $60.00 / hr the parts and the labor are about 1/2 and 1/2. What could it be in another delorean shop at $100.00 / hr the cost over all may be 1/3 parts and 2/3rd's labor. But in your case it could have easily been 1/4th parts and 3/4th labor. All I have ever said is that labor doesn't make the car run better. I sell to shops all over the country that there labor rates are between 65 to 87 per hour and have worked on DeLorean's for years. Just because they have a high labor rate doesn't make the shop better, it just means that have a higher over head and have to charge more. I have a lower over head so my parts cost is lower for the same Bosch relay or the same Valeo clutch and more sensitive parts that can rust easy are stored inside a humid controlled room. Some people when buying parts just want or need to pay higher for some reason thinking it is going to get them something other than the part they bought. I guess it makes them feel better. So my point is, it's hard to criticize D1 for what they charge to do the job if there wasn't a quote or estimate ahead of time. In Texas if you don't have a estimate up front on the parts and labor to do the job and you go to pick up the car and its way over the estimate, then you have a leg to stand on. But with out a signed quote you're stuck. I know about one DeLorean owner in Texas that went to a DeLorean shop in Texas to get an exhaust leak fixed and he was quoted over $3,000.00. So disgusted with the company and parts cost he sold the car and the man that bought it called me and bought the exhaust kit for both sides for $78.00 dollars and fixed it. John Hervey www.specialtauto.com www.deloreanautoparts.com -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of daviddlasvegas Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 12:45 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] My DMC is a financial hole - what should I do at this point Hi all. Just got finished with my last DMC fiasco and wanted some advice... I bought a 1981 with 12,000 miles on it for $14,000 (I know now that the millages is obviously wrong) from the cars second owner. The car was advertised as "excellent condition" etc. I took it for a test drive and bought it. Well, to make a long story short within 2 months I had to pay Delorean One Motors of Los Angeles, CA almost $20,000 for repairs. The car was a chop job and all the major systems and components had to be replaced. I've just spent another $3,000 in repairs for more things that popped up and now I have a fuel system issue. I haven't even begun to refurb the interior (I want to replace the seats and carpet). I don't see the car as a financial investment; I just love and enjoy owning and driving it. I'm just sick of every day a new problem popping up and don't know when to call it quits as far as putting money in it. To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/