My car, #10715, still has the R-12 system in it as well, but the A/C cycles about once every 2-3 seconds. Just an estimate, but does this mean it's almost empty? I actually don't have a pressure gauge on hand to measure it. It's hardly noticeable with the A/C set on max in the car so I'm guessing it's almost gone. Also, how does Freeze-12 compare in pricing to the 134-A refrigerant and is it only sold online? When I was in MI, 134 went for around 8 bucks a can, so that wasn't bad. Some of the OH/MI owners and I were sorta discussing this back in May. I need to do something because the Missouri heat is just killing me in that car! *dies* -Johnny Weston, MO PS: Does that use the same hookups on the compressor as the R-12? To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/